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Hypo: You catch everything you touch. Make D1 college FB team? NFL?
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:19 PM Author: Excitant zippy boltzmann market Any thrown football that you get at least 1 finger on, you will catch. Otherwise, you're you in terms of height, weight, speed, strength, etc.
Could you make a D1 college football roster? An NFL roster? Assume there are no eligibility issues and you can get any tryouts and camp invites you want. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:25 PM Author: Cheese-eating rigor does "you will catch" mean it will be ruled a catch no matter what, i.e., you maintain possession & control while in bounds? or does it simply mean that you will "catch" (in the colloquial sense) the ball, but immediately get met by massive cornerbacks/safeties who promptly take it from you?
if the former, you'll be drafted straight into the NFL and used in game-on-the-line situations in between injury recovery. |
Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:22 PM Author: Blathering Passionate Deer Antler i catch hiv and die within a year. rip :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155349) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:25 PM Author: orchid stage psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155377) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:26 PM Author: up-to-no-good concupiscible dilemma jew brother in christ, this is zurich. no you DO NOT die within 1 year of catching hiv (thank god lmao) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155392) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:22 PM Author: misanthropic pontificating persian main people easily, i'd be a pro-bowler brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155353) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:30 PM Author: Excitant zippy boltzmann market What would your stats be your first year in the league? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155408) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:34 PM Author: misanthropic pontificating persian main people 140 receptions, 1260 yards, but 100 YAC or less (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155438) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:23 PM Author: soul-stirring overrated coffee pot hairy legs no. receivers all have good hands. you need to speed and strength to get open, which is 98% of the position.
a d1 receiver would catch 100% of the balls thrown to him if he didn't have to contend with a defense. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:29 PM Author: Sexy curious school cafeteria cr. every single route you ran the DB would be smothering you. Youd have to stretch the hypo to find out -- do I still catch it with one finger touch IF the DB is also swatting it away, glued to my chest, both arms impeding every ball, threatening himself to intercept, etc?
Even with gorilla glue hands, I dont think you'd be able to catch much because youd never get a clear look to actually have the ball hit your hand.
so in effect, your special talent is wasted by your inability to get open
same is true of "making any basketball 3 pointer". Do defenders get to swat your shit every time? Bc at 5'11" and slow, they would be |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:31 PM Author: Blathering Passionate Deer Antler yeah I think that's implicit in "anything you touch"
if you touch it, it doesn't matter what the db does. ofc he would probably blanket you so bad you couldn't even get a hand on it in the first place |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:32 PM Author: Sexy curious school cafeteria so going with that reading, you need to get your hand through the DB to the ball, where you miraculously bring it in for a catch. Id say an xoer could do that <30% of the time, which is far worse than an average D1 receiver right now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155427) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:36 PM Author: soul-stirring overrated coffee pot hairy legs more like 0% of the time.
no middle aged balding lolyer is touching the ball in any capacity against a d1 corner. even if you somehow made it past the line of scrimage and somehow the qb had a perfect pocket and threw you the perfect pass, you are not touching that ball if any defender is within 10 yards of you. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:40 PM Author: Excitant zippy boltzmann market You don't need a perfect pass or to juke the dB out of his shoes on some nasty double move. Just run down the field, get a hand on the ball, and you catch it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155473) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:38 PM Author: Excitant zippy boltzmann market You catch 100% of everything you touch. Period. Even if the DB is grabbing your arms, but you still somehow manage to touch the ball, you still catch it.
