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Etiquette Q For Kidmos: Are Siblings Implicitly Invited To Kids B-Day Parties?
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:15 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator does this depend on the location? what other variables?
another kid in son's prek class is having a bday party on a sunday afternoon. they presumably invited the whole class, which is required. party is at a kids' facility where presumably the parents have to either pay per kid, or pay a flat fee but have a limit on the number of the kids.
i dont expect them to pay for shit for everyone's other siblings, but i'm not sure what the protocol is. if we have to split up the family on a sunday, we probably just wouldnt go. |
Date: February 11th, 2026 1:17 PM Author: Cordovan Heaven Ask if you can bring the sibling and offer to pay for the sibling. 80% of the time they say its ok and you don’t have to pay. Sometimes the number of kids is capped and you have to pay for that sibling.
You should ask though. This happens all the time. |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:18 PM Author: Wonderful space friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663321) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:23 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator is asking this q rude in the first place bc theyre not gonna actually ask you to pay.
if i were on the other side, i wouldnt actually ask the parent to pay but i'd be annoyed at having to pay. hell, we probably just would have a bday party not at some goyishe place. |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:50 PM Author: Cordovan Heaven You def should ask. It’s rude to just show up with a sibling without asking. Not a huge deal, but still a little rude IMO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663435) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:56 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator def wouldnt show up without asking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663456) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 9:50 AM Author: Vivacious crackhouse toilet seat /thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49665352) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:20 PM Author: Idiotic son of senegal You can ask, but default assumption is NO if it's at some place they're paying for. Why not go do something fun with the other sibling? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663325) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:22 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator because of shabbat, sunday is our only chance for a "family day out" -- it's nice to do things together as a family (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663334) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:43 PM Author: Overrated box office all that shit is so fucking retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663409) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:45 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator hows it different than a goyishe family who spends their saturdays taking different kids to sportsdoing.
i cant imagine jews are the only ones who like to stick together as a family at least sometimes. |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:48 PM Author: Overrated box office having kids doing activities that benefit them vs. being forced to sit at home eating shitty desert food with the lights off? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663429) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:57 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator low iq schtick? the lights can stay on. they just cant be turned off.
they spend shabbat going to shul and playing with their friends. they love it. |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 2:07 PM Author: Overrated box office lol you ppl are retarded. God doesn't give a fuck if you turn the lights on or off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663489) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 2:20 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator actually, he does (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663537) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 11:27 AM Author: floppy kitty useless brakes srs q: why do you believe in this shit? at least christians have their “apologetics” to lend the whole thing a veneer of respectability, but wtf do yids have to go on? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49665656) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 8:34 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator i'm jewish, like it or not. god chose us. we don't get to choose or not choose it, like christianity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49667217) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 9:16 PM Author: Walnut cowardly selfie God bless you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49667294) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 9:26 PM Author: floppy kitty useless brakes the question is why you believe that “god chose you”
and lol at the suggestion that being ethnically jewish somehow forces you into religion, as if there aren’t a billion jewish atheists |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 2:46 PM Author: Soggy indigo yarmulke area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663604) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 10:58 PM Author: beta senate lol at HIM being the one who is low IQ and YOU being the one who has your lights on for 24 hours (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49664782) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 5:47 AM Author: Orchid partner coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49665160) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 9:09 AM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator Are you so poor that keeping a dining room light on for 24 hours is a big deal?l for you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49665287) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 5:08 PM Author: Overrated box office if you have lights with automatic timers that you set in advance can you successfully fool God? Or is that a no no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49666586) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 5:14 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator totally fine to trick God that way.
but from a technical standpoint, it's expensive and a hassle to install a bunch of hard-wired timer switches for wall switches in your house.
for a plug in lamp, it's easy to use a timer.
btw big picture, it's easier just to avoid as many timers as possible. the last minute scramble before shabbos starts is stressful, and having to set up timers is one more thing. easy to screw up and have them either not go on or on for the wrong hours, so easier just to leave them on.
