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Why is closing Straight of Hormuz a big deal? Why no pipeline around it to Oman?
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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:21 AM Author: Grizzly jap There are long-distance pipelines all over the Middle East, including across Saudi Arabia to the Red Sea. https://theodora.com/pipelines/middle_east_pipelines_map.jpg Why hasn't anyone extended the pipeline network to Oman?
Iran closes or threatens to close the Straight of Hormuz all the time. |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:33 AM Author: Pungent cruel-hearted azn iran has never closed the strait before. they threaten to though even that is rare, but this is the first time they've actually closed it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49767871) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:54 AM Author: Grizzly jap A very small amount of foresight and care to address this would have gone a long way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49767941) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:42 PM Author: Avocado Concupiscible Location Kitty they fucked around with it for most of the 1980s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanker_war |
Date: March 25th, 2026 11:25 AM Author: ultramarine foreskin stead the last time they did it was 1980 and it was only partial.
i think the obvious answer is that a pipeline that long through the desert would be expensive and unnecessary with the strait right there, and people don't like to spend money on shit until it becomes necessary. think about all the shit we should but don't do because it's easier to kick the can down the lane. |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:32 AM Author: Grizzly jap It's their big bargaining chip, and they're always threatening to do it.
The Habshan–Fujairah pipeline "only" cost $3.3B to build 10-15 years ago and is 220 miles long. Even a 4x longer pipeline at 2x the cost per mile would "only" be $25B. That's about the amount of direct US costs for this war so far. |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:36 AM Author: ultramarine foreskin stead seems like a good idea to me and you would think that when a looming threat is realized they would finally do it. but after covid scarcity of critical things and no significant push afterwards to make sure we're self sufficient later, i have little faith in people doing common sense things when it's immediately more profitable not to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49767881) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:40 AM Author: Grizzly jap cr. No will to do anything or to have any future-time orientation as a society or a government. It's hard to imagine this is the same country that built interstate highways and powerlines out to rural homes.
It's wild because (a) money is more fraud and fake than ever before post-covid money printer ($25B is nothing any more) and (b) it seems completely obvious that, with increasing global strife, and ME strife in particular, that you'd want a pipeline around the strait. |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:48 AM Author: ultramarine foreskin stead money being fake is part of the problem. it feels like the decline of rome when all the elites gave up on civic virtue and just looted because they could see the writing on the wall. people don't build things for the future when they have no faith in the future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49767918) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:55 AM Author: Grizzly jap $25B for a pipeline would have been a great investment and would have let the bacchanal continue for a few more years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49767944) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:02 PM Author: ultramarine foreskin stead future historians will be puzzled by this and many other things, just like we are today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49767971) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:22 PM Author: Grizzly jap Sad stuff. "Why doesn't he fight back?" and all that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768044) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:22 PM Author: ultramarine foreskin stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768047) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:43 PM Author: Avocado Concupiscible Location Kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768078) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 9:17 PM Author: umber tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49769320) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:34 AM Author: umber tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49767873) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:52 AM Author: hateful odious casino There's this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habshan%E2%80%93Fujairah_oil_pipeline
Only 1.5 million barrel/day capacity, though- about 1/4 that of the Saudi pipeline to the Red Sea. |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:05 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle fighting internal respiration electric furnace Maybe I'm retarded, but couldn't Iran easily attack a pipeline? It seems easier to disrupt than a body of water. Not saying there shouldn't be multiple systems to distribute oil, but I'm not convinced it helps much here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49767981) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:19 PM Author: ultramarine foreskin stead seems a lot easier to defend land than water. although maybe that defense infrastructure is part of the problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768028) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:24 PM Author: hateful odious casino You'd think so, but they haven't done so with the Saudi pipeline. Maybe it's easy to repair. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768051) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:26 PM Author: Grizzly jap Iran feels it has some dominion over the strait and a right to control it. Attacking infrastructure on/under the ground in another sovereign country is another level of aggression. They've shown a willingness to go to that level, of course, but it's still a different level. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768057) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:30 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle fighting internal respiration electric furnace This is a strong point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768061) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:40 PM Author: Grizzly jap Do we have any maritime law experts who can weigh in on Iran's rights here? Have they consulted with counsel? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768073) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 3:28 PM Author: ultramarine foreskin stead international maritime courts are shut down because of the government shutdown. all part of trumps grand 8-D strategy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768436) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 4:22 PM Author: Grizzly jap Can we get an injunction here? A TRO to preserve the status quo? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768582) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 4:31 PM Author: ultramarine foreskin stead because of the shutdown only israelis are permitted to petition the courts at this time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768611) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:16 PM Author: hairraiser abode maybe I'm totally dumb but I always wondered why they didn't make some massive canal through the UAE 100s of miles from the "straight" to avoid this issue (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768019) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:24 PM Author: appetizing infuriating stage rigpig that's why this shit is so absurd. These oil countries have been making trillions of $$$ for decades while knowing the Straight of Hormuz is the most important choke point in the world (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768052) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:36 PM Author: Grizzly jap This is what I'm saying. They have the unlimited money spigot going. There is a potentially combative Shia country--that is regularly provoked by the US and Israel--who has the power to slow down that spigot for all these Sunni/non-Shia countries (SA, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Oman). And they didn't take a tiny fraction of that unlimited money spigot flow to mitigate the inevitability that Iran would close the strait. Instead, they're paying billions for washed up soccer stars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768072) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 1:01 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle fighting internal respiration electric furnace To some extent I think it's a human capital issue. The oil rich ME nations basically need western talent to capitalize on their resources. They seemingly aren't up to the task to make better strategic decisions with the wealth these resources generate.
They all think they need to "pivot away from oil" and create a broader economy. And the only way they can think to do this is by overspending on vanity projects (i.e. Ronaldo, impossible city projects like The Line that are sold to them by consultants who are simply milking them for fees, etc.) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 1:12 PM Author: hairraiser abode just googled it. At its widest the UAE is 250 miles wide.
Just go a little north. Just googled the drive from ras al-khaimah to dibba UAE, and even on some round about ass way that it not at all a straight line it is a 47 mile drive
BAM, problem solved. |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 1:18 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle fighting internal respiration electric furnace Now imagine a country with an average IQ of 90 trying to do this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768122) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 1:51 PM Author: umber tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768190) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 2:34 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle fighting internal respiration electric furnace They benefit from the broader network of higher IQ jews internationally. And I assume they have a larger pool of 120+ IQ jews within their borders as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768294) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 3:12 PM Author: hairraiser abode panama canal is 50 miles wide (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768384) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 2:18 PM Author: Grizzly jap Did no one do the simple excercise of brainstorming "what are the 5 most significant threats to our unlimited black gold oil spigot and what can we do to mitigate them?" They don't have to engineer the pipeline. They just needed to decide to proactively address this and hire someone to do so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768258) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:31 PM Author: rusted indian lodge goal in life theyre arabs, (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49768062) |
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Date: March 25th, 2026 9:17 PM Author: Dead ruddy weed whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2\u0026mark_id=5310918#49769318) |