\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

Has anyone in history reached the level of worldwide fame Michael Jackson did?

Not even Jesus is on his level
Hyperactive sick roast beef native
  10/16/25
he's not even the most famous person with "MJ" ini...
Electric old irish cottage space
  10/16/25
Elvis was bigger than MJ 🙄
Deep preventive strike genital piercing
  10/16/25
worldwide it’s michael and its not even close
Hyperactive sick roast beef native
  10/16/25
Can’t argue with that, Chang
Hateful Confused Indian Lodge
  10/16/25
WRONG https://static.dw.com/image/40162725_1004.webp
Deep preventive strike genital piercing
  10/16/25
...
Hyperactive sick roast beef native
  10/16/25
youre being sloppy with your categories and numbers i pre...
gold milk stead
  10/16/25
let’s narrow it to at the peak of their fame, name rec...
Hyperactive sick roast beef native
  10/16/25
Trump and it's not even remotely close
Electric old irish cottage space
  10/16/25
There is a stratosphere of "globally recognizable"...
gold milk stead
  10/16/25
You’re a fucking retard and you’re over complica...
Hyperactive sick roast beef native
  10/16/25
while still alive is an important component and you are not ...
Electric old irish cottage space
  10/16/25
Taylor Swift is basically at that level rn
Disrespectful brass juggernaut circlehead
  10/16/25
she’s not on Michael’s level at his peak no sorr...
Hyperactive sick roast beef native
  10/16/25
you are so fucking weird
Electric old irish cottage space
  10/16/25
She never had the universal appeal of MJ in the 80s.
Deep preventive strike genital piercing
  10/16/25
Right. Swift fans are a certain type. But everyone loved Mic...
Razzle bipolar step-uncle's house
  10/16/25
but her fans are more devoted on average, so i'd say it's at...
Low-t Principal's Office
  10/16/25
Would jet black Congo ophthalmologists know Taylor? I guess ...
Pea-brained Vengeful Base Blood Rage
  10/16/25
...
Low-t Principal's Office
  10/16/25
Even old people knew MJ. Nobody over 50 has any idea who Ta...
Dull Painfully Honest Brunch
  10/21/25
Theres something about music thats different to say a film/m...
Stirring khaki office mad-dog skullcap
  10/16/25
Toddlers also know "SP" before seeing him but that...
Pea-brained Vengeful Base Blood Rage
  10/16/25
How would toddlers know who spaceporn is? Do toddlers read...
Deep preventive strike genital piercing
  10/16/25
When the lights go out in the playroom, they know
Pea-brained Vengeful Base Blood Rage
  10/16/25
jfc SP
Gay field
  10/16/25
I think Michael Jordan got pretty close
Razzle bipolar step-uncle's house
  10/16/25
yeah he's the first one i think of for counter examples. ...
gold milk stead
  10/16/25
get out of my thread you insufferable autist
Hyperactive sick roast beef native
  10/16/25
Jordan is a good one
Hyperactive sick roast beef native
  10/16/25
I don't think most goat herders in Mongolia knew who he is
motley gas station
  10/21/25
Trump obviously
ruddy marvelous puppy hospital
  10/16/25
LORD BYRON
Orchid corner mediation
  10/21/25
cr. he was famous worldwide at a time before tv, radio, etc....
Spectacular crystalline library potus
  10/21/25
last 50 years? Other than MJ, probably Trump and Elvis
motley gas station
  10/21/25
Muhammad Ali was more famous than Michael Jackson.
Magical twisted black woman
  10/21/25
Religious figures don't count, Trumpkin.
Deep preventive strike genital piercing
  10/21/25
Trump
Provocative topaz therapy useless brakes
  10/21/25
Man, fuck these other comments. You're GODDAMN RIGHT that th...
henna stimulating church building
  10/21/25
Michael Jackson and Madonna wouldn't have been able to walk ...
Self-absorbed Sanctuary
  10/21/25
he wasnt even the most famous during his century. Elvis and ...
Spectacular crystalline library potus
  10/21/25
Did people in Asia and Africa even know about Elvis and the ...
Dull Painfully Honest Brunch
  10/21/25
who cares what they think. the world is America and Europe.
Spectacular crystalline library potus
  10/21/25


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 8:48 AM
Author: Hyperactive sick roast beef native

Not even Jesus is on his level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352666)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 8:56 AM
Author: Electric old irish cottage space

he's not even the most famous person with "MJ" initials you tranny retard. you just like him because he was a disgusting pedo just like you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352673)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 8:49 AM
Author: Deep preventive strike genital piercing

Elvis was bigger than MJ 🙄

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352668)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: Hyperactive sick roast beef native

worldwide it’s michael and its not even close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352669)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:12 AM
Author: Hateful Confused Indian Lodge

Can’t argue with that, Chang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352705)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:17 AM
Author: Deep preventive strike genital piercing

WRONG

https://static.dw.com/image/40162725_1004.webp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352714)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: Hyperactive sick roast beef native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352716)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: gold milk stead

youre being sloppy with your categories and numbers

i presume you mean "in his lifetime", and so of course Jesus is out of the conversation

and i also presume you mean total headcount of people who recognize this celebrity. so, naturally, anyone famous in an era of mass communication and a global pop over 5 billion is going to win.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352671)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 8:59 AM
Author: Hyperactive sick roast beef native

let’s narrow it to at the peak of their fame, name recognition, face recognition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352679)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:01 AM
Author: Electric old irish cottage space

Trump and it's not even remotely close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352683)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: gold milk stead

There is a stratosphere of "globally recognizable" and then all these unimportant, noisy factors like

- were there 8 billion people on earth, or only 6.9 billion (2001)

- how many chinks had internet access

etc

Every year there are more humans, and every year there is more distribution of media

So 2025 people will beat 2017 people, etc.

