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mass surveillance seems like it just happened without much resistance

sure, there is token resistance among people with No Power, ...
bateful sandwich
  08/06/26
We live in a nightmare combo of Brave New World and 1984
curious piazza blood rage
  08/06/26
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cruel-hearted sanctuary quadroon
  08/06/26
Oh no I was recorded driving
grizzly milk
  08/06/26
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mustard provocative cruise ship philosopher-king
  08/07/26
that's how things always happen
Comical frozen brethren
  08/06/26
what does it all mean Consuela
bateful sandwich
  08/06/26
it means that the media creates stories to feed to people, a...
Comical frozen brethren
  08/06/26
you are a wise man
bateful sandwich
  08/06/26
it ended with covid
Fragrant plaza
  08/06/26
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Contagious snowy organic girlfriend senate
  08/06/26
Voters are 180
Slippery stead
  08/06/26
Snowden accomplished nothing
passionate antidepressant drug public bath
  08/06/26
he didn't realize how apathetic proles are to things that ar...
bateful sandwich
  08/06/26
...
Comical frozen brethren
  08/06/26
The NSA has never been accused of violating anyone's rights
Trip Vermilion Hall
  08/06/26
Police are going to start deploying drones ahead of officers...
boyish sneaky criminal generalized bond
  08/06/26
We need cameras and drones everywhere and AI agents constant...
Diverse Lodge Ratface
  08/06/26
Next phase would be aerostats parked over every city with th...
boyish sneaky criminal generalized bond
  08/06/26
Couldn’t support this more as long as they are careful...
Diverse Lodge Ratface
  08/06/26
Yeah unfair. The algorithm can be programmed to ensure histo...
boyish sneaky criminal generalized bond
  08/06/26
my chats with claude, kimi, and chatgpt are all private i...
Odious doobsian therapy wagecucks
  08/06/26
what do you mean they are "private" lol
bateful sandwich
  08/06/26
i click the private link so i know no one knows that is me s...
Odious doobsian therapy wagecucks
  08/06/26
Expert move, computerman.
infuriating appetizing theater
  08/06/26
Mass surveillance has been with us for at least 30 years
Marvelous hateful ticket booth
  08/06/26
and?
bateful sandwich
  08/06/26
IDK m drinking I guess I thought there was a recency implica...
Marvelous hateful ticket booth
  08/06/26
...
sick gay wizard
  08/06/26
Sure. But in the past it was almost exclusively the domai...
galvanic theatre
  08/06/26
It's backwoods sheriff's deputies but yeah And that why y...
Marvelous hateful ticket booth
  08/06/26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction
bateful sandwich
  08/06/26
We're killing the wrong animals
Marvelous hateful ticket booth
  08/06/26
we're next champ
bateful sandwich
  08/06/26
Human birth rate is decreasing why are we shocked chimps and...
Overrated Forum
  08/06/26
So what?
Trip Vermilion Hall
  08/06/26
that's my point I guess, no one Cares.
bateful sandwich
  08/06/26
Why should we?
Trip Vermilion Hall
  08/06/26
you're Begging the Question
bateful sandwich
  08/06/26
Should be an easy question. You low IQ?
Trip Vermilion Hall
  08/06/26
no I have a Philosophy degree.
bateful sandwich
  08/06/26
Ok then, freak the fuck out about government surveillance. D...
Trip Vermilion Hall
  08/06/26
great subthread
cracking slate trailer park corn cake
  08/06/26
you are posing the question "why should anyone care&quo...
bateful sandwich
  08/06/26
mass surveillance seems like it just happened without much r...
Trip Vermilion Hall
  08/06/26
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orchid titillating toaster national
  08/07/26
it's way too useful to too many powerful interests to stop. ...
cerise national security agency brunch
  08/06/26
...
Contagious snowy organic girlfriend senate
  08/06/26
Why don't they use it against Iran?
Trip Vermilion Hall
  08/06/26
i assume that all kinds of surveillance tools are being used...
cerise national security agency brunch
  08/06/26
If we used mass surveillance against Iran we'd win for sure.
Trip Vermilion Hall
  08/06/26
there's a lot of stuff that works like you described (untouc...
Contagious snowy organic girlfriend senate
  08/06/26
'blame' would be best apportioned against those with the mos...
cerise national security agency brunch
  08/06/26
the point is that no one can be blamed, though. no one has e...
Contagious snowy organic girlfriend senate
  08/06/26
existential blame ("you did this") is silly, but l...
cerise national security agency brunch
  08/06/26
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Odious doobsian therapy wagecucks
  08/07/26
I went to a lake weekend with a group, one of the girls in n...
Painfully honest underhanded space
  08/07/26
Scary
Trip Vermilion Hall
  08/07/26
You are a fascist
hairraiser newt double fault
  08/07/26
as ever, rednecks are our only hope and are rising to the ch...
Sickened Adventurous Temple
  08/07/26
Are they though? These cameras are fucking everywhere now, i...
galvanic theatre
  08/07/26


