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Weird to me that AI hasn’t become more of a political issue
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Date: November 1st, 2024 4:20 PM Author: magadood We rapidly went from lame AI to LLMs passing the Turing test for the most part and everyone shrugged their shoulders and continued worrying about the same old bullshit. This should be the most important political issue of our time but it appears not many people are thinking about it even now. Very weird. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48268828) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 9:21 PM Author: Epistemic Humility Aschenbrenner's essay was a turning point. The political class has started to digest the change that is coming.
Biden campaign tried to make AI an issue just before he had to drop out (terribly, I might add, their prescriptions were all wrong).
Aschenbrenner could be in a Trump administration. |
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Date: November 6th, 2024 7:10 PM Author: ,.,,,.,,,,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,., Ivanka actually mentioned his book in a tweet. It seems elite awareness of this is growing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48302746) |
Date: November 1st, 2024 4:22 PM Author: completely deranged lunatic 95% of the population and 100% of the non white population is too stupid to even remotely comprehend how AI works or the cascade of consequences that will result from it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48268833) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 6:07 PM Author: squall Also all powers are in an arms race to weaponize it to its fullest rn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269292) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 4:22 PM Author: Wang Hernandez it doesn’t pass the Turing test; it’s a glorified word selector (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48268835) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 4:30 PM Author: magadood The word selector that obviously learned extensively about the world and is able to use that knowledge flexibility and ways that are significantly different from its training material. I am sorry man, but no amount of confused statements about what humans do vs. LLMs will allow me to ignore the fact I can give it random math problems and it solves them at the level of a pretty competent UG. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48268878) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 4:40 PM Author: completely deranged lunatic LLMs do pass the Turing test now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48268922) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 4:46 PM Author: magadood A lot of it has to do with what the LLM is trained for. GPT-4 does not write like a human in its default state because it was designed to be a safe, boring assistant. The ones that don’t have guard rails or are instructed to simply respond like a human are much less obvious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48268949) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 5:41 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) the human brain is a glorified word selector (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269190) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 7:11 PM Author: ,.,,,.,,,,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,., Right. The “it’s just a word predictor” is the one of the worst criticisms of LLMs. Let’s say you are taking a predictor and training it on the words people write. In order to excel at this task on arbitrary text, it needs to construct models of human cognition. A text predictor that doesn’t understand human concepts and how they relate to each other is not going to work well. It obviously has done this. Humans might not have the same objective of predicting the next word, but that’s inconsequential. If I can predict the behavior of an agent, then I can simulate their actions as if I was one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269579) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 8:19 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) I like the use of the word "objective" in reference to the underlying motivations governing word selection. While humans may have innately human emotions they're trying to regulate via some innately human function, machines are doing something analogous by attempting to maximize or minimize some objective function/cost function/whatever you want to call it. That, in essence, is machine learning. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269783) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 4:23 PM Author: ,.,,.,..,..,..,.,..,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,.,..,. They want you focused on Mystery Meat Cackle Witch vs Sweet Potato Hitler. You’re doing great, sweetie. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48268838) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 4:48 PM Author: todd bonzalez can you imagine either candidate speaking intelligently about what ai even is, much less what policy proposals would make sense in response? add to that that roughly 0.00% of the voters up for grabs would be able to beat those performances. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48268969) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 5:04 PM Author: magadood This is true but it seems insane we are running straight towards something that is now entirely obvious and will clearly have profound impacts on life and the people in charge largely don’t give a shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269054) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 5:03 PM Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,; Dear America, the computers are on the verge of rising up to kill us all. Which boomer do you prefer to handle this problem—the almost 80 year old one who is incoherent any time he attempts to speak for more than 5 seconds or the 65 year old one that is also incoherent when she speaks and is very bad at taking standardized tests and likely has an IQ that’s barely above average at best? And when I address you as America, I of course don’t mean all American voters and especially not the ones that have a technical background that might help inform their choice. I only want to hear back from Americans who read below a 10th grade level and hate to think about any aspect of public policy or the government and love to watch short videos of people falling off of skateboards and jet