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1 in 50 women who freeze eggs go on to have a child

https://x.com/nunosempere/status/2086739783397573092?s=46
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Jet-lagged dingle berry
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Also surprising: only 16,000 women per year freeze their egg...
glittery hissy fit
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It’s like an aspirational purse
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Vibrant Red Striped Hyena
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Israel and the United States have vastly different landscape...
Jet-lagged dingle berry
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Everything about these numbers seems off.
thirsty histrionic range old irish cottage
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agreed. does that mean there are fewer surrogate pregnancies...
Mint Supple Selfie
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That's a lot worse than I would have suspected
Maniacal Vengeful Psychic Cuckoldry
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Cr. It’s a really depressing stat.
clear bateful site circlehead
  08/12/26
how so? a lot of them probably end up conceiving naturally a...
Passionate chest-beating home
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Lmao
Vibrant Red Striped Hyena
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Obviously you’re an optimist
clear bateful site circlehead
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i truly am
Passionate chest-beating home
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XO Meme come to life
clear bateful site circlehead
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egg-freezing is not a fertility strategy. it's more like a ...
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mildly autistic concupiscible locale
  08/12/26
God is real
Jet-lagged dingle berry
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its a 50-80k scam by JewMedical Complex
Jet-lagged dingle berry
  08/12/26
holy shit 180 so all these shrews are fucked!
Jet-lagged dingle berry
  08/12/26
no, that's how many end up having a child from the frozen eg...
Passionate chest-beating home
  08/13/26
right, it doesnt imply what percentage of the frozen eggs ar...
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what percentage of "nuts" actually result in a chi...
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One clinic I worked with was entering bankrupty and LOL we w...
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There is an Alabama SCOTUS case that says the frozen embryos...
glittery hissy fit
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they just pour it down a sink
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what about bros who freeze their heads like Ted Williams
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I've known many women that have frozen their eggs and not a ...
Vibrant Red Striped Hyena
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Whoa, guess we beat all the odds. Our ivf baby is 180.
thirsty histrionic range old irish cottage
  08/13/26
Did you use frozen eggs? IVF uses fresh eggs first.
Vibrant Red Striped Hyena
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Ivf is just in vitro fertilization, fresh or frozen. We used...
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I understand I was just making sure you weren't talking abou...
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Date: August 12th, 2026 5:47 PM
Author: clear bateful site circlehead

https://x.com/nunosempere/status/2086739783397573092?s=46

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Date: August 12th, 2026 5:48 PM
Author: mildly autistic concupiscible locale



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: Jet-lagged dingle berry



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: glittery hissy fit

Also surprising: only 16,000 women per year freeze their eggs. I would have guessed much more based on how much it's discussed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#50064614)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:46 PM
Author: clear bateful site circlehead

It’s like an aspirational purse

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Date: August 13th, 2026 5:30 AM
Author: Irate Razzmatazz Genital Piercing



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Date: August 13th, 2026 9:15 AM
Author: citrine foreskin mood



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Date: August 13th, 2026 10:02 AM
Author: Vibrant Red Striped Hyena



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Date: August 13th, 2026 5:36 AM
Author: Jet-lagged dingle berry

Israel and the United States have vastly different landscapes when it comes to in vitro fertilization (IVF), largely due to how the two countries view, fund, and regulate reproductive healthcare.

Because nations track IVF data by "cycles per million people" and "percentage of live births" rather than the flat percentage of all living women, here is how the two countries compare:

1. Access and Affordability

* Israel (100% Access): Israel offers the greatest per-capita access to IVF in the world. It is the only country that fully subsidizes unlimited IVF cycles through its national healthcare system. Any female citizen up to age 45 is eligible for state-funded IVF until she has up to two children with her current partner—regardless of her marital status or sexual orientation.

* United States (~25% Access): Access in the US is heavily restricted by income and insurance. A single IVF cycle often costs between $12,000 and $15,000+ out-of-pocket, and insurance mandates vary wildly by state. The American Society for Reproductive Medicine estimates that only 1 in 4 (25%) of infertile couples in the US can actually access and afford the fertility assistance they need.