If you're in the end zone at the time, end of story, it's a td. If you're not, the DB or another defender might be able to knock it loose or strip it before you get out of bounds, score, or are tackled. And they'll be more likely to be able to knock it loose if it's a one finger catch above your head than if it's a catch with two hands into your chest. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:38 PM Author: misanthropic pontificating persian main people this isn't about having to contend with a defense, all it calls for is merely touching the ball. NFL receivers touch the ball on nearly every throw that is near them, now imagine if they were catching all of those.
with creative play calling it's a nobrainer assuming you're in decent shape |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:41 PM Author: Excitant zippy boltzmann market CR. You'd be great on fade routes, hails mary... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155477) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:45 PM Author: misanthropic pontificating persian main people now that i think about it are injuries turned off for this hypo? because we'd all obviously get wrecked in the first quarter of the first game if not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155488) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:44 PM Author: soul-stirring overrated coffee pot hairy legs if you were five yards from tom brady with a d1 cb defending you he would not be able to peg you with the ball even if tb was throwing uncatchable darts just trying to touch you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155484) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:24 PM Author: Mildly autistic den Start my own Youtube channel doing trick catches (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155371) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:25 PM Author: orchid stage psychic TITCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155381) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:26 PM Author: Blathering Passionate Deer Antler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155393) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:25 PM Author: Violent startled codepig nfl
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:26 PM Author: supple regret sanctuary even if you only got used in goal line situations you would be a hall of famer
better use of the hypo is does this work if you play defense
also unclear if you get injured, if yes then this won't last long |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:30 PM Author: soul-stirring overrated coffee pot hairy legs you're insane. the average person is never getting one finger on the ball against a d1 defense. nfl is ljl.
imagine a balding lolyer trying to get a hand on the ball against deion sanders in his prime. when the jocks were playing keep-away with your calculator in high school, were you not able to retrieve it because you bobbled a catch? lmao. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:37 PM Author: Sexy curious school cafeteria yeah the more I think about it, i dont think an xoer gets off the line of scrimmage. DB bumps and impedes me, and I get tangled with him right there. Play is already over Im mired on the line.
Few times I get past him into an actual route, he's running a steel curtain over me every step. When the ball comes, Im not getting through him to touch/catch except in very rare circumstances. Id be the worst receiver in the league |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:45 PM Author: Excitant zippy boltzmann market I'd easily reach around the DB to touch the ball and catch it. The bigger problem is him forcing a fumble after I do.
What about playing at a lower D1 school? I'd be one of the better receivers on the team. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:33 PM Author: elite costumed indian lodge i'd ask israel for a few billion to be their iron dome replacement (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155428) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:37 PM Author: buck-toothed locus lol at how hard an xo poa would be wheezing after running two routes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155458) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:49 PM Author: stimulating kitchen idea he suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155515) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:39 PM Author: Amethyst erotic degenerate d1 football easy, especially if we're talking early 20s me. nfl? LJL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155469) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:46 PM Author: Excitant zippy boltzmann market CR. Huge drop off in DBs between NFL and non-big time college football. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155500) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 6:32 PM Author: Pea-brained bisexual shrine Chris Hogan did it without the magic hands
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hogan_(American_football) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:50 PM Author: stimulating kitchen idea he suggested The level of delusion in threads like these has been entertaining for decades (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155518) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:52 PM Author: soul-stirring overrated coffee pot hairy legs this is like asking if you'd be a professional goalie if you blocked every ball you touched. no, you wouldn't, you'd never touch the ball. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155526) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:55 PM Author: Boyish heaven lettuce I bet offense could design plays where 3 other bros give me an umbrella of protection for, e.g., quick 5 yard receptions. Just enough to get drilled with the ball while falling down. Seems worth it for short yardage plays. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155541) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 1:59 PM Author: Amethyst erotic degenerate you'd get physically destroyed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155562) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:12 PM Author: Boyish heaven lettuce I'd suck off the other players for the "Three Ps": protein, protection, and pleasure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155634) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:08 PM Author: Excitant zippy boltzmann market CR they do all kinds of pick plays these days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155611) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:29 PM Author: Cheese-eating rigor you'd be doing screens until everything goes dark and you wake up in the hospital following surgery. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155709) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:00 PM Author: insanely creepy drunken native water buffalo gunneratttt is amazingly autistic. one of the best we have ever seen. yet he has a sense of humor. this is one for the dsm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155572) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:23 PM Author: soul-stirring overrated coffee pot hairy legs i refuse to play along with the farce that balding poasters could ever touch a ball in d1 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155680) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:41 PM Author: Cheese-eating rigor they'd re-purpose some 450 lb OTs as TEs who are effectively your bodyguards (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155769) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 3:14 PM Author: soul-stirring overrated coffee pot hairy legs doesn't matter. pro players can already catch most balls that are catchable. the problem is getting into a position where you have a reasonable chance to touch the ball without it being intercepted. if the "wall of 450lb linemen" tactic worked they would have used this with jerry rice.