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:50 PM Author: vigorous coiffed shitlib step-uncle's house can you go for a walk? a hike? a bike ride? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663436) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:58 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator what im saying is that the goyim are probably thingdoing on saturday and splitting up the family since youth sports are generally saturday not sunday, so sunday is the only family day even for goyim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663459) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:54 PM Author: Bateful drab plaza toaster one parent take the kid the party if the kid actually wants to go, other parent does something else with the other kid, switch parents who go to birthday parties.
Don't make the entire family show up to some kids birthday party.
That's not actually a 'nice thing' to do as a family.
Actually having one on one time with just one of the kids is nice, appreciate the chance to get to do that. |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 2:12 PM Author: Honey-headed orchestra pit lol going to a classmate's birthday party is not a "family activity." Showing up as an entire family is weird and yeah probably rude. Let your kid have time with his friends without siblings. It's good for him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663512) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 5:03 PM Author: Walnut cowardly selfie You can make an exception for one day. Let the siblings have fun apart from each other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49666575) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 5:05 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator if we went to all these birthday parties, it would be a lot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49666577) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 5:29 PM Author: Walnut cowardly selfie Then don't go but don't bring 2 parents and another kid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49666667) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 8:34 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator when did i say i was gonna bring an extra kid unannounced (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49667218) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:22 PM Author: Honey-headed orchestra pit Siblings are not invited unless explicitly listed. Inviting the whole class might be 20 kids (which at many venues is already expensive). Add in siblings and it's a fortune.
Commercial venue it's a hard no. Home party you could maybe ask, especially if your kid is too young to drop off and you don't have coverage at home. If it's a play place just pay for your kid to separately do their own thing while you keep an eye on them and you are nearby if your other kid needs anything at the party. Never presume and try not to put pressure on the host to accommodate you if you can avoid it. |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:26 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator this is good scholarship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663348) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:37 PM Author: passionate self-centered clown dad etiquette pumo tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663384) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:52 PM Author: Cordovan Heaven People being siblings all the time. We brought sibling to maybe 25-33% of parties and the same amount were generally brought to our kids’ parties. Everyone who brought a sibling to our kids’ asked us beforehand.
Edit: def no for drop off parties |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 2:05 PM Author: Honey-headed orchestra pit Right but you got permission ahead of time. I think you still have to be careful b/c they pay per person. If my venue includes 20 kids and only 15 can come, yeah I will be more welcoming of siblings. If it's 10 kids and every one after that costs $20, that makes it tougher.
I agree def not for drop-off parties and it shouldn't be necessary. It's only an issue when you HAVE to have the sibling with you. But you should do your best to not put the host in that position. |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:35 PM Author: vigorous coiffed shitlib step-uncle's house for a home party, when kids are young enough that parents are staying, siblings are expected and normal.
if it's a drop off party (home or commercial setting), then no siblings.
if it's a commercial spot and parents are staying, i would expect younger siblings to stay and join. for example, if the party is for 5 year olds, i'd expect some parents to bring 3 year old siblings and would probably explicitly invite them.
edit: for younger kids, i look at birthday parties as an event where you invite a family rather than just the kid. |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:44 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator >if it's a commercial spot and parents are staying, i would expect younger siblings to stay and join. for example, if the party is for 5 year olds, i'd expect some parents to bring 3 year old siblings and would probably explicitly invite them.
but there's no explicit invite to siblings. |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:51 PM Author: vigorous coiffed shitlib step-uncle's house i would bring the non-invited sibling if he/she is younger. if older, either split up or take sibling and have them do their own thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663439) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 2:07 PM Author: Honey-headed orchestra pit If it's a commercial place you are usually paying per kid. It's pretty rude to presume you can just bring yours. There's a lot of variables here. Some are places where they are open to the public and you can just pay for the sibling yourself and that's fine (though you should not eat food at the party b/c they budgeted for a specific amount of people). Some places are closed to the public and exclusively for parties. That forces the host to pay for your kid and is inconsiderate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663494) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:46 PM Author: Comical national security agency doctorate no wtf. do jews not teach any manners at home? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663423) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 1:59 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator i have manners. that's why i asked this Q.
