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Has anyone in history reached the level of worldwide fame Michael Jackson did?

Not even Jesus is on his level
Citrine appetizing international law enforcement agency
  10/16/25
he's not even the most famous person with "MJ" ini...
Vigorous Domesticated Orchestra Pit
  10/16/25
Elvis was bigger than MJ 🙄
Elite church electric furnace
  10/16/25
worldwide it’s michael and its not even close
Citrine appetizing international law enforcement agency
  10/16/25
Can’t argue with that, Chang
ocher partner
  10/16/25
WRONG https://static.dw.com/image/40162725_1004.webp
Elite church electric furnace
  10/16/25
...
Citrine appetizing international law enforcement agency
  10/16/25
youre being sloppy with your categories and numbers i pre...
racy round eye step-uncle's house
  10/16/25
let’s narrow it to at the peak of their fame, name rec...
Citrine appetizing international law enforcement agency
  10/16/25
Trump and it's not even remotely close
Vigorous Domesticated Orchestra Pit
  10/16/25
There is a stratosphere of "globally recognizable"...
racy round eye step-uncle's house
  10/16/25
You’re a fucking retard and you’re over complica...
Citrine appetizing international law enforcement agency
  10/16/25
while still alive is an important component and you are not ...
Vigorous Domesticated Orchestra Pit
  10/16/25
Taylor Swift is basically at that level rn
frozen heaven
  10/16/25
she’s not on Michael’s level at his peak no sorr...
Citrine appetizing international law enforcement agency
  10/16/25
you are so fucking weird
Vigorous Domesticated Orchestra Pit
  10/16/25
She never had the universal appeal of MJ in the 80s.
Elite church electric furnace
  10/16/25
Right. Swift fans are a certain type. But everyone loved Mic...
mewling friendly grandma
  10/16/25
but her fans are more devoted on average, so i'd say it's at...
iridescent motley bawdyhouse
  10/16/25
Would jet black Congo ophthalmologists know Taylor? I guess ...
sexy range
  10/16/25
...
iridescent motley bawdyhouse
  10/16/25
Even old people knew MJ. Nobody over 50 has any idea who Ta...
Hairless skinny woman gas station
  10/21/25
Theres something about music thats different to say a film/m...
vivacious sick senate coldplay fan
  10/16/25
Toddlers also know "SP" before seeing him but that...
sexy range
  10/16/25
How would toddlers know who spaceporn is? Do toddlers read...
Elite church electric furnace
  10/16/25
When the lights go out in the playroom, they know
sexy range
  10/16/25
jfc SP
fluffy concupiscible ladyboy
  10/16/25
I think Michael Jordan got pretty close
mewling friendly grandma
  10/16/25
yeah he's the first one i think of for counter examples. ...
racy round eye step-uncle's house
  10/16/25
get out of my thread you insufferable autist
Citrine appetizing international law enforcement agency
  10/16/25
Jordan is a good one
Citrine appetizing international law enforcement agency
  10/16/25
I don't think most goat herders in Mongolia knew who he is
obsidian library deer antler
  10/21/25
Trump obviously
Crimson lettuce
  10/16/25
LORD BYRON
Emerald 180 Travel Guidebook Center
  10/21/25
cr. he was famous worldwide at a time before tv, radio, etc....
Fishy Alpha
  10/21/25
last 50 years? Other than MJ, probably Trump and Elvis
obsidian library deer antler
  10/21/25
Muhammad Ali was more famous than Michael Jackson.
exhilarant abnormal boistinker ticket booth
  10/21/25
Religious figures don't count, Trumpkin.
Elite church electric furnace
  10/21/25
Trump
Topaz mental disorder newt
  10/21/25
Man, fuck these other comments. You're GODDAMN RIGHT that th...
Sienna cuckoldry
  10/21/25
Michael Jackson and Madonna wouldn't have been able to walk ...
cerebral point
  10/21/25
he wasnt even the most famous during his century. Elvis and ...
Fishy Alpha
  10/21/25
Did people in Asia and Africa even know about Elvis and the ...
Hairless skinny woman gas station
  10/21/25
who cares what they think. the world is America and Europe.
Fishy Alpha
  10/21/25


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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:48 AM
Author: Citrine appetizing international law enforcement agency

Not even Jesus is on his level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352666)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:56 AM
Author: Vigorous Domesticated Orchestra Pit

he's not even the most famous person with "MJ" initials you tranny retard. you just like him because he was a disgusting pedo just like you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352673)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:49 AM
Author: Elite church electric furnace

Elvis was bigger than MJ 🙄

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352668)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: Citrine appetizing international law enforcement agency

worldwide it’s michael and its not even close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352669)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:12 AM
Author: ocher partner

Can’t argue with that, Chang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352705)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:17 AM
Author: Elite church electric furnace

WRONG

https://static.dw.com/image/40162725_1004.webp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352714)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: Citrine appetizing international law enforcement agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352716)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: racy round eye step-uncle's house

youre being sloppy with your categories and numbers

i presume you mean "in his lifetime", and so of course Jesus is out of the conversation

and i also presume you mean total headcount of people who recognize this celebrity. so, naturally, anyone famous in an era of mass communication and a global pop over 5 billion is going to win.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352671)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:59 AM
Author: Citrine appetizing international law enforcement agency

let’s narrow it to at the peak of their fame, name recognition, face recognition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352679)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:01 AM
Author: Vigorous Domesticated Orchestra Pit

Trump and it's not even remotely close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352683)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: racy round eye step-uncle's house

There is a stratosphere of "globally recognizable" and then all these unimportant, noisy factors like

- were there 8 billion people on earth, or only 6.9 billion (2001)

- how many chinks had internet access

etc

Every year there are more humans, and every year there is more distribution of media

So 2025 people will beat 2017 people, etc.

