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Is $250k a “good salary”?

Assuming you don’t pay for health insurance and can re...
garnet abode
  01/29/26
It’s good enough to live a fairly comfortable life. Ca...
beady-eyed newt
  01/29/26
My buddy is a firefighter and does this. Has a hot wife and ...
garnet abode
  01/29/26
yeah hes made it for sure. firefighter is one of the easiest...
Drunken fat ankles
  01/29/26
cr. 2 days per week you hang around a club house and shoot p...
bearded laser beams
  01/29/26
they literally let overweight millennial women drive the fir...
Drunken fat ankles
  01/29/26
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wonderful sinister state
  01/30/26
yes if your wife makes the same amount and you only have 1 k...
bearded laser beams
  01/29/26
and you live in flyover, not coastal states
Floppy hospital karate
  01/29/26
there is more coast than california and acela believe it or ...
Stirring meetinghouse hunting ground
  01/29/26
His wife is SAHM and it’s an expensive area. They have...
garnet abode
  01/29/26
Should've done 250k firefighter bro. Maybe in the next life ...
Stirring meetinghouse hunting ground
  01/29/26
4 kids x $2200 tax credit = $8800
painfully honest old irish cottage mother
  01/29/26
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erotic cerise voyeur
  01/29/26
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twinkling stain library
  01/29/26
That's basically me. We're broke as fuck. I had more money w...
erotic cerise voyeur
  01/29/26
i never felt wealthier than when i was a pizza delivery driv...
bearded laser beams
  01/29/26
in ug i did the phones at a small pizza place, sometimes (li...
lascivious well-lubricated church building
  01/29/26
you must have Barry White voice. Well done. Stay on that pho...
geriatric bull headed corner
  01/29/26
what are you spending it on other than chasing your kids aro...
abusive tanning salon
  01/29/26
That's basically it. Totally self inflicted. It's embarrassi...
erotic cerise voyeur
  01/29/26
to what end?
abusive tanning salon
  01/29/26
It's a structure for parents that are too lazy to impose dis...
erotic cerise voyeur
  01/29/26
This has been my question recently. I’m really taking ...
bearded laser beams
  01/29/26
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abusive tanning salon
  01/29/26
This is pretty crazy. Do parents not help each other out as ...
Stirring meetinghouse hunting ground
  01/29/26
My example is soccer because that's what my kids play, but i...
bearded laser beams
  01/30/26
It’s bc people want everything to be based on Clique a...
Grizzly vivacious candlestick maker office
  01/30/26
Same deal here. Our best memories last summer were made on a...
erotic cerise voyeur
  01/30/26
Goddamn. Yeah at the highest levels dance, gymnastics, cheer...
bearded laser beams
  01/30/26
median salary is probably 30k
ultramarine disrespectful business firm famous landscape painting
  01/29/26
Yes outside of coastal urban areas, where it couldn’t ...
abusive tanning salon
  01/29/26
its okay for LMC so i guess public schools for ur kids in...
lascivious well-lubricated church building
  01/29/26
Most non Asians care about “public schools” and ...
garnet abode
  01/29/26
yeah, agreed public schools are the didndu thunderdome fo...
lascivious well-lubricated church building
  01/29/26
In 1982 in flyover? Yeah.
comical maniacal sound barrier garrison
  01/29/26
its just okay in a HCOL place but balling in flyover. 250...
fragrant brindle people who are hurt
  01/29/26
this is the best u could do in cleveland on 250k https://...
lascivious well-lubricated church building
  01/29/26
$250 + wife $250 = DINK and you will be fine
geriatric bull headed corner
  01/29/26
So are you basically just fucked for life if you’re no...
aromatic cordovan turdskin rehab
  01/29/26
Is 250k a lot of money to you?
olive round eye parlour
  01/29/26
The problem with making this little is that you get to 40, 4...
twinkling stain library
  01/29/26
Huh?
garnet abode
  01/29/26
You start to lose focus when your paid job drops to 25% or l...
twinkling stain library
  01/29/26
i quiet quit as soon as my paid job was less than annual gai...
olive round eye parlour
  01/29/26
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avocado jew ratface
  01/29/26
no, not for what's coming.
Racy bawdyhouse
  01/29/26
$250k isn't amazing, but retiring at 50 with a full pension ...
bisexual lodge skinny woman
  01/29/26
Another crazy thing is he was talking to me about 401k. I wa...
garnet abode
  01/29/26


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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:42 PM
Author: garnet abode

Assuming you don’t pay for health insurance and can retire at 50 with full pension? My buddy does this and I’m trying to figure out if he has it made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631100)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:45 PM
Author: beady-eyed newt

It’s good enough to live a fairly comfortable life. Can afford to be in a decent area, take trips w family, save a good chunk of your salary.

