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Do you guys remember that 9th Cir argument about fees? (epah)
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:45 PM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king We won today. They said I'm basically like Clarence Darrow and Gerry Spence, so we should get biglol fees at a minimum.
Edit: This is a community account btw, and I want to express my gratitude to the account owner who's letting me use it for the day. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 5:13 PM Author: ivory hospital get a real job you old as fuck mormon weirdo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692383) |
Date: February 24th, 2026 1:48 PM Author: Jade Vivacious Hominid congrats ballpark the windfall for us |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:51 PM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king Not all that much. Maybe end up with $4-5M in fees on remand. But we have another case behind it where we're 8,000 hours in, so it'll be good for that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49691809) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:53 PM Author: Jade Vivacious Hominid nice, it all adds up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49691822) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 5:09 PM Author: Razzmatazz institution rigpig 4 million here, 4 million there, soon you're talking real money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692369) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 5:04 AM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king CSLG makes that much per month, and he went to TTTexas. But whatever it’s fine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49693719) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:50 PM Author: grizzly galvanic step-uncle's house nice job dude. we need to hang out when I’m in Hawaii later this year (libpumo) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49691804) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:51 PM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king Ty. I know a great spot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49691816) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:58 PM Author: grizzly galvanic step-uncle's house nice bro. we can tag team my wife too if you want. she’s white but loves successful litigators. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49691853) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 4:58 PM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king Perfect! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692339) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:56 PM Author: bull headed racy multi-billionaire 180 lawyering (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49691847) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:57 PM Author: Olive Police Squad Circlehead Not a lawfag what happened (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49691852) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 2:00 PM Author: chocolate public bath fanboi Poasters made millions and billions chasing commas all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49691861) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 2:27 PM Author: Fantasy-prone sweet tailpipe school 🤙 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49691971) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 2:42 PM Author: Histrionic Coral Crotch Chad Congrats! What was the other side's argument? That small firm lawyers should get fees adjusted downward accordingly?
Did you have instances of clients paying you hourly rates (not contingency) similar to biglaw to show that the market says you're worth it? |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 3:01 PM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king Yeah that was the argument of both the other side and the dc judge. But CA9 was like, nah this guy is like Darrow and Spence.
As to the second question … *sucks teeth* THATS IRRELEVANT!! |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 3:05 PM Author: Histrionic Coral Crotch Chad ljl 180
Did the other side make that second point--anyone can say they're worth biglaw rates. But if clients' aren't hiring you at biglaw rates, you ain't actually worth biglaw rates? What did 9th C say about that? |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 3:38 PM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king There’s already plenty of CA9 precedent (implied by SCOTUS’s opinion in 1988 fees cases) holding that the actual rates charged aren’t relevant. I don’t think it even came up again in the appellate stage of this case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692135) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 5:22 PM Author: Histrionic Coral Crotch Chad Whoa. What's the reasoning? Example citation? "Actual fees charged aren't relevant" sounds like huge legal reasoning fraudlies. I'd think that would be highly relevant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692407) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 8:34 PM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king Does your Westlaw have the AI plug-in? Just ask it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692836) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 9:39 AM Author: Histrionic Coral Crotch Chad I'm an in house mo. I haven't been on Westlaw in years. I'm not sure we even have access. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49693951) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 2:44 PM Author: Aphrodisiac principal's office roast beef gj but I don't even see how there's room for debate on this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692018) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 3:40 PM Author: Provocative disrespectful bawdyhouse What was your 180 line where you elegantly lisped something like "With all due respect, I basically am the Gerry Spence of Class Action Antitrust Litigation" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692142) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 4:00 PM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king The laugh line was more me fumbling and lisping about how I hate to be immodest, but; and then Judge Mendoza saying, “you’re great, we get it.”
