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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
racy spot
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just walk outside bro
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar s...
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it was a nanny state.
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: racy spot

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Provocative trust fund

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Provocative trust fund

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Provocative trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Provocative trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Provocative trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49172980)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49421817)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49421862)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49421881)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49422254)



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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49424474)



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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49425035)



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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49425543)



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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49427654)



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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49436681)



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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49436785)



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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49439167)



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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM
Author: Provocative trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49441985)



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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49454945)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM
Author: Provocative trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49455274)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49484240)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49484832)



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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49492316)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49493000)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49495268)



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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49497250)



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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49500993)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Unholy Theatre Brethren

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Massive boyish stage azn

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Unholy Theatre Brethren

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Massive boyish stage azn

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Unholy Theatre Brethren

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: self-centered locale rigpig

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: filthy heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: hairraiser shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: shimmering galvanic mood principal's office

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: startled stag film

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: iridescent party of the first part indirect expression

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: self-centered locale rigpig

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: lake heady new version

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: green comical crackhouse mad cow disease

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Slippery casino sex offender

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49105022)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: razzle mustard liquid oxygen hairy legs

It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49421865)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: Marvelous frisky parlour

it was a nanny state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49458174)



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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: Jared Baumeister is a cow who welches on bets

Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr",#49495273)