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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:12 PM
Author: bateful sandwich

sure, there is token resistance among people with No Power, like redditors against Flock cameras. but overall, everyone just acquiesced to the Eye of Big Brother like NBD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050206)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 9:05 PM
Author: curious piazza blood rage

We live in a nightmare combo of Brave New World and 1984

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050454)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: cruel-hearted sanctuary quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050811)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:13 PM
Author: grizzly milk

Oh no I was recorded driving

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050208)



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Date: August 7th, 2026 1:38 PM
Author: mustard provocative cruise ship philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50051672)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:14 PM
Author: Comical frozen brethren

that's how things always happen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050209)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:14 PM
Author: bateful sandwich

what does it all mean Consuela

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050211)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:25 PM
Author: Comical frozen brethren

it means that the media creates stories to feed to people, and the people react to it. if the media does not cover the story or tell them how to react to it (either pro or con), it pretty much doesn't exist

all the world's a stage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050234)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:26 PM
Author: bateful sandwich

you are a wise man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050235)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:20 PM
Author: Fragrant plaza

it ended with covid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050223)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:20 PM
Author: Contagious snowy organic girlfriend senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050224)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:26 PM
Author: Slippery stead

Voters are 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050238)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:26 PM
Author: passionate antidepressant drug public bath

Snowden accomplished nothing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050239)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:30 PM
Author: bateful sandwich

he didn't realize how apathetic proles are to things that aren't in their immediate interest. he grew up around a bunch of feds and officers and probably thought that was how most people were.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050246)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:32 PM
Author: Comical frozen brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050252)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 11:07 PM
Author: Trip Vermilion Hall

The NSA has never been accused of violating anyone's rights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050741)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:51 PM
Author: boyish sneaky criminal generalized bond

Police are going to start deploying drones ahead of officers to 911 calls. It's a short step away from having them up over cities 24/7.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050293)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:53 PM
Author: Diverse Lodge Ratface

We need cameras and drones everywhere and AI agents constantly searching them for violations and auto deploying police. This is what is going to really help us get to a new level of Utopia is that before there weren't enough humans to scan ever second of every video feed. Now AI can do it tirelessly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050296)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:57 PM
Author: boyish sneaky criminal generalized bond

Next phase would be aerostats parked over every city with these massive cameras that can essentially watch an entire downtown. AI will process feeds for analysts at Fusion Centers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050303)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:04 PM
Author: Diverse Lodge Ratface

Couldn’t support this more as long as they are careful to ensure black and brown bodies dont get unfair incarceration outcomes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050321)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:18 PM
Author: boyish sneaky criminal generalized bond

Yeah unfair. The algorithm can be programmed to ensure historically disserviced communities are pixilated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050349)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:59 PM
Author: Odious doobsian therapy wagecucks

my chats with claude, kimi, and chatgpt are all private

i did come across some synthetic propaganda yesterday how flock helped a local neighborhood but didn’t fall for it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050307)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:59 PM
Author: bateful sandwich

what do you mean they are "private" lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050309)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:01 PM
Author: Odious doobsian therapy wagecucks

i click the private link so i know no one knows that is me sharing my inner thoughts with a large language model who is responding to me as if it a human

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050311)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:41 PM
Author: infuriating appetizing theater

Expert move, computerman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050690)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:59 PM
Author: Marvelous hateful ticket booth

Mass surveillance has been with us for at least 30 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050308)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:07 PM
Author: bateful sandwich

and?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050325)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: Marvelous hateful ticket booth

IDK m drinking I guess I thought there was a recency implication in your op due to flock reference

Anyway, it's too late, we're cooked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050330)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 9:52 PM
Author: sick gay wizard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050575)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: galvanic theatre

Sure.

But in the past it was almost exclusively the domain of feds. And they mostly only busted it out on reasonably legitimate enemies of the state. And maybe they did some parallel construction stuff on serious crimes that don't really pertain to national security.

Now it's bored state cops doing dragnets on people doing border runs to states where weed is legal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050432)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:00 PM
Author: Marvelous hateful ticket booth

It's backwoods sheriff's deputies but yeah

And that why you can't allow it even for a "good reason" by the "good guys"

Fuck it, maybe after civilization collapses we'll build a better one. Should only take like 3k years this time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050591)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:03 PM
Author: bateful sandwich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050597)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:05 PM
Author: Marvelous hateful ticket booth

We're killing the wrong animals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050602)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:08 PM
Author: bateful sandwich

we're next champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050609)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:38 PM
Author: Overrated Forum

Human birth rate is decreasing why are we shocked chimps and whales also don't wanna fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050687)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: Trip Vermilion Hall