2. Utilization and Outcomes

Because of this financial barrier, Israeli women consume IVF at a drastically higher rate than American women.

| Metric | Israel | United States |

|---|---|---|

| Annual IVF Cycles | ~5,000 to 5,700 per million people | ~1,200 per million people |

| Births Resulting from IVF | 4.5% to 5.8% of all births | 2% to 2.3% of all births |

(Note: US cycle estimates are based on the latest CDC data showing roughly 413,000 ART cycles initiated in 2021 for a population of ~330 million. Israel's rates have historically hovered above 5,000 per million, more than quadruple the US rate.)

Why is the gap so large?

Beyond the financial differences, Israel is a highly pronatalist society. Demographic competition, religious directives (the biblical commandment to "be fruitful and multiply"), and historical memory all drive a powerful cultural imperative to have children. While the US treats IVF largely as a private, elective medical service, Israel views subsidized reproduction as a fundamental right and a matter of national policy.

When comparing IVF between Israel and the United States, a fascinating paradox emerges: Israel has over five times the per capita access to IVF, but the United States reports a significantly higher success rate per individual cycle.

Here is the breakdown of the numbers and the cultural and financial reasons behind them.

1. Per Capita Usage (The Access Gap)

Nations track IVF access by looking at the number of cycles performed per one million inhabitants.

* Israel: Israel is by far the world leader in IVF utilization, performing roughly 5,300 to 5,711 cycles per 1 million people annually.

* United States: Despite performing a massive total volume of cycles nationwide, the US lags far behind in per capita access, performing only 922 cycles per 1 million people.

(Israel performs over five times more IVF per capita than the US.)

2. Success Rates (Live Births per Cycle)

When tracking success, the standard medical metric is the live-birth rate per cycle—how many cycles actually result in a baby being born, rather than just a positive pregnancy test.

| Metric | Israel | United States |

|---|---|---|

| Average Live-Birth Rate (All Ages) | ~14.4% – 17.2% | 37.5% |

| Live-Birth Rate (Under 35) | Data blended into national avg | 42.8% |

| Live-Birth Rate (Over 40) | ~5.2% | 10.3% – 27.7% (drops steeply past age 42) |

(Note: US data reflects the 2022 CDC National ART Summary. Israeli data reflects historical Ministry of Health and Maccabi registry tracking.)

3. The Paradox: Why are US success rates higher?

It seems counterintuitive that the country with the best access has a lower per-cycle success rate, but it comes down to how the treatments are funded:

* The "Free vs. Out-of-Pocket" Filter: In the US, IVF is heavily privatized. Because of this immense financial burden, American patients and clinics are highly selective. If a woman has a very low statistical chance of success due to age or diminished ovarian reserve, she will often stop treatment early or switch to using donor eggs so she doesn't spend money on a cycle unlikely to succeed. This artificially inflates the US national success average.

* Unlimited Tries in Israel: In Israel, the national health basket fully funds practically unlimited IVF cycles up to age 45 for eligible patients. Because there is no financial penalty for trying again, Israeli women continue to undergo cycles well into their 40s. Even when the statistical chance of a live birth drops to around 5% for older patients, they keep trying because the state covers the cost.

The Bottom Line: While the US has a higher chance of success on a single attempt, the cumulative chance of a woman eventually having a child is exceptionally high in Israel because she can undergo multiple rounds of IVF without facing financial ruin.



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Date: August 13th, 2026 10:47 AM
Author: thirsty histrionic range old irish cottage

Everything about these numbers seems off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#50065363)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 5:13 PM
Author: Mint Supple Selfie

agreed. does that mean there are fewer surrogate pregnancies per year than that, or are those calculated in a separate bucket

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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:14 PM
Author: Maniacal Vengeful Psychic Cuckoldry

That's a lot worse than I would have suspected

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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:46 PM
Author: clear bateful site circlehead

Cr. It’s a really depressing stat.