Does that make them "moar famous"? Mathematically, I guess.

I think the only meaningful thing to do is to acknowledge that a small group have reached "global fame while alive".

Popes, potuses, pop stars, soccer stars.

Again, presuming this whole convo is bracketed by 'while still alive'. Otherwise obv Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352719)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: Hyperactive sick roast beef native

You’re a fucking retard and you’re over complicating this because you’re an autist. I told you upthread all we need to measure is percentage of worldwide name recognition and face recognition at their peak

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352793)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 12:00 PM
Author: Electric old irish cottage space

while still alive is an important component and you are not explaining it clearly because you are a retarded tranny pedophile.

while still alive = Trump (not remotely close)

all time = Jesus (also not remotely close)

michael fucking jackson couldn't hold trumps nutsack and you are a retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49353115)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: Disrespectful brass juggernaut circlehead

Taylor Swift is basically at that level rn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352681)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:03 AM
Author: Hyperactive sick roast beef native

she’s not on Michael’s level at his peak no sorry

she’s absolutely the most famous living pop star though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352686)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:04 AM
Author: Electric old irish cottage space

you are so fucking weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352688)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: Deep preventive strike genital piercing

She never had the universal appeal of MJ in the 80s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352718)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: Razzle bipolar step-uncle's house

Right. Swift fans are a certain type. But everyone loved Michael Jackson

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352748)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: Low-t Principal's Office

but her fans are more devoted on average, so i'd say it's at the same level overall. at the very least it's worldwide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49353171)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:23 AM
Author: Pea-brained Vengeful Base Blood Rage

Would jet black Congo ophthalmologists know Taylor? I guess they all have obamaphones so I guess so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352726)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: Low-t Principal's Office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49353168)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:42 AM
Author: Dull Painfully Honest Brunch

Even old people knew MJ. Nobody over 50 has any idea who Taylor Swift is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49363758)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:07 AM
Author: Stirring khaki office mad-dog skullcap

Theres something about music thats different to say a film/movie star like Tom Cruise/Brad Pitt etc where, even if some third worlder hasnt seen him live or on a TV, they're deeply familiar w the work and it transcends that person as a product, they become ethereal

sound gay but even toddlers would know "MJ" just from the beats before they ever saw him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352692)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:22 AM
Author: Pea-brained Vengeful Base Blood Rage

Toddlers also know "SP" before seeing him but that doesn't make him the most famous ever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352725)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:24 AM
Author: Deep preventive strike genital piercing

How would toddlers know who spaceporn is? Do toddlers read xo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352735)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Pea-brained Vengeful Base Blood Rage

When the lights go out in the playroom, they know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352807)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: Gay field

jfc SP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352964)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: Razzle bipolar step-uncle's house

I think Michael Jordan got pretty close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352745)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 9:33 AM
Author: gold milk stead

yeah he's the first one i think of for counter examples.

he reached the absolute pinnacle and there was nothing he could have done to increase recognition. he spanned the globe.

BUT he peaked during a smaller global pop and before the internet, so someone lesser than he, but who is famous today, would surpass his headcount.

you just need to identify the handful of people who maxed out, and he was one of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352754)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: Hyperactive sick roast beef native

get out of my thread you insufferable autist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352971)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: Hyperactive sick roast beef native

Jordan is a good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49352970)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:30 AM
Author: motley gas station

I don't think most goat herders in Mongolia knew who he is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49363732)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 16th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: ruddy marvelous puppy hospital

Trump obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49353162)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: Orchid corner mediation

LORD BYRON

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49363722)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: Spectacular crystalline library potus

cr. he was famous worldwide at a time before tv, radio, etc..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49363921)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: motley gas station

last 50 years? Other than MJ, probably Trump and Elvis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49363733)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: Magical twisted black woman

Muhammad Ali was more famous than Michael Jackson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49363752)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:46 AM
Author: Deep preventive strike genital piercing

Religious figures don't count, Trumpkin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49363763)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: Provocative topaz therapy useless brakes

Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49363755)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: henna stimulating church building

Man, fuck these other comments. You're GODDAMN RIGHT that the king of pop tops all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49363756)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: Self-absorbed Sanctuary

Michael Jackson and Madonna wouldn't have been able to walk down an alley in Madagascar without being screamed at and having their songs sung during their prime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49363759)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 12:41 PM
Author: Spectacular crystalline library potus

he wasnt even the most famous during his century. Elvis and Beatles have him beat. maybe sinatra.

as for all of history op is clearly flame. but off top of my head: Jesus, Alexander, George Washington, napoleon, Byron, Shakespeare, etc...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49363934)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 6:55 PM
Author: Dull Painfully Honest Brunch

Did people in Asia and Africa even know about Elvis and the Beatles? I feel like they were more aware of Jackson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49364860)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 21st, 2025 8:06 PM
Author: Spectacular crystalline library potus

who cares what they think. the world is America and Europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#49364972)