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Do you guys remember that 9th Cir argument about fees? (epah)
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:45 PM Author: Vigorous khaki regret We won today. They said I'm basically like Clarence Darrow and Gerry Spence, so we should get biglol fees at a minimum.
Edit: This is a community account btw, and I want to express my gratitude to the account owner who's letting me use it for the day. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 5:13 PM Author: shimmering multi-billionaire get a real job you old as fuck mormon weirdo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692383) |
Date: February 24th, 2026 1:48 PM Author: flirting lettuce congrats ballpark the windfall for us |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:51 PM Author: Vigorous khaki regret Not all that much. Maybe end up with $4-5M in fees on remand. But we have another case behind it where we're 8,000 hours in, so it'll be good for that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49691809) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:53 PM Author: flirting lettuce nice, it all adds up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49691822) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 5:09 PM Author: Adventurous doctorate hissy fit 4 million here, 4 million there, soon you're talking real money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692369) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 5:04 AM Author: Vigorous khaki regret CSLG makes that much per month, and he went to TTTexas. But whatever it’s fine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49693719) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:50 PM Author: Free-loading clear space people who are hurt nice job dude. we need to hang out when I’m in Hawaii later this year (libpumo) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49691804) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:51 PM Author: Vigorous khaki regret Ty. I know a great spot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49691816) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:58 PM Author: Free-loading clear space people who are hurt nice bro. we can tag team my wife too if you want. she’s white but loves successful litigators. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49691853) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 4:58 PM Author: Vigorous khaki regret Perfect! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692339) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:56 PM Author: Histrionic institution 180 lawyering (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49691847) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:57 PM Author: Out-of-control contagious theater Not a lawfag what happened (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49691852) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 2:00 PM Author: Mint gaped police squad Poasters made millions and billions chasing commas all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49691861) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 2:27 PM Author: exhilarant nofapping dog poop base 🤙 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49691971) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 2:42 PM Author: House-broken impertinent athletic conference internal respiration Congrats! What was the other side's argument? That small firm lawyers should get fees adjusted downward accordingly?
Did you have instances of clients paying you hourly rates (not contingency) similar to biglaw to show that the market says you're worth it? |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 3:01 PM Author: Vigorous khaki regret Yeah that was the argument of both the other side and the dc judge. But CA9 was like, nah this guy is like Darrow and Spence.
As to the second question … *sucks teeth* THATS IRRELEVANT!! |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 3:05 PM Author: House-broken impertinent athletic conference internal respiration ljl 180
Did the other side make that second point--anyone can say they're worth biglaw rates. But if clients' aren't hiring you at biglaw rates, you ain't actually worth biglaw rates? What did 9th C say about that? |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 3:38 PM Author: Vigorous khaki regret There’s already plenty of CA9 precedent (implied by SCOTUS’s opinion in 1988 fees cases) holding that the actual rates charged aren’t relevant. I don’t think it even came up again in the appellate stage of this case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692135) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 5:22 PM Author: House-broken impertinent athletic conference internal respiration Whoa. What's the reasoning? Example citation? "Actual fees charged aren't relevant" sounds like huge legal reasoning fraudlies. I'd think that would be highly relevant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692407) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 8:34 PM Author: Vigorous khaki regret Does your Westlaw have the AI plug-in? Just ask it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692836) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 9:39 AM Author: House-broken impertinent athletic conference internal respiration I'm an in house mo. I haven't been on Westlaw in years. I'm not sure we even have access. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49693951) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 2:44 PM Author: Charismatic shivering nursing home factory reset button gj but I don't even see how there's room for debate on this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692018) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 3:40 PM Author: Claret Bawdyhouse What was your 180 line where you elegantly lisped something like "With all due respect, I basically am the Gerry Spence of Class Action Antitrust Litigation" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692142) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 4:00 PM Author: Vigorous khaki regret The laugh line was more me fumbling and lisping about how I hate to be immodest, but; and then Judge Mendoza saying, “you’re great, we get it.”
