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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Heady Codepig Church
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor
  12/16/25
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Heady Codepig Church
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Filthy concupiscible university
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Filthy concupiscible university
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Filthy concupiscible university
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Heady Codepig Church
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Filthy concupiscible university
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
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Heady Codepig Church
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cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Orchid Deer Antler
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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Orchid Deer Antler
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
cobalt dysfunction address
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Turquoise laughsome coffee pot
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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Heady Codepig Church
  12/17/25
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Heady Codepig Church
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Filthy concupiscible university
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Stirring shaky field faggot firefighter
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Heady Codepig Church



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Heady Codepig Church

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Filthy concupiscible university

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Filthy concupiscible university

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Filthy concupiscible university

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Heady Codepig Church

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Filthy concupiscible university

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Filthy concupiscible university

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Heady Codepig Church



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Orchid Deer Antler

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Orchid Deer Antler



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: cobalt dysfunction address

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Turquoise laughsome coffee pot

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: aquamarine charismatic mediation stag film

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Heady Codepig Church



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy School Bbw

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Buck-toothed sinister whorehouse generalized bond

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: cyan meetinghouse fortuitous meteor



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy School Bbw



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Heady Codepig Church



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Heady Codepig Church



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Filthy concupiscible university

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Stirring shaky field faggot firefighter

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49515738)