Does that make them "moar famous"? Mathematically, I guess.

I think the only meaningful thing to do is to acknowledge that a small group have reached "global fame while alive".

Popes, potuses, pop stars, soccer stars.

Again, presuming this whole convo is bracketed by 'while still alive'. Otherwise obv Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352719)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: Citrine appetizing international law enforcement agency

You’re a fucking retard and you’re over complicating this because you’re an autist. I told you upthread all we need to measure is percentage of worldwide name recognition and face recognition at their peak

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352793)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:00 PM
Author: Vigorous Domesticated Orchestra Pit

while still alive is an important component and you are not explaining it clearly because you are a retarded tranny pedophile.

while still alive = Trump (not remotely close)

all time = Jesus (also not remotely close)

michael fucking jackson couldn't hold trumps nutsack and you are a retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49353115)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: frozen heaven

Taylor Swift is basically at that level rn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352681)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:03 AM
Author: Citrine appetizing international law enforcement agency

she’s not on Michael’s level at his peak no sorry

she’s absolutely the most famous living pop star though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352686)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:04 AM
Author: Vigorous Domesticated Orchestra Pit

you are so fucking weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352688)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: Elite church electric furnace

She never had the universal appeal of MJ in the 80s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352718)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: mewling friendly grandma

Right. Swift fans are a certain type. But everyone loved Michael Jackson

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352748)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: iridescent motley bawdyhouse

but her fans are more devoted on average, so i'd say it's at the same level overall. at the very least it's worldwide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49353171)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:23 AM
Author: sexy range

Would jet black Congo ophthalmologists know Taylor? I guess they all have obamaphones so I guess so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352726)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: iridescent motley bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49353168)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:42 AM
Author: Hairless skinny woman gas station

Even old people knew MJ. Nobody over 50 has any idea who Taylor Swift is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49363758)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:07 AM
Author: vivacious sick senate coldplay fan

Theres something about music thats different to say a film/movie star like Tom Cruise/Brad Pitt etc where, even if some third worlder hasnt seen him live or on a TV, they're deeply familiar w the work and it transcends that person as a product, they become ethereal

sound gay but even toddlers would know "MJ" just from the beats before they ever saw him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352692)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:22 AM
Author: sexy range

Toddlers also know "SP" before seeing him but that doesn't make him the most famous ever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352725)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:24 AM
Author: Elite church electric furnace

How would toddlers know who spaceporn is? Do toddlers read xo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352735)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: sexy range

When the lights go out in the playroom, they know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352807)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: fluffy concupiscible ladyboy

jfc SP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352964)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: mewling friendly grandma

I think Michael Jordan got pretty close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352745)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:33 AM
Author: racy round eye step-uncle's house

yeah he's the first one i think of for counter examples.

he reached the absolute pinnacle and there was nothing he could have done to increase recognition. he spanned the globe.

BUT he peaked during a smaller global pop and before the internet, so someone lesser than he, but who is famous today, would surpass his headcount.

you just need to identify the handful of people who maxed out, and he was one of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352754)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: Citrine appetizing international law enforcement agency

get out of my thread you insufferable autist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352971)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: Citrine appetizing international law enforcement agency

Jordan is a good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49352970)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:30 AM
Author: obsidian library deer antler

I don't think most goat herders in Mongolia knew who he is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49363732)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: Crimson lettuce

Trump obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49353162)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: Emerald 180 Travel Guidebook Center

LORD BYRON

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49363722)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: Fishy Alpha

cr. he was famous worldwide at a time before tv, radio, etc..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49363921)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: obsidian library deer antler

last 50 years? Other than MJ, probably Trump and Elvis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49363733)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: exhilarant abnormal boistinker ticket booth

Muhammad Ali was more famous than Michael Jackson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49363752)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:46 AM
Author: Elite church electric furnace

Religious figures don't count, Trumpkin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49363763)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: Topaz mental disorder newt

Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49363755)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: Sienna cuckoldry

Man, fuck these other comments. You're GODDAMN RIGHT that the king of pop tops all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49363756)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: cerebral point

Michael Jackson and Madonna wouldn't have been able to walk down an alley in Madagascar without being screamed at and having their songs sung during their prime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49363759)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:41 PM
Author: Fishy Alpha

he wasnt even the most famous during his century. Elvis and Beatles have him beat. maybe sinatra.

as for all of history op is clearly flame. but off top of my head: Jesus, Alexander, George Washington, napoleon, Byron, Shakespeare, etc...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49363934)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 6:55 PM
Author: Hairless skinny woman gas station

Did people in Asia and Africa even know about Elvis and the Beatles? I feel like they were more aware of Jackson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49364860)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 8:06 PM
Author: Fishy Alpha

who cares what they think. the world is America and Europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49364972)