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Poll: Draft by "End of Day" Means 5 pm, 8 pm, midnight, 9 am next day?

Also--your time or their time?
hairraiser principal's office feces
  01/05/26
your time eod 12am
provocative low-t orchestra pit
  01/05/26
...
chartreuse razzmatazz office
  01/05/26
Why midnight? Assume you don't have a reason to think the pe...
hairraiser principal's office feces
  01/05/26
“Assume you don't have a reason to think the people wa...
Twisted Brilliant Doctorate Point
  01/05/26
eod = midnight cob = 1700
sapphire senate halford
  01/05/26
...
Coiffed slate church
  01/05/26
Cr
Concupiscible doobsian mother dopamine
  01/05/26
...
Snowy lay rigor
  01/05/26
"When it's done"
lascivious dull nursing home
  01/05/26
What if it's not done until after EOD?
hairraiser principal's office feces
  01/05/26
Will flip this to you ASAP, thanks
lascivious dull nursing home
  01/05/26
...
aphrodisiac cruise ship roast beef
  01/05/26
depends on the context. court filing? midnight. in-house? li...
unhinged claret den police squad
  01/05/26
Court filing is easy insofar as there will be a Local Rule. ...
hairraiser principal's office feces
  01/05/26
it depends on your office culture and who else is involved
unhinged claret den police squad
  01/05/26
Biglaw trannies are also midnight, but 10 pm is far more app...
Copper school cafeteria
  01/05/26
Setting an artificial 4 pm deadline is wild. If someone want...
hairraiser principal's office feces
  01/05/26
I’m absolutely swamped with poasts to make
violent library
  01/05/26
Yes. The point of the 4 pm deadline is for them to pretend t...
Copper school cafeteria
  01/05/26
2pm if a scientist needs to review it
Awkward people who are hurt pisswyrm
  01/05/26
...
Coiffed slate church
  01/05/26
...
Confused School Mad Cow Disease
  01/05/26
...
angry ungodly azn
  01/05/26
usually means "within the hour"
splenetic elastic band newt
  01/05/26
9 or 10pm
Fragrant whorehouse
  01/05/26
Why those times? At 9, I might just be logging back on after...
hairraiser principal's office feces
  01/05/26
It generally means 5 or 6pm in the requestor’s time zo...
Electric orange jew
  01/05/26
What is requestor is in Europe? Or you're on west coast, req...
hairraiser principal's office feces
  01/05/26
in house it means 5 to 6pm. biglaw it means midnight.
Chest-beating Ebony Hunting Ground
  01/05/26
Cr.
glittery new version
  01/05/26
...
sticky thriller striped hyena
  01/05/26
More precisely in biglaw, end of day means “before you...
angry ungodly azn
  01/05/26
There’s going to be more punctuation at the end of tha...
Electric orange jew
  01/06/26
lol
angry ungodly azn
  01/07/26
At the end of the day, what does it matter?
Lemon abode
  01/05/26
close of business means by 5pm, but end of day is anytime by...
gold razzle parlor
  01/06/26
You got it reversed
angry ungodly azn
  01/07/26
...
angry ungodly azn
  01/13/26


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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:13 PM
Author: hairraiser principal's office feces

Also--your time or their time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564535)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:15 PM
Author: provocative low-t orchestra pit

your time eod 12am

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564546)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: chartreuse razzmatazz office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564549)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: hairraiser principal's office feces

Why midnight? Assume you don't have a reason to think the people waiting on the draft are going to do another turn in the wee hours of the morning. So, at that point, what's the differences with doing (and billing for) a few more hours and sending it at 3 am?

And at that point, what's the difference with waiting to send it at 7 or 8 am, before the next workday starts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564561)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:50 PM
Author: Twisted Brilliant Doctorate Point

“Assume you don't have a reason to think the people waiting on the draft are going to do another turn in the wee hours of the morning.”

what kind of penny-ante hobbyists are you working across from?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564839)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: sapphire senate halford

eod = midnight

cob = 1700

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564552)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Coiffed slate church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564562)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:51 PM
Author: Concupiscible doobsian mother dopamine

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564673)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: Snowy lay rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564678)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:19 PM
Author: lascivious dull nursing home

"When it's done"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564555)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:21 PM
Author: hairraiser principal's office feces

What if it's not done until after EOD?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564564)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:26 PM
Author: lascivious dull nursing home

Will flip this to you ASAP, thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564579)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: aphrodisiac cruise ship roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49565826)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: unhinged claret den police squad

depends on the context. court filing? midnight. in-house? like 2pm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564560)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:23 PM
Author: hairraiser principal's office feces

Court filing is easy insofar as there will be a Local Rule.