If you add in a pension this is a great spot to be in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631109)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: garnet abode

My buddy is a firefighter and does this. Has a hot wife and a nice house. I’m confused how the fuck we got pushed into law. And only reason he retires at 50 and not like 40 is because he was an accountant and quit lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631116)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Drunken fat ankles

yeah hes made it for sure. firefighter is one of the easiest/best jobs left in the us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631123)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: bearded laser beams

cr. 2 days per week you hang around a club house and shoot pool with your friends and everyone treats you like a hero.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631127)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: Drunken fat ankles

they literally let overweight millennial women drive the firetruck by me its a joke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631139)



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Date: January 30th, 2026 1:34 PM
Author: wonderful sinister state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49633250)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: bearded laser beams

yes if your wife makes the same amount and you only have 1 kid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631122)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: Floppy hospital karate

and you live in flyover, not coastal states

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631125)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:51 PM
Author: Stirring meetinghouse hunting ground

there is more coast than california and acela believe it or not, some might even say the better part of the coast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631132)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:51 PM
Author: garnet abode

His wife is SAHM and it’s an expensive area. They have 4 kids. How the fuck is this possible? Maybe the “1 kid” limit thing is Internet incel talk?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631130)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: Stirring meetinghouse hunting ground

Should've done 250k firefighter bro. Maybe in the next life since we're half dead and the good half at that lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631133)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:07 PM
Author: painfully honest old irish cottage mother

4 kids x $2200 tax credit = $8800

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631185)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: erotic cerise voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631136)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:02 PM
Author: twinkling stain library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631690)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:54 PM
Author: erotic cerise voyeur

That's basically me. We're broke as fuck. I had more money when I was a poor college kid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631146)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 3:55 PM
Author: bearded laser beams

i never felt wealthier than when i was a pizza delivery driver in college.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631149)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:26 PM
Author: lascivious well-lubricated church building

in ug i did the phones at a small pizza place, sometimes (like 1 time every 4 months) id get a horny af older sounding woman begging me to deliver the pizza, id sadly have to explain that im just the phone guy

not even sure how they decided i was good enough to fuck just based on my voice, because they werent interested in most of the delivery guys (one delivery guy was a chad who drove a motorcycle)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631248)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 7:56 PM
Author: geriatric bull headed corner

you must have Barry White voice. Well done. Stay on that phone gig.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631678)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:16 PM
Author: abusive tanning salon

what are you spending it on other than chasing your kids around sportsball games

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631211)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:20 PM
Author: erotic cerise voyeur

That's basically it. Totally self inflicted. It's embarrassing how much we spend. I hide it from coworkers and family.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631230)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:21 PM
Author: abusive tanning salon

to what end?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631236)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:27 PM
Author: erotic cerise voyeur

It's a structure for parents that are too lazy to impose discipline through traditional routes on crap like screen time (which is cheap and plentiful).

Contrast with...My grandfather wasn't allowed to play football because it interfered with his chores on the farm. My great grandfather found out he was playing and drug him off the field to go milk cows.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631249)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 7:28 PM
Author: bearded laser beams

This has been my question recently. I’m really taking my foot off the gas with emphasizing sports for my kids. It really ruins a lot of weekends. Family splits up, you drive over an hour each way for your kid to play 40 min of a team sport. It’s expensive, time consuming and you hit diminishing returns very early.

I think it’s just an easy mold for parents to adopt. The sports family. You have a built in social circle and the commitments create a structure for your life. You don’t have to connect with your kids or actually participate in their enrichments but you’re still a “good parent” because all of your time is devoted to “their” pursuits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631625)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 7:49 PM
Author: abusive tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631659)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:33 PM
Author: Stirring meetinghouse hunting ground

This is pretty crazy. Do parents not help each other out as much these days or is it people just keeping up with the modern expectation that you MUST attend everything or what's going on here? We used to always have one parent cram a bunch of kids into their car

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631762)



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Date: January 30th, 2026 1:26 PM
Author: bearded laser beams

My example is soccer because that's what my kids play, but i think generally it's the same for most sports because they've just about all been privatized.