My preferred lisping line was one I borrowed from Trump, saying that it makes no sense to award lower rates to us than to “parters at big law firms who no one has ever heard of; no one has ever even heard their name.” |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 5:23 PM Author: House-broken impertinent athletic conference internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692410) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 7:34 PM Author: Claret Bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692690) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 7:36 PM Author: soul-stirring national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692702) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 8:26 PM Author: wine point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692819) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 1:18 PM Author: rebellious electric chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49694445) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 1:37 PM Author: Mint gaped police squad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49696984) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 4:03 PM Author: Mischievous hospital candlestick maker you fucked up your family, and now you’ll keep trying to fuck up American society
yuge win |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:10 PM Author: soul-stirring national Nah fam you gotta separate the art from the artist. EPAH obviously mutilated his children and maimed them for life but he is a great attorney and a good friend. Let's give credit where credit is due. He's a 180 inspiring lawyer. You don't even know enough about law to know how 180 EPAH is at law my dude. To put it in terms your feeble mind might understand he's like the Payton Pritchard of 9th circuit appellate lawmos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692523) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:22 PM Author: fragrant twisted tanning salon He got gaped on a case he never should have brought because he didn't know what "taxes" were (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692554) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:24 PM Author: soul-stirring national Who did? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692558) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 7:18 PM Author: fragrant twisted tanning salon EPAH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692646) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 8:35 PM Author: Vigorous khaki regret ? Just two Tuesdays ago the court ordered $11.8M to be wired from the court's registry to us. Check out the last entry on the docket. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692841) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 1:38 PM Author: Mint gaped police squad (Swisha in-house counsel) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49696990) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 5:48 AM Author: Mischievous hospital candlestick maker I know enough about shitlibs and the American legal system to know that both need to be burnt to the ground so that we can have a great country (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49693729) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 4:05 PM Author: Stimulating Elastic Band EPAH cant lose
hth |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 5:07 PM Author: massive dark kitty Big congrats man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692368) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 5:10 PM Author: Adventurous doctorate hissy fit He's a good dood and good lawyer judging by the oral arguments I heard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692372) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 5:13 PM Author: Stimulating Elastic Band the only down side is that horrible voice of his
sounds like a squeaky dweeb |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:05 PM Author: Vigorous khaki regret That’s just the courtroom audio. Rich baritone IRL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692514) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 9:38 AM Author: House-broken impertinent athletic conference internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49693947) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 10:04 AM Author: maize turdskin gaming laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49694004) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 10:51 AM Author: olive nudist nowag mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49694090) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:06 PM Author: Vigorous khaki regret Ty. I’m set to PWN some dweebs from Orrick in May. I’ll post the link as it gets closer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692517) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 7:34 PM Author: massive dark kitty OUT the lead lawyer from Orrick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692691) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 5:05 AM Author: Vigorous khaki regret I’ve honestly forgotten his name. Let’s just say no one has ever heard of him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49693720) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:10 PM Author: irate liquid oxygen Congrats friend. What do you make in a typical year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692524) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:15 PM Author: Vigorous khaki regret It’s probably averaged around a million over time. But aside from an ex wife and some kids at full-rack tuition, I don’t spend very much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692538) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 7:20 PM Author: Adventurous doctorate hissy fit That'd buy a lot of WOC pussy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692653) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:00 PM Author: irate liquid oxygen Sweet. I’m hoping to make around $1m next year. This years comp will be $625k. I’m trying to stack as much as possible in case my practice implodes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692908) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:55 PM Author: Lake abode idiot And how many hours you billing these days? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49693119) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 5:07 AM Author: Vigorous khaki regret Still probably 2,000. I’ve got only one kid still at home, no wife, and I like to do work. And to post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49693721) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 9:40 AM Author: House-broken impertinent athletic conference internal respiration 2000 hours is about 1000 hours too much. What's the point of having your own firm and stacking cash for years if you still grind 2000 hours of discovery motions or whatever? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49693953) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 8:14 PM Author: Vigorous khaki regret I like PWNing people. I guess I could try that here, but biglol drones are easier to PWN than true masters of argument like TDNW and TBF. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49695434) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 1:39 PM Author: Mint gaped police squad He genuinely likes doing it. He actually kept timesheets in his squabble with ZZZ. The law rewards the autists. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49697000) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:10 PM Author: stubborn immigrant home 9th Cir. news at 11: birds are fees (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692526) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 8:23 PM Author: Racy Station Patrolman Did you talk to Bloomberg before or after posting this? Anyway, congrats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692813) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 8:36 PM Author: Vigorous khaki regret Lol, all these people emailing me for "comment" during the middle of a celebratory posting spree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692845) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 8:50 PM Author: buck-toothed arousing legal warrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692878) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 8:58 PM Author: soul-stirring national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692905) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:10 PM Author: wine point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692939) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:24 PM Author: Racy Station Patrolman Fourth and Fifth Estates in the fights of their lives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49692975) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:37 PM Author: Histrionic institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49693027) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 9:41 AM Author: House-broken impertinent athletic conference internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49693957) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 10:04 AM Author: maize turdskin gaming laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49694005) |
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Date: February 25th, 2026 1:20 PM Author: Big-titted brindle step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49694452) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 1:46 PM Author: stubborn immigrant home (third-quartile litigator) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49697036) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 3:19 PM Author: Vigorous khaki regret Our fees guy says the third quartile rate in LA is now $1,615. Our dc judge is gonna be so mad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49697312) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 3:20 PM Author: soul-stirring national Do you tip your fees guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49697318) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 3:21 PM Author: Vigorous khaki regret We pay him the 3rd quartile rate if that’s what you mean (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49697324) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 3:28 PM Author: soul-stirring national I was thinking about it in the context of whether you tip your sneaker man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49697340) |
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Date: February 26th, 2026 4:00 PM Author: Claret Bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837972&forum_id=2\u0026show=6hr#49697434) |