My preferred lisping line was one I borrowed from Trump, saying that it makes no sense to award lower rates to us than to “parters at big law firms who no one has ever heard of; no one has ever even heard their name.” |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 5:23 PM Author: Histrionic Coral Crotch Chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692410) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 7:34 PM Author: Provocative disrespectful bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692690) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 7:36 PM Author: Learning Disabled Comical Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692702) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 8:26 PM Author: hot sable milk hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692819) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 1:18 PM Author: know-it-all reading party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49694445) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 1:37 PM Author: chocolate public bath fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49696984) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 4:03 PM Author: well-lubricated salmon boiling water you fucked up your family, and now you’ll keep trying to fuck up American society
yuge win |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:10 PM Author: Learning Disabled Comical Den Nah fam you gotta separate the art from the artist. EPAH obviously mutilated his children and maimed them for life but he is a great attorney and a good friend. Let's give credit where credit is due. He's a 180 inspiring lawyer. You don't even know enough about law to know how 180 EPAH is at law my dude. To put it in terms your feeble mind might understand he's like the Payton Pritchard of 9th circuit appellate lawmos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692523) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:22 PM Author: marvelous cruel-hearted native He got gaped on a case he never should have brought because he didn't know what "taxes" were (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692554) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:24 PM Author: Learning Disabled Comical Den Who did? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692558) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 7:18 PM Author: marvelous cruel-hearted native EPAH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692646) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 8:35 PM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king ? Just two Tuesdays ago the court ordered $11.8M to be wired from the court's registry to us. Check out the last entry on the docket. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692841) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 1:38 PM Author: chocolate public bath fanboi (Swisha in-house counsel) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49696990) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 5:48 AM Author: well-lubricated salmon boiling water I know enough about shitlibs and the American legal system to know that both need to be burnt to the ground so that we can have a great country (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49693729) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 4:05 PM Author: beady-eyed bonkers codepig EPAH cant lose
hth |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 5:07 PM Author: kink-friendly boistinker heaven Big congrats man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692368) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 5:10 PM Author: Razzmatazz institution rigpig He's a good dood and good lawyer judging by the oral arguments I heard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692372) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 5:13 PM Author: beady-eyed bonkers codepig the only down side is that horrible voice of his
sounds like a squeaky dweeb |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:05 PM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king That’s just the courtroom audio. Rich baritone IRL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692514) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 9:38 AM Author: Histrionic Coral Crotch Chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49693947) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 10:04 AM Author: Gaped generalized bond senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49694004) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 10:51 AM Author: Beta green box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49694090) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:06 PM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king Ty. I’m set to PWN some dweebs from Orrick in May. I’ll post the link as it gets closer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692517) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 7:34 PM Author: kink-friendly boistinker heaven OUT the lead lawyer from Orrick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692691) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 5:05 AM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king I’ve honestly forgotten his name. Let’s just say no one has ever heard of him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49693720) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:10 PM Author: hairless juggernaut Congrats friend. What do you make in a typical year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692524) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:15 PM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king It’s probably averaged around a million over time. But aside from an ex wife and some kids at full-rack tuition, I don’t spend very much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692538) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 7:20 PM Author: Razzmatazz institution rigpig That'd buy a lot of WOC pussy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692653) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:00 PM Author: hairless juggernaut Sweet. I’m hoping to make around $1m next year. This years comp will be $625k. I’m trying to stack as much as possible in case my practice implodes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692908) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:55 PM Author: Balding indian lodge therapy And how many hours you billing these days? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49693119) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 5:07 AM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king Still probably 2,000. I’ve got only one kid still at home, no wife, and I like to do work. And to post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49693721) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 9:40 AM Author: Histrionic Coral Crotch Chad 2000 hours is about 1000 hours too much. What's the point of having your own firm and stacking cash for years if you still grind 2000 hours of discovery motions or whatever? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49693953) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 8:14 PM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king I like PWNing people. I guess I could try that here, but biglol drones are easier to PWN than true masters of argument like TDNW and TBF. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49695434) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 1:39 PM Author: chocolate public bath fanboi He genuinely likes doing it. He actually kept timesheets in his squabble with ZZZ. The law rewards the autists. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49697000) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:10 PM Author: filthy blood rage nursing home 9th Cir. news at 11: birds are fees (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692526) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 8:23 PM Author: deep rambunctious state Did you talk to Bloomberg before or after posting this? Anyway, congrats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692813) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 8:36 PM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king Lol, all these people emailing me for "comment" during the middle of a celebratory posting spree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692845) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 8:50 PM Author: Sadistic Stead Affirmative Action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692878) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 8:58 PM Author: Learning Disabled Comical Den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692905) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:10 PM Author: hot sable milk hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692939) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:24 PM Author: deep rambunctious state Fourth and Fifth Estates in the fights of their lives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49692975) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:37 PM Author: bull headed racy multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49693027) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 9:41 AM Author: Histrionic Coral Crotch Chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49693957) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 10:04 AM Author: Gaped generalized bond senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49694005) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 1:20 PM Author: Avocado trip newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49694452) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 1:46 PM Author: filthy blood rage nursing home (third-quartile litigator) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49697036) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 3:19 PM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king Our fees guy says the third quartile rate in LA is now $1,615. Our dc judge is gonna be so mad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49697312) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 3:20 PM Author: Learning Disabled Comical Den Do you tip your fees guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49697318) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 3:21 PM Author: Charismatic stage philosopher-king We pay him the 3rd quartile rate if that’s what you mean (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49697324) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 3:28 PM Author: Learning Disabled Comical Den I was thinking about it in the context of whether you tip your sneaker man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49697340) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 4:00 PM Author: Provocative disrespectful bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310908#49697434) |