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At what point do you kill your family dog?

I have an 11 yo dog and 2 young kids who are quite fond of h...
silver stimulating really tough guy sex offender
  12/01/25
I would pay for the surgery but you absolutely should see if...
chartreuse theater twinkling uncleanness
  12/01/25
https://www.nahf.org/article/tracheal-collapse-dog-surgery-c...
chartreuse theater twinkling uncleanness
  12/01/25
Yeah everything’s insanely inflated where I am. Gettin...
silver stimulating really tough guy sex offender
  12/01/25
Do you live around NYC? If so then I can recommend a place....
chartreuse theater twinkling uncleanness
  12/01/25
Nah unfortunately. I like the idea of vet schools. I think w...
silver stimulating really tough guy sex offender
  12/01/25
Good luck.
chartreuse theater twinkling uncleanness
  12/01/25
I would pay for the surgery but if you are legit broke then ...
wild background story
  12/01/25
check if vet is owned by MARS chocolate before proceeding
narrow-minded rose spot
  12/01/25
if you have pet insurance get the surgery no question. if yo...
amber fighting cruise ship
  12/01/25
No pet insurance. I’ll shop around and see if we can g...
silver stimulating really tough guy sex offender
  12/01/25
unfortunately they probably won't cover this if you don't al...
amber fighting cruise ship
  12/01/25
tbf, how does an insurer find "vet records" that y...
boyish up-to-no-good new version
  12/01/25
bro idk ok fine you have found the loophole around preexisti...
amber fighting cruise ship
  12/01/25
It’s much harder for human pre existing conditions to ...
boyish up-to-no-good new version
  12/01/25
How to keep quiet about the years of records the insurance c...
glittery indian lodge
  12/01/25
Years of records? Most people never go the vet. We go to a w...
boyish up-to-no-good new version
  12/01/25
are you mentally retarded
Razzle tan hall toilet seat
  12/01/25
Show your work. I’ve shown mine If some vet tomorro...
boyish up-to-no-good new version
  12/01/25
how about this. go get your dog insurance this afternoon and...
Razzle tan hall toilet seat
  12/01/25
Wait 6 months
boyish up-to-no-good new version
  12/01/25
loled out loud at this. jews are so 180 and smart
Razzle tan hall toilet seat
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Can you drive dog to rural vet or a vet school? Vet schools ...
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  12/01/25
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chartreuse theater twinkling uncleanness
  12/01/25
I don't know anything about pet insurance, but i'm litigatin...
heady azure space
  12/01/25
Drive 10 hours to a vet in ARE country and pay $2000 for the...
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  12/01/25
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  12/01/25
i couldn't spend that type of money on a dog in good conscio...
Supple public bath
  12/01/25
I would drop $10k on my dog for medical care without hesitat...
chartreuse theater twinkling uncleanness
  12/01/25
cut your losses. spend 300 on adoption fees for a new dog a...
grizzly parlour
  12/01/25
Very hard to adopt a dog that isn’t a shitpit mix, esp...
boyish up-to-no-good new version
  12/01/25
I've noticed this. I can't say I spent a ton of time brow...
Walnut galvanic corner
  12/02/25
when you're hungry
avocado sanctuary
  12/01/25
That’s always tough and there’s no right answer....
Marvelous old irish cottage
  12/01/25
just let it run away and the spca will pick it up and have s...
big principal's office
  12/01/25
when the wok is at a rolling boil
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I'd try to find a better price because that quote seems insa...
Curious school cafeteria associate
  12/01/25
i'd spend whatever it takes, but this is some goyishe math. ...
boyish up-to-no-good new version
  12/01/25
There’s ways the dog can make it up to you after the s...
Wonderful Elastic Band Rigor
  12/01/25
Hey mig, you murdered your dog bc he annoyed you. Thoughts h...
transparent french blood rage legal warrant
  12/02/25
my extended family did the dog surgery/chemo stuff once and ...
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  12/02/25
i do it in the first year, before anyone gets too attached.
umber field
  12/02/25
Update: Got a second opinion from a country vet an hour away...
silver stimulating really tough guy sex offender
  12/04/25
180
boyish up-to-no-good new version
  12/04/25
180 fuck those vet scammers
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  12/04/25
180
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180. This is why you get second opinions. Also, never use ...
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Date: December 1st, 2025 1:59 PM
Author: silver stimulating really tough guy sex offender