imagine a balding 40 y/o lawyer getting a finger on the ball as 450lb 6'6 dindus scuffled around them. you'd snap both your legs trying before you laid one finger on the ball. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 5:13 PM Author: insanely creepy drunken native water buffalo bro, and I mean this sincerely, we probably couldn't play any position in the nfl at all. Very few balding lawyers have a 1 in 3 shot of going prime. You gakking out about this is amusing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48156378) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 5:31 PM Author: Cheese-eating rigor Jeff Feagles was literally balding and retired from the NFL 10 years before becoming eligible for medicare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48156456) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:11 PM Author: Excitant zippy boltzmann market I'd be a 2 way player in college. As a corner, all you have to do is touch the ball and you're going the other way for 6.
In the NFL, I'd be more limited. Probably just offense and a limited number of short yardage plays, red zone plays, and pick plays. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:26 PM Author: Outnumbered poppy boiling water tank Everyone ITT is too old, slow and weak for catching skills to be relevant. Even if you somehow got enough space to catch the ball, you'd get immediately injured during the tackle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155692) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:45 PM Author: stimulating kitchen idea he suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155781) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 2:35 PM Author: Slate Partner Ticket Booth MOAR interesting to me:
You have magical ability to get 3 yards open as a wide receiver, but you otherwise have your current athletic ability. Current hands, etc.
Id say, with your magic 3 yard window and a QB throwing an NFL calibre pass to you in that window, you still drop over 80% of targeted passes, making you among the worst receivers ever.
And "all" you have to do is extend your arms, receive the pass, and pull it in within about a second.
NFL passes come in something like hardball pitches, anywhere within a square, fast and hard as hell. And you have to get your hands there, catch a firing meteor, and control it, while you are running, and conscious of a bullet train heading at you from ~three yards away. Majority of these balls are also over your head, so your elevating in full fb pads to get your hands up to the right place in like 0.2 seconds. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 3:39 PM Author: soul-stirring overrated coffee pot hairy legs yeah. this is exactly why usain bolt never made millions as a wr.
even if you extended the hypo to "and your QB was able to lob you an easily catchable pass" every poaster here would land in the ER in a couple games. |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 3:03 PM Author: bossy theater stage MLB second baseman. Much longer shelf life. No CTE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155861) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 3:40 PM Author: soul-stirring overrated coffee pot hairy legs doesn't matter if you were the best second basemen in history if you're batting .000, which is every single poaster. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48156046) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 3:15 PM Author: Angry Arrogant Ratface soccer goalkeeper (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48155916) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 4:50 PM Author: sepia titillating institution No poaster would make a D1 team. Everyone would be cut within an hour of their tryout once it was apparent they don’t have the athletic ability. Unlikely that anyone even gets the chance to receive a pass at a tryout. That being said, if I were somehow placed on a D1 team and somehow placed on the field and somehow thrown at, I could make a couple catches until getting injured or the defense deciding to actually cover me at all. If covered, I would have a reasonable chance of making some catches against man coverage on timing routes where I would give no indication that the ball was being thrown to me, only to extend my arm at the exact split second. On zone coverage I could make catches on curl routes against soft coverage if I broke hard back towards the LOS for minimal gain but would have no chance of doing so in short yardage situations. Overall, this attribute would provide no material benefit for a football career. Source: played a little college ball, am 6’3, 99th percentile physique (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48156292) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 5:15 PM Author: buck-toothed locus "wow it worked!"
