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There isn't enough actual work to do = root cause of all societal issues
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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:25 PM Author: saffron diverse senate Technology has advanced such that a critical mass of human labor has been removed from the economic equation. With high speed internet and smart phone technology being the final nail in the coffin.
People look at Minneapolis and say "wtf is going on here, how can all of these people be doing this shit?" It's because there is simply not enough productive work to go around.
I think on some level the elites know this and use ICE / "Wedge Issue of the Day" to keep people preoccupied and distracted from the deeper issue at hand. |
Date: January 26th, 2026 2:26 PM Author: Hairless ticket booth This was true even in the 1920s. HP Lovecraft wrote letters to his acquaintances that say the same thing basically. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49620766) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:33 PM Author: saffron diverse senate Maybe so, but the problem was temporarily fixed post-WW2 thanks to cheap oil and a consumer spending-driven economy that enabled the growth of a huge number of industries that could employ surplus workers (especially women.)
But the combination of technological advancements (IT, automation) and rising cost of material inputs (on a global per capita basis) destroyed all of that.
Elites' solutions have been endless debt issuance coupled with mass distraction events (Covid, Ukraine, now this.)
Optimistically (lol), I think things will actually chill out considerably in time. If for no other reason than populations are shrinking. But it's going to be a painful ride through the bottleneck. |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 3:12 PM Author: Hairless ticket booth people should just chill and play Indie Horror Games imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49620878) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:08 PM Author: mind-boggling address dysfunction Indie Titles provide a reprieve imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49621065) |
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Date: January 27th, 2026 8:02 AM Author: Hairless ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49622826) |
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Date: January 27th, 2026 11:35 AM Author: stirring clear resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49623255) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:30 PM Author: Magical Nighttime Associate Rigor yep, also we need mass immigration to do all the jobs americans don't want to do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49620781) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:31 PM Author: massive nudist home corn cake all vitality is dissipated into digital activities almost most of it never sees the light of day / or people choose to hide their digital “output”
our vitality / energy is looking for anything to be visible / represented in the real world even if it means getting your bald dome blasted off
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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:34 PM Author: saffron diverse senate I agree. I think this feeling undergirds everything at the moment. It is another reason why it often feels like everyone is halfassing their job. We were not meant to live like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49620789) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:37 PM Author: massive nudist home corn cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49620798) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:06 PM Author: stirring clear resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49621058) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:17 PM Author: massive nudist home corn cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49621101) |
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Date: January 27th, 2026 11:35 AM Author: stirring clear resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49623254) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:50 PM Author: Charcoal stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49621197) |
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Date: January 27th, 2026 11:34 AM Author: stirring clear resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49623252) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:34 PM Author: hateful indian lodge It's the lack of Malthusian pressures which is the root cause of what you're describing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49620790) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:08 PM Author: Marvelous orchestra pit doctorate https://pinebendrefinery.com/pine-bend-mn-oil-refinery/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49621066) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:11 PM Author: Dashing native https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49621083) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:13 PM Author: saffron diverse senate Familiar with Graeber's work. A problem is that even the Bullshit Jobs don't have enough "work" to them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49621092) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:14 PM Author: chestnut trip alpha field UBI & everyone lives in hovels & plays MMO all day
ready player one? |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:21 PM Author: saffron diverse senate I think a Ready Player One future only works if the debt bubble continues to be sustainable and if (very real) energy constraints can be solved. Look at what the power demand is for 10 second video creation...now imagine what would be required to run a gigantic Global MMO of any realism.
Best case outcome, IMO, is for the bubble to pop and force the breakup of huge numbers of value-extracting monopolies. A healthier economy is far more local and much smaller. The "Space Communism" types are almost as bad as the Mega Finance Capitalists. (I am speaking in incredible shorthand here, but I know you get the gist.) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:29 PM Author: chestnut trip alpha field you'd like this substack if you havn't seen it yet
https://thehonestsorcerer.substack.com/archive |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:43 PM Author: saffron diverse senate I have read him, but found him to be too dismal and way way way too much of a climate change fag.
I am a much bigger fan of Fabio Vighi and https://ourfiniteworld.com/ |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:51 PM Author: chestnut trip alpha field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49621198) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:23 PM Author: hateful indian lodge Yup. Because the fundamental issue is lack of Malthusian pressures. You can't spin up meaningful "jobs" out of thin air in a world that objectively has no legitimate need for them. See above (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49621119) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:25 PM Author: saffron diverse senate We didn't have malthusian pressures in the 90s and we still had real economic growth and job creation. Even though many of those jobs were totally removed from Malthusian pressures, they still required actual labor of some kind (and that labor then put its wages back into the economy creating a virtuous circle.)
The difference was we didn't have automation and high speed communication to the degree we do today (and have for the last 15+ years.)
To be clear, I know what you mean and it isn't lost on me. The Power Process was replaced by surrogate activities that at least filled time, but now has been replaced by "entertainment" and endless free time. |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:34 PM Author: hateful indian lodge No, our current problems have existed for a long time, since well before the 90s. They have just gotten worse since then. We remember the 90s fondly because we were kids. We had none of these kind of concerns because we were children
If we were adults then, we would have all been singing the same tune we are now. Many sophisticated people were at the time |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:36 PM Author: chestnut trip alpha field https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!74sh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa3ebc369-4cca-4235-a182-eb1ea64c8f10_1213x699.png (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49621158) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:41 PM Author: saffron diverse senate Not to be a total faggot, but this is why I said "critical mass" in the OP. I agree that this issue has been real and developing for decades and decades. But I think we hit a point of no return sometime in the last 5 years or so.
The whole Covid bullshit was a means to try and manage this. Obviously I am not the first to say this. |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:58 PM Author: hateful indian lodge Yeah I know. I respectfully disagree with this. You can track modern society's set of issues very well with the relaxing of Malthusian pressures over time
What is the unique about very recent times (21st century) is the explosion of nominal "jobs" that are actively destructive and parasitic. For example, a professional intellectual who worked in, say, Oceanography in 1990 was doing work that was maybe minimally useful to society, but it certainly wasn't actively harmful to it. It's reasonable for society to have people who are experts in fairly low-impact domains
But today, an academic in Oceanography is some fat ugly brown woman who doesn't know anything about oceans, doesn't care about them at all, and is only there to embezzle monopoly money and resources. Their "research" and "work" has nothing to do with ocean science, but is rather oriented toward "how water interacts with black and brown bodies" or something. They're an anti-social hostile actor
In short, it hasn't really been economic change. It's been a change in the actual biological composition of our society. Mostly "achieved" by immigration. Coupled with (anti)-social engineering to put bioleninist political constituents into sinecures |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 8:26 PM Author: saffron diverse senate Appreciate your thoughts ITT. I also lol'd at your user name. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49621945) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:51 PM Author: Charcoal stock car Wonderful thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49621201) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:52 PM Author: Magenta Gaped Garrison Masturbator Plenty of work to do at my place haha lots of firewood to be chopped (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49621209) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 5:02 PM Author: Emerald spectacular ape nursing home "Nothing is so unsettling to a social order as the presence of a mass of scribes without suitable employment and an acknowledged status." -- Eric Hoffer
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Date: January 26th, 2026 7:05 PM Author: massive nudist home corn cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49621650) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 5:30 PM Author: Purple metal candlestick maker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49621396) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 7:06 PM Author: chocolate step-uncle's house (christopher lasch) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826956&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49621654) |