I have an 11 yo dog and 2 young kids who are quite fond of her. Unfortunately, she has a collapsing trachea, which will progressively worsen until it suffocates her to death. Could be months, could be years. In the meantime, I can pay $5,000 for a tracheal surgery which could more or less “cure” the issue but even then she’s looking at maybe 5 years tops. I’m also Poor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474553)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:00 PM
Author: chartreuse theater twinkling uncleanness

I would pay for the surgery but you absolutely should see if the vet is ripping you off. Get a few other second opinions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474558)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:05 PM
Author: chartreuse theater twinkling uncleanness

https://www.nahf.org/article/tracheal-collapse-dog-surgery-cost



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474580)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: silver stimulating really tough guy sex offender

Yeah everything’s insanely inflated where I am. Getting multiple opinions though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474589)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:09 PM
Author: chartreuse theater twinkling uncleanness

Do you live around NYC? If so then I can recommend a place.

If not, I recommend some veterinary schools. They may be cheaper, especially if you allow them to work with students on the dog (it would be supervised by faculty).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474597)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:19 PM
Author: silver stimulating really tough guy sex offender

Nah unfortunately. I like the idea of vet schools. I think we have a couple nearby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474630)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:43 PM
Author: chartreuse theater twinkling uncleanness

Good luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474905)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:02 PM
Author: wild background story

I would pay for the surgery but if you are legit broke then don’t do it, just put the dog to sleep when it’s time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474569)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: narrow-minded rose spot

check if vet is owned by MARS chocolate before proceeding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474573)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: amber fighting cruise ship

if you have pet insurance get the surgery no question. if you don't and really can't afford the $5k, it might old yeller time...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474577)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:06 PM
Author: silver stimulating really tough guy sex offender

No pet insurance. I’ll shop around and see if we can get it cheaper. It’s hard to kill something over money. Obviously there’s a threshold but WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474583)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: amber fighting cruise ship

unfortunately they probably won't cover this if you don't already have insurance. your vet records will show that the tests for this condition predate the policy. still try though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474588)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:09 PM
Author: boyish up-to-no-good new version

tbf, how does an insurer find "vet records" that you dont show them?

is there some national database of vet records?

one weird trick: cant op just get insurance now and keep quiet about any vet records in existence and let do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474598)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:14 PM
Author: amber fighting cruise ship

bro idk ok fine you have found the loophole around preexisting conditions the insurance conundrum is solved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474614)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: boyish up-to-no-good new version

It’s much harder for human pre existing conditions to be hidden because most people are not just going to random doctors but having their claims submitted to major national insurance companies so there’s essentially a national database of your medical record through insurance claims.

For dogs its not the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474674)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: glittery indian lodge

How to keep quiet about the years of records the insurance company will demand to see as a condition of coverage and will scour for any sign of breathing issues?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474642)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: boyish up-to-no-good new version

Years of records? Most people never go the vet. We go to a walk in clinic for shots and I have those records. There’s no records of annual checkups or blood work or anything that would document any physical condition our dog has.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474668)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Razzle tan hall toilet seat

are you mentally retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474676)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: boyish up-to-no-good new version

Show your work. I’ve shown mine

If some vet tomorrow said my dog had a major problem, I’d never mention that visit. I’d simply show the insurance company the records of the walk in clinics where we’ve gotten vaccines over the last few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474692)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Razzle tan hall toilet seat

how about this. go get your dog insurance this afternoon and report a collapsing trachea to them tomorrow, even if its a lie. lets see what unfolds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474756)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:31 PM
Author: boyish up-to-no-good new version

Wait 6 months

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474854)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:27 PM
Author: Razzle tan hall toilet seat

loled out loud at this. jews are so 180 and smart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474658)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: glittery indian lodge

Can you drive dog to rural vet or a vet school? Vet schools often have discounted rates so vet students can learn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474609)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:14 PM
Author: chartreuse theater twinkling uncleanness



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: heady azure space

I don't know anything about pet insurance, but i'm litigating a case against a state insurance regulator and got a bunch of their internal emails, and they absolutely RIP on pet insurance. They use it as a shorthand for a scammy worthless product.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474913)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:10 PM
Author: glittery indian lodge