*2 milliseconds after xo poa gets finger on ball and 2 milliseconds before an nfl grade hit decapitates them* |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 5:24 PM Author: heady home toaster this hypo is dumb because everyone who knows anything about football knows catching is the trivial and easy part of being a receiver. the hard part is getting open. and no poaster is doing that at the d1 or nfl level. probably not even much at lower levels of college football. this skill wouldn't be useful unless you're playing low level high school teams. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48156420) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 5:26 PM Author: Violent startled codepig this is bullshit nfl receivers all have elite hands. its the a1a of the position and not nearly as easy as it looks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48156431) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 5:28 PM Author: heady home toaster i didn't say the best receivers in the world don't have good hands. but that it's not as important as getting open against some of the speediest and most agile athletes around (nfl cbs) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48156441) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 5:29 PM Author: Violent startled codepig they only get to the nfl because they can catch not because theyre sprinters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48156446) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 5:34 PM Author: heady home toaster sprinters don't necessarily make good wr. you have to have high top end speed (which sprinters have) but also the agility to run a route precisely. body control and leaping ability are important too. all these skills get you open
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 5:39 PM Author: Cheese-eating rigor Catching and getting open are trivial & easy compared to a QB actually assessing the coverage and throwing a catchable ball to a WR. Every WR can catch and has made many spectacular catches previously. Getting open is slightly harder as it depends on the route and coverage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48156501) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 5:41 PM Author: heady home toaster my point is that even if you have magic hands that can catch every ball you touch, that doesn't help you at all because you're not getting open
not sure why you're talking about QBs |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 5:51 PM Author: Cheese-eating rigor QBs don't matter in this analysis because getting open is irrelevant when you can catch any ball. Having magic hands that enable you to catch anything that you can touch means it doesn't matter if you've got double coverage--as long as you can make it to the end zone (which is the only time you'd ever play in this hypo), you're going to catch the ball. The QB just has to be able to accurately throw it 2 feet in front of wherever you'll be when the ball gets there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48156546) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 6:01 PM Author: heady home toaster do you think xo poasters -- whether they're balding 40-something lawyers or 6'3", 99th percentile athletes who played a little college ball -- are going to touch a ball thrown two feet in front of them when guarded by a nfl or college cb? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48156578) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 8:59 PM Author: Excitant zippy boltzmann market All you need to do is touch the ball, you don't need to be "open" in the way a receiver normally does, and it's PI if the defender hits you before you touch it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48157110) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2024 9:56 PM Author: heady home toaster Have you ever seen a cornerback "run a receiver's route" for him? It happens when a cb guesses right out of a break or a receiver slips a bit. that will happen on every route the poaster runs. NFL or d1 CBS are fast and agile as fuck. they will beat you to the ball (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48157344) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2024 4:20 PM Author: Cheese-eating rigor yeah but you seem to be missing the point of the hypo: the "magic hands" component shakes things up significantly. Defense will always need to have at least one person covering you--always. That leaves other talent without sufficient coverage to make plays. This isn't exactly like a Yao Ming type of situation where some freakishly tall dude (even among basketball players) lands an NBA contract despite having no experience playing the game. It's more akin to a midget who can always make a basket from anywhere on the court playing the game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48160165) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2024 5:12 PM Author: heady home toaster have you ever heard of zone defense? you'd only have a guy covering you in man defense. around you they'd be able to play off quite a bit, helping to defend the run or cover other receivers, because they're fast and can recover to cover you when the ball is on its way.
i'm trying to think of a play where this hypo helps. let's say you were isolated on one side of the field and tried to go deep. you're way slower than a real wr so the pass rush would get to the qb while he's waiting for you to finish your route. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2024 7:23 PM Author: Cheese-eating rigor zone defense likely wouldn't be used, especially if the QB is highly accurate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48160764) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2024 1:31 AM Author: Emerald area id be a pro bowl fullback (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5605243&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310915",#48157821) |