skis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269050) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 5:05 PM Author: Nippon Professional Baseball link to ppl falling off skateboards and jet skis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269056) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 7:24 PM Author: potluck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269624) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 8:20 PM Author: $JFR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269787) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 8:28 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269803) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 8:31 PM Author: world war 3 Where are we on this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269810) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 9:22 PM Author: Epistemic Humility (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269969) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 10:55 PM Author: todd bonzalez (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48270272) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 5:41 PM Author: VoteTrump (A true Chad!! where's your gf/wifew?) its too helpful nobody sees the negs yet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269191) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 6:06 PM Author: magadood I really only see artists complaining about it impacting their work. Seems like everyone else is ok with it because it still makes mistakes and can’t do 100 percent of their work yet, so they’ll pretend it isn’t an issue until then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269287) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 8:29 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) people with real jobs: eh, even if it's not perfect, it's 80% of the way there and that's useful
"artists": WTF IT'S BETTER AT OUR "JOB" THAN US |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 5:43 PM Author: 718-662-5970 elections are designed precisely NOT to address any real issue.
when trump haphazardly mentioned immigration after coming down the escalator, the whole establishment began its 9-year-running assassination project.
Had he not bothered to run, immigration wouldnt even be discussed. Yeb and Hillary? Joe and Haley/Rubio/whoever?
Its all supposed to be about nonsense |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 5:46 PM Author: VoteTrump (A true Chad!! where's your gf/wifew?) what are the hidden issues? drones and AI? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269222) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 7:17 PM Author: Ass Sunstein Jews (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269600) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 8:21 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269789) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 7:32 PM Author: Gregor There are large number of people who would prefer it not be discussed. Most large companies have a small army of people testing AI software and thinking about AI software with no concrete ideas or use cases on the horizon. None of these people want anyone taking a hard look at AI because then the non tech people who hired them might get wise to the fact there is nothing there and really very little for them to do 52 weeks per year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269653) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 7:49 PM Author: ,.,,,.,,,,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,., The use case is having a drop in remote worker on demand. This isn’t a fantasy if the GPT-2 to 4 scale up can be done again in the next few years. The problem with modern LLMs is reliability. If that falls, expect a lot of jobs to go to machines. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269688) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 9:54 PM Author: corporate slave wandering down fluorescent hallway The problem is actually that they can’t “do” anything. It’s an advanced Wikipedia which is neat but to replace a worker it needs to actually send emails, draft docs, etc. That may sound relatively simple to you but it actually isn’t at all, which is why there’s nothing even close to it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48270099) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2024 12:07 AM Author: ,.,,,.,,,,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,., I think the last decade has been a consistent story of AI being easy, with problems going away with more data or training. I think another few years of the current scale up could make all of those tasks quite easy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48270478) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 9:24 PM Author: gibberish (?) I'm sure it will lead to terrible outcomes but in the short term it's pretty cool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48269981) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 10:04 PM Author: Wes Scantlin How to profit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48270129) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 10:07 PM Author: Your father's genitals, eye level, in the shower We need AI to have any chance at all of dealing with the aliens (and not the brown variety). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48270139) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 10:23 PM Author: Kenneth Play what do you see as the political question? the only thing i've seen is left-wing dems in california worried that the AI will kill everybody trying to stop research, and then normal people shutting them down so we don't fall behind in this nascent industry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48270182) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2024 1:28 PM Author: magadood Building out national compute infrastructure, trying to imagine what governance will look like when they exceed human intelligence, creation of large government controlled research groups. I don’t know. There are a lot of things on the table. We are being thrust into a sci fi future soon so it seems like we should do something or at least talk about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48271871) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2024 1:29 PM Author: Bill DaWall much like junk mail or seed oils or anything else in the us, someone, somewhere is making money off of it and thats the end of things. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5622666&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48271878) |