For other work, I don't want to scramble to get things done by 2 pm--especially because it means I might get the next round of comments back the same day. I want to chill while things build up throughout the day, then scramble through several things between about 4:30 and 5:20.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564569)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: unhinged claret den police squad

it depends on your office culture and who else is involved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564624)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:25 PM
Author: Copper school cafeteria

Biglaw trannies are also midnight, but 10 pm is far more appreciated because it lets others bill easy hours before bed. Inhouse 2 pm is only west coast with east coast audience but most people specify “COB” and that means get it out by 4 your time so others have the option of reviewing before they leave to pick up their kids or after they put their kids to bed (they won’t actually review or respond for at least a week).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564576)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:31 PM
Author: hairraiser principal's office feces

Setting an artificial 4 pm deadline is wild. If someone wants to review it that day, they should say so and specify a time. People get jammed up with meetings, multiple agreements to review, poasts to make, etc.

Absolutely CR re "they won’t actually review or respond for at least a week," btw. There are two times for responses--5 minutes after you send and late next week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564589)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:39 PM
Author: violent library

I’m absolutely swamped with poasts to make

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564630)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:42 PM
Author: Copper school cafeteria

Yes. The point of the 4 pm deadline is for them to pretend that they are hardworking and for you to pass your own self-imposed shit test. But the logic of this makes sense the more exposure you have to senior execs/SVPs and other managers of managers who are running large organizations. Most of what they do is at least partially performative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564645)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:25 PM
Author: Awkward people who are hurt pisswyrm

2pm if a scientist needs to review it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564577)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:39 PM
Author: Coiffed slate church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564629)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:06 PM
Author: Confused School Mad Cow Disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564881)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:45 PM
Author: angry ungodly azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49565722)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:35 PM
Author: splenetic elastic band newt

usually means "within the hour"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564613)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:44 PM
Author: Fragrant whorehouse

9 or 10pm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564647)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:54 PM
Author: hairraiser principal's office feces

Why those times? At 9, I might just be logging back on after the kids go to bed. So, getting the draft out before I go to bed matches the EOD and my schedule better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564680)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:47 PM
Author: Electric orange jew

It generally means 5 or 6pm in the requestor’s time zone if the person is either important or a client. In other cases it means before they log on the next morning.

Worst thing you can do is send it early enough to get comments back that night, after you’ve rushed to get it out, screwed off online for 90 mins to recuperate, and finally turned to the other work you were supposed to get done yesterday/today/last week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49564828)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 6:09 PM
Author: hairraiser principal's office feces

What is requestor is in Europe? Or you're on west coast, requestor is on east coast?

In either of those cases, it should mean before they log on the next morning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49565016)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 8:29 PM
Author: Chest-beating Ebony Hunting Ground

in house it means 5 to 6pm. biglaw it means midnight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49565377)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:26 PM
Author: glittery new version

Cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49565691)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:44 PM
Author: sticky thriller striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49565821)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:18 PM
Author: angry ungodly azn

More precisely in biglaw, end of day means “before you go to bed and before I wake up.” But you better gird your ass if you misjudge that and get a “Where is the draft?” at 4 am.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49565681)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 8:13 PM
Author: Electric orange jew

There’s going to be more punctuation at the end of that 4am email

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49567806)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: angry ungodly azn

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49569664)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: Lemon abode

At the end of the day, what does it matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49565824)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 8:15 PM
Author: gold razzle parlor

close of business means by 5pm, but end of day is anytime by midnight for biglaw and by tomorrow dawn for mid-tier firms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49567815)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 3:06 PM
Author: angry ungodly azn

You got it reversed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49569669)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 10:42 PM
Author: angry ungodly azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310911",#49587793)