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Cons what the fuck is "absolute immunity?" Is that a legal concept?

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Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness
  01/08/26
yes it is
Impertinent useless brakes dog poop
  01/08/26
Why does it exist?
Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness
  01/08/26
because White people (your Betters) decided that it should
Impertinent useless brakes dog poop
  01/08/26
Why?
Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness
  01/08/26
yes, it is
hyperventilating stag film
  01/08/26
Why does it exist?
Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness
  01/08/26
who cares
hyperventilating stag film
  01/08/26
Anyone?
Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness
  01/08/26
(Stephen Miller’s intern)
Misunderstood Affirmative Action Trailer Park
  01/08/26
Never heard of it.
Wild deer antler senate
  01/08/26
It's the immunity that applies to judges and (in certain cir...
french mahogany circlehead
  01/08/26
So judges and legislators can murder people and no one can a...
Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness
  01/08/26
it applies only to acts done in the scope of the role.
fantasy-prone set
  01/08/26
Wow. So the DHS donkey who violated DHS policy doesn't enjoy...
Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness
  01/08/26
i have no idea if absolute immunity applies to the MN killin...
fantasy-prone set
  01/08/26
DHS agents violating DHS policies are operating within the s...
Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness
  01/08/26
that's the entire point, and the power, of absolute immunity...
fantasy-prone set
  01/08/26
Violating policy = doing your job? Wow, government employmen...
Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness
  01/08/26
i'm not sure you and i are focusing on the key issue. abs...
fantasy-prone set
  01/08/26
So there are no consequences for "fucking up" if y...
Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness
  01/08/26
absolute immunity is quite rare, as i understand it. qual...
fantasy-prone set
  01/08/26
I'm stupid so please bear with me: if there's a written agen...
Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness
  01/08/26
that's my understanding, yes. AI is a doctrine for fuck-up s...
fantasy-prone set
  01/09/26
If he accidentally shot the driver I can see it, but this gu...
Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness
  01/09/26


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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:18 PM
Author: Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573120)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:18 PM
Author: Impertinent useless brakes dog poop

yes it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573122)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness

Why does it exist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573211)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:44 PM
Author: Impertinent useless brakes dog poop

because White people (your Betters) decided that it should

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573240)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573418)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:19 PM
Author: hyperventilating stag film

yes, it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573125)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:22 PM
Author: Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness

Why does it exist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573148)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:33 PM
Author: hyperventilating stag film

who cares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573205)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:34 PM
Author: Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness

Anyone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573210)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:20 PM
Author: Misunderstood Affirmative Action Trailer Park

(Stephen Miller’s intern)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573130)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:21 PM
Author: Wild deer antler senate

Never heard of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573138)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: french mahogany circlehead

It's the immunity that applies to judges and (in certain circumstances) prosecutors and legislators.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573213)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:15 PM
Author: Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness

So judges and legislators can murder people and no one can arrest them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573368)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:26 PM
Author: fantasy-prone set

it applies only to acts done in the scope of the role.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573411)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:29 PM
Author: Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness

Wow. So the DHS donkey who violated DHS policy doesn't enjoy absolute immunity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573417)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:27 PM
Author: fantasy-prone set

i have no idea if absolute immunity applies to the MN killing.

in general, though, the question of whether something is in the scope does not turn on whether policy was violated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573790)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:36 PM
Author: Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness

DHS agents violating DHS policies are operating within the scope of their duties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573813)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: fantasy-prone set

that's the entire point, and the power, of absolute immunity. there is no need to decide whether a judge or legislator who is following policy should get immunity.

the entire issue arises when a judge or legislator is doing their job and massively errs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573965)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:27 PM
Author: Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness

Violating policy = doing your job? Wow, government employment is amazing!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573971)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:33 PM
Author: fantasy-prone set

i'm not sure you and i are focusing on the key issue.

absolute immunity becomes an issue when someone arguably fucks up. it doesn't become an issue when someone follows policy.

so if a judge makes a massively erroneous ruling but wasn't bribed, etc., then it was within the scope of the job but was outside policy -- and the judge gets absolute immunity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573986)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:34 PM
Author: Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness

So there are no consequences for "fucking up" if you work for the government

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49573991)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: fantasy-prone set

absolute immunity is quite rare, as i understand it.

qualified immunity is more common, but even there it is broadly applied. cons have wanted to trim back or even decimate QI but libs have opposed that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49574651)



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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:38 PM
Author: Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness

I'm stupid so please bear with me: if there's a written agency policy that says "don't shoot moving vehicles," but an agency official shoots into a moving a vehicle, can the agency official still claim he was acting within the scope of his duties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49574741)



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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:05 AM
Author: fantasy-prone set

that's my understanding, yes. AI is a doctrine for fuck-up situations. but if you're doing more or less the official function, even if you get it wrong, it's within the scope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49574789)



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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:15 AM
Author: Cobalt Fiercely-loyal Twinkling Uncleanness

If he accidentally shot the driver I can see it, but this guy had extensive training and indemnifying him is a bad look for any employer. I guess I'll leave it there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819258&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49574803)