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Date: February 11th, 2026 2:09 PM Author: Overrated box office if it's just a random from their class you don't know then the answer obviously is no by default. you could ask them really nicely but it's not expected to just roll deep with 3 extra kids in tow without a heads up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663503) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 2:45 PM Author: boyish insanely creepy stag film filthpig For ages where you invite whole class, a prestigious host will explicitly invite siblings so you don’t have to worry. To do otherwise implies that $20 is a lot of money to you, that you are trying to feed a bunch of kids on two pizzas and a single tray of cupcakes, and that you have failed to procure an entire suitable venue and are getting by on a limited capacity room in some prole shitvenue.
If you’ve been invited to that second type of party, just reply “unsubscribe” and teach your child the importance of affiliating with the right kind of people. Also consider moving or changing schools. |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 2:50 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator the school requires the whole class be invited, or all of the class of the same gender, if inviting at least 1 kid from the class.
we're in are country |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 3:01 PM Author: boyish insanely creepy stag film filthpig Yeah that’s a good policy for young ages. But if you’re already inviting aspies and fat kids then you should also accommodate siblings within reason (obviously you can’t drop off a toddler at a middle-school party or vice versa). Once you get to the age with a curated guest list then you invite the family if you know everyone or the specific child if not and it’s clear. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49663640) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 3:02 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator actually, the the school is thru 8th grade and the policy applies to all grades afaik.
i still think it's a good policy even for older kids and it's nice. |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 5:42 PM Author: Overrated box office kid should be picking his friends to invite well before 8th grade (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49664056) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 5:44 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator it's a small school and classes are 10-15 kids per grade. divide by half, and you've got 5-8 kids of each gender in each class. why not force them to invite everyone and create a nice atmosphere? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49664065) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 5:49 PM Author: Overrated box office my wife went to school like that and she wound up a weird sheltered dumbfuck because of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49664075) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 3:03 PM Author: odious puce lettuce telephone home / public space party: yes
Playspace party: feel free to bring them but be prepared to pay out of pocket |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 5:08 PM Author: nubile theater stage incel This thread is violence. In communities of color, the party lasts for hours with a vague start and end time, and the whole family is implicitly invited.
In the culutre of the oppressor, only the specifically invited guests can come (i.e., the classmates, and maybe a couple friends of the birthday boy/girl's siblings, if he/she has siblings). It's rude to even ask about bringing one of your other kids, unless (a) it's an infant, who won't even really do the gymnastics or arcade games or whatever or (b) the party is at a public park and it's nbd if some siblings come and also play on the playground or whatever. |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 5:14 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator rofl. so true.
even in your (b), it still might NOT be nbd some siblings will have a slice of your precious pizza. |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 5:20 PM Author: boyish insanely creepy stag film filthpig I mean we had extra pizza because the parents are all on Ozempic and the kids all wanted cake more, but WHAT IF WE RAN OUT! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49664005) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 5:32 PM Author: nubile theater stage incel In (b) your other kids can come play in the park, but you need to provision them. They can't get any of the pizza, juice boxes, or cake, until the actual invited guests are done. And they better not even think about taking a goody bag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49664036) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 5:40 PM Author: Overrated box office interesting facet of this - the school birthdays where they invite the entire class, it's always the white kids and only the white kids who show up. every single time. observed this for years now. multiple classes over multiple years with different groups of kids and it's always the same deal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49664049) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 5:46 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator facilities charging $$ for kids to play are white spaces. das racis to even have a party at these places and expect minorities to feel comfortable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49664070) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 5:52 PM Author: Overrated box office this is all sorts of venues including house parties at crappy old houses and townhouses and shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49664083) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 5:59 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator dat too much gas money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49664098) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 8:54 PM Author: Overrated box office I think it’s a cultural thing. They don’t care about the kids making friends at school or being part of the community. They probably just do family and their immediate inner circle for these things instead of randoms who happen to be in their kids class. There’s a point to be made for both but it clearly aligns with how minorities choose to live their lives in this country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49664433) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 9:00 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator tbf, there's something deeply wrong with the white american way of life where your school class is just some randoms.