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Date: August 13th, 2026 8:25 AM
Author: Passionate chest-beating home

how so? a lot of them probably end up conceiving naturally and not needing to use the frozen eggs

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Date: August 13th, 2026 10:03 AM
Author: Vibrant Red Striped Hyena

Lmao

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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:45 PM
Author: clear bateful site circlehead

Obviously you’re an optimist

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Date: August 13th, 2026 11:09 PM
Author: Passionate chest-beating home

i truly am

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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: clear bateful site circlehead

XO Meme come to life

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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:48 PM
Author: cyan aggressive garrison

egg-freezing is not a fertility strategy. it's more like a psychological cope for women who don't want to admit to themselves that they will never have kids. a form of mental therapy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#50064713)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: mildly autistic concupiscible locale



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Date: August 13th, 2026 5:32 AM
Author: Jet-lagged dingle berry

God is real

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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: Jet-lagged dingle berry

its a 50-80k scam by JewMedical Complex

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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: Jet-lagged dingle berry

holy shit 180 so all these shrews are fucked!

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Date: August 13th, 2026 8:28 AM
Author: Passionate chest-beating home

no, that's how many end up having a child from the frozen eggs. it doesn't say how many of them end up conceiving naturally.

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Date: August 13th, 2026 9:48 AM
Author: Spectacular sepia keepsake machete trailer park

right, it doesnt imply what percentage of the frozen eggs are actually attempted to be used and what percentage of those uses succeed/fail

i think this is what matters: "the cumulative live birth rate of all patients undergoing oocyte warming was 28.9%"

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Date: August 13th, 2026 9:15 AM
Author: citrine foreskin mood

what percentage of "nuts" actually result in a child. the % must be unfathomably low. the entire process is a sham ime

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Date: August 13th, 2026 9:57 AM
Author: glittery hissy fit

(Onan)

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Date: August 13th, 2026 10:46 AM
Author: impressive nubile brunch



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Date: August 13th, 2026 9:18 AM
Author: cheese-eating vigorous forum karate

One clinic I worked with was entering bankrupty and LOL we were like, who owns the CUM and EGGS now?

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Date: August 13th, 2026 9:59 AM
Author: citrine foreskin mood

unsecured creditors lining up to reclaim a 4% share of their semen deposits

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Date: August 13th, 2026 10:02 AM
Author: glittery hissy fit

There is an Alabama SCOTUS case that says the frozen embryos are unborn children and laws related to death of children apply to them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909",#50065268)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 5:15 PM
Author: Beta Cowardly Milk Patrolman

they just pour it down a sink

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Date: August 13th, 2026 5:18 PM
Author: know-it-all corner chad

(AZNgirl buying Handsome Cum in bankruptcy sale at .02 cents on the dollar)

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Date: August 13th, 2026 9:58 AM
Author: mind-boggling bistre house

what about bros who freeze their heads like Ted Williams

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Date: August 13th, 2026 10:19 AM
Author: Vibrant Red Striped Hyena

I've known many women that have frozen their eggs and not a single one has wound up trying for a kid so far.

The fact is that if a woman in her mid 30s isn't *very* actively trying to get knocked up she never will. The type of woman that is still unsure but wants to keep her options open isn't likely to finally make such a major decision if she was uncertain at 29, 30, 31...

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Date: August 13th, 2026 10:44 AM
Author: thirsty histrionic range old irish cottage

Whoa, guess we beat all the odds. Our ivf baby is 180.

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Date: August 13th, 2026 10:55 AM
Author: Vibrant Red Striped Hyena

Did you use frozen eggs? IVF uses fresh eggs first.

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Date: August 13th, 2026 11:04 AM
Author: thirsty histrionic range old irish cottage

Ivf is just in vitro fertilization, fresh or frozen. We used frozen.

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Date: August 13th, 2026 11:32 AM
Author: Vibrant Red Striped Hyena

I understand I was just making sure you weren't talking about people who froze their eggs and then do IVF but have fresh eggs available to use.

Congrats on the kiddo!

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Date: August 13th, 2026 11:21 AM
Author: Charcoal Startling Library

Have you captured him yet?

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Date: August 13th, 2026 12:55 PM
Author: Stimulating painfully honest rigpig crackhouse

That's with the frozen eggs; some of them may find a guy virile enough to fuck a baby into their aging womb

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