\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Salmon irradiated hall fat ankles
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Concupiscible crimson karate
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
Concupiscible crimson karate
  05/29/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  06/03/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  06/08/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  07/01/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  07/03/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  07/06/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  07/08/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  07/13/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  07/14/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  07/16/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  07/20/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  07/24/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  07/29/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  07/30/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  08/04/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  08/10/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/11/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/11/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/11/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/11/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/12/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/12/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/13/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/13/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/16/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/16/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/17/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/18/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/23/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/24/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/24/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/24/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/26/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/26/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/26/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/27/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  11/28/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  12/02/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  12/04/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  12/04/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  12/07/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  12/08/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  12/08/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  12/09/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  12/10/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  12/16/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  12/18/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  12/21/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  12/22/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  12/24/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  12/28/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  12/28/25
...
Concupiscible crimson karate
  12/29/25
...
nyuug
  01/04/26
...
nyuug
  01/06/26
Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
mind-boggling purple ticket booth
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
180 selfie senate
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
mind-boggling purple ticket booth
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
180 selfie senate
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
mind-boggling purple ticket booth
  05/29/25
Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
hairless heady patrolman
  07/01/25
...
House-broken hairraiser dog poop
  07/13/25
...
thirsty stead
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
godawful kitty library
  05/29/25
cq
Effete Razzle-dazzle Circlehead Den
  05/29/25
I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
Razzmatazz Piazza
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
hairless heady patrolman
  07/02/25
...
pontificating telephone parlour
  12/18/25
i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
hateful codepig hissy fit
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
yapping azn trailer park
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
racy navy kitchen
  07/16/25
It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar s...
Turquoise bearded spot liquid oxygen
  11/11/25
it was a nanny state.
Overrated Bawdyhouse
  11/24/25
Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a sett...
Turquoise bearded spot liquid oxygen
  12/08/25
actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts four...
racy navy kitchen
  12/18/25


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Salmon irradiated hall fat ankles

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#23393887)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#48969812)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#48969813)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#48985020)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#48997575)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49064860)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49070377)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49077411)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49084518)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49098591)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49101058)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49105012)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49117359)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49128622)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49141968)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49143857)



Reply Favorite

Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49156580)



Reply Favorite

Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49172980)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49421817)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49421862)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49421881)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49422254)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49424474)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49425035)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49425543)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49427654)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49436681)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49436785)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49439167)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49441985)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49454945)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49455274)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49457596)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49458108)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49461550)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49463581)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49464738)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49466319)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49467160)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49478445)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49484240)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49484832)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49492316)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49493000)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49495268)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49497250)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49500993)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49515504)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49518561)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49529071)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49532458)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49536032)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 28th, 2025 6:54 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49545634)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 28th, 2025 7:05 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49545665)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Concupiscible crimson karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49548639)



Reply Favorite

Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49562700)



Reply Favorite

Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49567730)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: mind-boggling purple ticket booth

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#48969854)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: 180 selfie senate

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#48969860)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: mind-boggling purple ticket booth

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#48969863)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: 180 selfie senate

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#48969954)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: mind-boggling purple ticket booth

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#48971066)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: hairless heady patrolman

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49065184)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: House-broken hairraiser dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49098592)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: thirsty stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49098608)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: godawful kitty library

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#48970037)



Reply Favorite

Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Effete Razzle-dazzle Circlehead Den

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#48970041)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Piazza

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#48985033)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: hairless heady patrolman

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49065206)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM
Author: pontificating telephone parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49518664)



Reply Favorite

Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: hateful codepig hissy fit

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#48997602)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: yapping azn trailer park

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49065026)



Reply Favorite

Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: racy navy kitchen

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49105022)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: Turquoise bearded spot liquid oxygen

It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49421865)



Reply Favorite

Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: Overrated Bawdyhouse

it was a nanny state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49458174)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: Turquoise bearded spot liquid oxygen

Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49495273)



Reply Favorite

Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM
Author: racy navy kitchen

actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts

foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49518563)