Drive 10 hours to a vet in ARE country and pay $2000 for the surgery instead. Otherwise put down the dog if it looks very uncomfortable all the time. This should be a high bar, though.. Dogs are very resilient and adapt to most shit that life brings them. *takes gun out of mouth* we can learn a lot from them, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474599)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: seedy cobalt dingle berry lettuce



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: Supple public bath

i couldn't spend that type of money on a dog in good conscious. my ex (a vet) and i got in a big fight over this. it seems extraordinarily selfish consider $5k could make a lot of other pets (and humans) lives much better.

with kids you could mentally frame it as paying for their happiness but if youre poor your money is better spent elsewhere imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474611)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:15 PM
Author: chartreuse theater twinkling uncleanness

I would drop $10k on my dog for medical care without hesitation. That said, my last dog (a giant dog too) beat cancer twice, was a diabetic, lived to 13 and all of her care combined was under $10k. I never spent $5k on any single thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474617)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:16 PM
Author: grizzly parlour

cut your losses. spend 300 on adoption fees for a new dog and think about how excited your kids will be about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474621)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: boyish up-to-no-good new version

Very hard to adopt a dog that isn’t a shitpit mix, especially in an expensive area like where OP seems to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474679)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:04 AM
Author: Walnut galvanic corner

I've noticed this.

I can't say I spent a ton of time browsing dog adoption ads years ago, but it can't always have been like this.

I look at what the nearest shelter has and the vast majority are shitpits and the remainder are kinda sad looking, not particularly cute dogs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49476314)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:17 PM
Author: avocado sanctuary

when you're hungry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474626)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: Marvelous old irish cottage

That’s always tough and there’s no right answer. My last dog didn’t make it quite to 11 and went pretty quick, natural time for the breed. But I told myself if it ever looked like he was suffering I’d take him out for all the cheeseburgers he could eat and then give him a lethal dose of meds and sit there with him till he was gone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474690)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: big principal's office

just let it run away and the spca will pick it up and have some shitlib couple pay for the surgery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474693)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: orchid elite hairy legs

when the wok is at a rolling boil

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49474698)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: passionate shrine



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:56 PM
Author: Tantric vivacious idea he suggested community account



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:45 PM
Author: Floppy Hissy Fit



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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:34 PM
Author: boyish up-to-no-good new version



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: umber field

rorring boir

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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:52 PM
Author: out-of-control therapy pit

PAGING metaphysics is gay the poaster

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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:10 AM
Author: transparent french blood rage legal warrant



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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:28 PM
Author: Curious school cafeteria associate

I'd try to find a better price because that quote seems insane but you gotta save the dog. Even at $5k, you're renting the dog for $80/month. I'm sure if you asked your kids if they'd rather skip eating out once a month or kill the dog, they'd choose the former. This is a crossroads where you can put them more on the route to becoming autoadmit sociopaths or make them more normal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49475049)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: boyish up-to-no-good new version

i'd spend whatever it takes, but this is some goyishe math. at 11, the dog may die in 2-3 yrs even with the surgery -- of something related to the condition, or of other old age shit. the surgery doesnt guarantee him living until 16 by any means. that being said, i totally agree that you've got to save the dog but shop around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49475054)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Wonderful Elastic Band Rigor

There’s ways the dog can make it up to you after the surgery. It will owe you and you can exploit that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49476042)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:10 AM
Author: transparent french blood rage legal warrant

Hey mig, you murdered your dog bc he annoyed you. Thoughts here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49476328)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Hairraiser trailer park haunted graveyard

my extended family did the dog surgery/chemo stuff once and i wouldn't do it again. yes it probably extended the life of the dog a year or something. but the dog cannot understand why it is in short term pain. it's a sad moment but i would say pick the day and end it is a compassionate OK thing to do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49476759)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: umber field

i do it in the first year, before anyone gets too attached.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49476764)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: silver stimulating really tough guy sex offender

Update: Got a second opinion from a country vet an hour away. He says NOT collapsed trachea, just borderline, but he needs heart meds. So now I have a nearly blind old dog on heart failure meds, but he should be sticking around for a while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49483765)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: boyish up-to-no-good new version

180

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Date: December 4th, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: Disrespectful yarmulke

180 fuck those vet scammers



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Date: December 4th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: Hairraiser trailer park haunted graveyard

180

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Date: December 4th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: chartreuse theater twinkling uncleanness

180. This is why you get second opinions. Also, never use the first vet again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49484590)