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Cons what the fuck is "absolute immunity?" Is that a legal concept?

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Bronze Exciting Field
  01/08/26
yes it is
crawly rigor stead
  01/08/26
Why does it exist?
Bronze Exciting Field
  01/08/26
because White people (your Betters) decided that it should
crawly rigor stead
  01/08/26
Why?
Bronze Exciting Field
  01/08/26
yes, it is
thriller gunner
  01/08/26
Why does it exist?
Bronze Exciting Field
  01/08/26
who cares
thriller gunner
  01/08/26
Anyone?
Bronze Exciting Field
  01/08/26
(Stephen Miller’s intern)
pearly alcoholic gaping
  01/08/26
Never heard of it.
plum place of business
  01/08/26
It's the immunity that applies to judges and (in certain cir...
Contagious rough-skinned heaven
  01/08/26
So judges and legislators can murder people and no one can a...
Bronze Exciting Field
  01/08/26
it applies only to acts done in the scope of the role.
odious nudist set legend
  01/08/26
Wow. So the DHS donkey who violated DHS policy doesn't enjoy...
Bronze Exciting Field
  01/08/26
i have no idea if absolute immunity applies to the MN killin...
odious nudist set legend
  01/08/26
DHS agents violating DHS policies are operating within the s...
Bronze Exciting Field
  01/08/26
that's the entire point, and the power, of absolute immunity...
odious nudist set legend
  01/08/26
Violating policy = doing your job? Wow, government employmen...
Bronze Exciting Field
  01/08/26
i'm not sure you and i are focusing on the key issue. abs...
odious nudist set legend
  01/08/26
So there are no consequences for "fucking up" if y...
Bronze Exciting Field
  01/08/26
absolute immunity is quite rare, as i understand it. qual...
odious nudist set legend
  01/08/26
I'm stupid so please bear with me: if there's a written agen...
Bronze Exciting Field
  01/08/26
that's my understanding, yes. AI is a doctrine for fuck-up s...
odious nudist set legend
  01/09/26
If he accidentally shot the driver I can see it, but this gu...
Bronze Exciting Field
  01/09/26
Shoulda listened to NSAM! https://x.com/i/status/20144947...
Bronze Exciting Field
  01/23/26
Vance on Jan. 8: "You have a official engaging in feder...
Bronze Exciting Field
  01/23/26


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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:18 PM
Author: Bronze Exciting Field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573120)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:18 PM
Author: crawly rigor stead

yes it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573122)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: Bronze Exciting Field

Why does it exist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573211)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:44 PM
Author: crawly rigor stead

because White people (your Betters) decided that it should

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573240)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: Bronze Exciting Field

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573418)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:19 PM
Author: thriller gunner

yes, it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573125)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:22 PM
Author: Bronze Exciting Field

Why does it exist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573148)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:33 PM
Author: thriller gunner

who cares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573205)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:34 PM
Author: Bronze Exciting Field

Anyone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573210)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:20 PM
Author: pearly alcoholic gaping

(Stephen Miller’s intern)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573130)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:21 PM
Author: plum place of business

Never heard of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573138)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: Contagious rough-skinned heaven

It's the immunity that applies to judges and (in certain circumstances) prosecutors and legislators.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573213)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:15 PM
Author: Bronze Exciting Field

So judges and legislators can murder people and no one can arrest them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573368)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:26 PM
Author: odious nudist set legend

it applies only to acts done in the scope of the role.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573411)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: Bronze Exciting Field

Wow. So the DHS donkey who violated DHS policy doesn't enjoy absolute immunity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573417)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:27 PM
Author: odious nudist set legend

i have no idea if absolute immunity applies to the MN killing.

in general, though, the question of whether something is in the scope does not turn on whether policy was violated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573790)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:36 PM
Author: Bronze Exciting Field

DHS agents violating DHS policies are operating within the scope of their duties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573813)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: odious nudist set legend

that's the entire point, and the power, of absolute immunity. there is no need to decide whether a judge or legislator who is following policy should get immunity.

the entire issue arises when a judge or legislator is doing their job and massively errs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573965)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:27 PM
Author: Bronze Exciting Field

Violating policy = doing your job? Wow, government employment is amazing!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573971)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:33 PM
Author: odious nudist set legend

i'm not sure you and i are focusing on the key issue.

absolute immunity becomes an issue when someone arguably fucks up. it doesn't become an issue when someone follows policy.

so if a judge makes a massively erroneous ruling but wasn't bribed, etc., then it was within the scope of the job but was outside policy -- and the judge gets absolute immunity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573986)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:34 PM
Author: Bronze Exciting Field

So there are no consequences for "fucking up" if you work for the government

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49573991)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: odious nudist set legend

absolute immunity is quite rare, as i understand it.

qualified immunity is more common, but even there it is broadly applied. cons have wanted to trim back or even decimate QI but libs have opposed that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49574651)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:38 PM
Author: Bronze Exciting Field

I'm stupid so please bear with me: if there's a written agency policy that says "don't shoot moving vehicles," but an agency official shoots into a moving a vehicle, can the agency official still claim he was acting within the scope of his duties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49574741)



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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:05 AM
Author: odious nudist set legend

that's my understanding, yes. AI is a doctrine for fuck-up situations. but if you're doing more or less the official function, even if you get it wrong, it's within the scope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49574789)



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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:15 AM
Author: Bronze Exciting Field

If he accidentally shot the driver I can see it, but this guy had extensive training and indemnifying him is a bad look for any employer. I guess I'll leave it there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49574803)



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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:37 PM
Author: Bronze Exciting Field

Shoulda listened to NSAM!

https://x.com/i/status/2014494790247924089

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49613339)



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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:43 PM
Author: Bronze Exciting Field

Vance on Jan. 8: "You have a official engaging in federal law enforcement action. That's a federal issue. That guy's protected by absolute immunity."

Vance today: "I didn't say that officers who engaged in wrongdoing would enjoy immunity. That's absurd."

https://x.com/i/status/2014472605198090693

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#49613357)