So what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050435)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 9:02 PM
Author: bateful sandwich

that's my point I guess, no one Cares.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050446)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 9:49 PM
Author: Trip Vermilion Hall

Why should we?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050569)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: bateful sandwich

you're Begging the Question

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050571)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:24 PM
Author: Trip Vermilion Hall

Should be an easy question. You low IQ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050649)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:25 PM
Author: bateful sandwich

no I have a Philosophy degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050653)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:29 PM
Author: Trip Vermilion Hall

Ok then, freak the fuck out about government surveillance. Don't let me stop you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050664)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:32 PM
Author: cracking slate trailer park corn cake

great subthread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050674)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:35 PM
Author: bateful sandwich

you are posing the question "why should anyone care" as if this is a question I am invested in or have the answer to. all I know is that Americans generally are opposed to government and civic overreach, but in this case, they ceded privacy with little fanfare. as a Liberal Nihilist I lend no weight to any moral conviction in the matter and maintain a supine neutrality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050679)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:43 PM
Author: Trip Vermilion Hall

mass surveillance seems like it just happened without much resistance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050696)



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Date: August 7th, 2026 12:04 AM
Author: orchid titillating toaster national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050834)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:31 PM
Author: cerise national security agency brunch

it's way too useful to too many powerful interests to stop. it's a good illustration of how 'the system' actually works. when something is important to the system, it is placed outside of the 'democratic process' entirely, and that's that. there is no corrective mechanism for this. no such check and/or balance exists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050670)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:31 PM
Author: Contagious snowy organic girlfriend senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050671)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:32 PM
Author: Trip Vermilion Hall

Why don't they use it against Iran?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050672)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:34 PM
Author: cerise national security agency brunch

i assume that all kinds of surveillance tools are being used against iran, but the US probably lacks 'local staging' options for strikes against such targets, which means that longer-range munitions are depleted when such targets are hit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050676)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:35 PM
Author: Trip Vermilion Hall

If we used mass surveillance against Iran we'd win for sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050680)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:38 PM
Author: Contagious snowy organic girlfriend senate

there's a lot of stuff that works like you described (untouchable because it's invaluable to The Machine). people don't like to recognize or admit this because it makes it so there's no human beings they can blame and it's also boring and i guess blackpilling

the older i get, the clearer it becomes to me that most of what happens in the world is outside of human design. there's no actual human mechanism to stop the inexorable advance and consolidation of technology and capital. but then eventually, the system will break down and collapse anyway, like it always has throughout history, without humans deliberately doing anything to bring that about, either

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050686)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:46 PM
Author: cerise national security agency brunch

'blame' would be best apportioned against those with the most power and cash, in line with the old maxim 'to whom much is given, much is expected.' but you can understand why a media and culture shaped around the worship and protection of power would suppress that kind of message.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050700)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:54 PM
Author: Contagious snowy organic girlfriend senate

the point is that no one can be blamed, though. no one has even close to enough power to actually change the system in any consequential way. it's literally impossible. to speak of "blame" at all is incoherent

the system cannot be changed or "reformed" from within. it could only ever be destroyed by an outside force

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050719)



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Date: August 6th, 2026 11:00 PM
Author: cerise national security agency brunch

existential blame ("you did this") is silly, but localized blame ("you profited/took advantage of/etc.") is perfectly apt in many cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050733)



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Date: August 7th, 2026 2:05 PM
Author: Odious doobsian therapy wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50051778)



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Date: August 7th, 2026 1:38 AM
Author: Painfully honest underhanded space

I went to a lake weekend with a group, one of the girls in nashville married a firefighter there

He said during the nfl draft in like 2018 in nashville or whatever, they had some marathon in the morning. They had on camera some guy dropping a bag off next to a trash can near crowds.

This dude was working special ops on some command center with like big screens all over the wall. He said they saw the guy on camera drop it off. They within minutes were able to pick him out (general description, clothing) amongst tens of thousands of people, he downtown at that moment. And get cops on him. . He thought it was crazy. Imagine that shit now with AI

Turns out the dude was some normal dude who put his bag down before the race

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050969)



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Date: August 7th, 2026 10:36 AM
Author: Trip Vermilion Hall

Scary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50051362)



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Date: August 7th, 2026 10:41 AM
Author: hairraiser newt double fault

You are a fascist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50051370)



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Date: August 7th, 2026 1:40 AM
Author: Sickened Adventurous Temple

as ever, rednecks are our only hope and are rising to the challenge, king's mountain lives on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50050974)



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Date: August 7th, 2026 12:44 PM
Author: galvanic theatre

Are they though? These cameras are fucking everywhere now, including rural as fuck areas where traffic signs are frequently used for target practice.

Pretty much all of the occasions of people fucking with these cameras that I've heard of are in metro areas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310909#50051591)