in the ortho jew world, ur kid's classmates are likely kids who live in the same neighborhood and go to your same shul and you play with after schools and on shabbat.
the soullessness of white american k-12 is why whites have so many social problems |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 6:23 AM Author: Overrated box office low iq schtick? of course white kids from the same neighborhood go to the same schools and they actually get to organically make friends with people they have things in common with instead of having their entire lives centered around some demented cult forced on them by their nutjob parents.
and there's something deeply wrong with telling your kid they can't do anything on a Saturday. Ever. Kid wants to join a lacrosse team that has games on Saturdays? nope dingfag, you have to sit on your ass and eat shitty ethnic food every single week. the community aspects of religion are great and all but you can have that without being psycho cultists. |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 8:40 AM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator ROFL, Jews don’t play lacrosse, my man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49665259) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 9:15 AM Author: Overrated box office there's someone on this board who played for a european national team that would like a word with you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49665296) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 9:19 AM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49665301) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 10:16 AM Author: Pale Talented Mediation Factory Reset Button Hilarious subthread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49665404) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 11:33 AM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49665669) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 11:02 PM Author: beta senate Prole tell: sending your kid to a school with non-whites. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49664798) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 5:15 AM Author: Overrated box office harder to find these days. It was 90%+ 25 years ago, now it’s more like 65% at best. Private schools are no different because they now give financial aid to minorities like candy, plus you have azns jews and turds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49665153) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 5:16 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator this is a surprisingly SOLID thread. real advice containing a range of reasonable opinions written in an intelligent manner. this feels like xo of yore.
perhaps bc we've never done this thread, it's interesting to people. |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 5:59 PM Author: Irradiated blathering station Lol oh how interesting. Why are you having your kids consort with goyim chattel anyway (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49664093) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 6:00 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator i'd rather not go. kids wont be able to eat the food anyway (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49664100) |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 6:47 PM Author: Soul-stirring round eye spot fucking amazing how this LITERAL and PROFESSED pedophile can jack himself off over such a retarded fucking question
jew kids are fucked btw |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 5:56 PM Author: Dashing Sneaky Criminal If it’s in a facility, no siblings
If it’s a park, nbd but you have to only take a leftover goodie bag if any |
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Date: February 11th, 2026 11:13 PM Author: beta senate Seems to have gotten to the right place here.
Based on NYC where parties at kid gyms are $50 per kid or so:
1. Kid gym/paid facility - drop off - siblings definitely not invited and don’t ask. 2. Same as 1 but parents stay - siblings are welcome if they’re young enough that they can’t participate in the activity and won’t throw a fit that they’re not “part of the party.” 3. Home party follows the same rules as 1-2, but if parents are staying you can say “we’d love to make it but I can’t because of childcare for little sibling.” The host should then offer to let you bring the little sibling. If it’s at a public place like a park, you are OK just straight up asking if siblings are invited. If they’re not the people are sociopaths and you shouldn’t go. 4. If you bring a second kid, bring a small second gift. Like a coloring book or something 5. Don’t waste your time having both parents at a birthday party. You and wife should split up for this and alternate. It’s a rare opportunity to have solo time for one parent and it’s not that hard to watch a little one when there are tons of other kids and parents around. 6. Once you get to 1st grade or so and everyone has been through this, parents will stop being retarded and tell you if it’s drop off etc. in the invite. |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 9:10 AM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator This is some scholarship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49665288) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 5:02 PM Author: Walnut cowardly selfie I don't think so unless they are really close family friends or relatives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49666570) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 5:50 PM Author: salmon heady menage bbw "How do I extract more resources politely?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49666761) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 5:58 PM Author: racy insane theatre masturbator we cant/wont eat their food. neither wife nor i want to go; we'll only go if our son actually is gonna throw a fit if he doesnt go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49666810) |
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Date: February 12th, 2026 8:08 PM Author: Walnut cowardly selfie The most 180 thing was when my dotter was old enough to go to these parties by herself and I could drop her off and go to the office track betting parlor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5833643&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49667167) |