The sports are no longer town based so my kids' soccer teams are based in a town 20 min away and pulls from all the surrounding towns, so there's no carpooling for us.

unless you are playing pretty low level "town travel" you are going to be in a a more competitive league (for soccer it's EDP and at older ages ECNL, GA or MLSNext) with about 8 other teams that aren't necessarily going to be geographically close to you. So a random weekend league game with your child playing 40 min on a field with 1 ball and 17 other kids ends up being a 4-6 hour commitment taking up most of the day.

Then there are tournaments which, again are not local and often require overnight lodging.

It's all completely ridiculous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49633239)



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Date: January 30th, 2026 1:45 PM
Author: Grizzly vivacious candlestick maker office

It’s bc people want everything to be based on Clique and living in a Community of any kind is for Losers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49633276)



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Date: January 30th, 2026 1:46 PM
Author: erotic cerise voyeur

Same deal here. Our best memories last summer were made on a camping trip to Crater Lake. We cut it short because some 22 year old dance instructor said we had to otherwise my daughter's routine wouldn't be ready by comp time OMG! I don't think I ever even saw the routine. Last week I cut a $2400 check for one single competition. That's just for the event, not studio time, hotel/food, travel costs etc. For what?

The privatized aspect really sucks. It's killed school sports. The highschool has a dance team but it's universally terrible. Even traditional sports like school baseball suck ass now. It's almost all poor kids. We put my son in a rec basketball league that just plays locally. I think it was $200, the competition mostly is subpar...but my kid fucking loved it. Don't even get me started on what select baseball has done to little league.

You have 4 kids? I can't compete with these 1-2 kid families. They really push it beyond what's normal then expectations get stuck there. All kids need $100 bat warming bags for their $500 bats??? I complained and a dad said what's another $100 in the grand scheme of what we're paying for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49633279)



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Date: January 30th, 2026 1:59 PM
Author: bearded laser beams

Goddamn. Yeah at the highest levels dance, gymnastics, cheer, baseball and hockey are in their own tier of insanity. The cost of soccer actually isn't bad in comparison ($3,500 for the year including tournament fees plus every other year another $500 for a new set of uniforms).

The baseball framework seems the dumbest to me. Out of town entire weekend tournaments every week and multiple cross-country trips for tournaments starting at like 10U. Wouldn't they get more out of training sessions where they are getting tons of reps rather than more games where they spend the majority of time standing around or sitting on the bench?

You are 100% right about the parents with only 1 or 2 kids. I can't pay for additional $100/hour personal training 3X/week for my 9 year old when i have 3 other kids. But i also think you hit the nail on the head that creating your own experiences for your kids like vacations or even just quality unstructured time at home letting your kid steer the ship on what you do creates more memories than carting them around to practice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49633309)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:03 PM
Author: ultramarine disrespectful business firm famous landscape painting

median salary is probably 30k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631171)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:05 PM
Author: abusive tanning salon

Yes outside of coastal urban areas, where it couldn’t afford a shitbox. But it’s subject to severe lifestyle erosion as real inflation is like 15-20%

The middle class is dead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631180)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:22 PM
Author: lascivious well-lubricated church building

its okay for LMC

so i guess public schools for ur kids in a school system listed as "A" but the A is buffed by being "diverse" and a 2000sqft house where ur neighbors are either newly LMC like you or have been in the neighborhood for years and paid 1/10th of what you paid and are proles or dangerous, etc etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631241)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: garnet abode

Most non Asians care about “public schools” and most kids in suburbs go to public school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631271)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 4:42 PM
Author: lascivious well-lubricated church building

yeah, agreed

public schools are the didndu thunderdome for the LMC kids to enjoy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631301)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 7:40 PM
Author: comical maniacal sound barrier garrison

In 1982 in flyover? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631643)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 7:51 PM
Author: fragrant brindle people who are hurt

its just okay in a HCOL place but balling in flyover.

250k in cleveland and you have a mansion and are swimming in young boy ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631667)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 7:55 PM
Author: lascivious well-lubricated church building

this is the best u could do in cleveland on 250k

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1455-E-Superior-Ave-22-Cleveland-OH-44114/445722580_zpid/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631677)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 7:57 PM
Author: geriatric bull headed corner

$250 + wife $250 = DINK and you will be fine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631681)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:00 PM
Author: aromatic cordovan turdskin rehab

So are you basically just fucked for life if you’re not a senior in IB, biglaw, PE/PC by the time you’re 40?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631688)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:05 PM
Author: olive round eye parlour

Is 250k a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631697)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:12 PM
Author: twinkling stain library

The problem with making this little is that you get to 40, 45 maybe and you're making like 3x that number per year in the market and at that point it's over.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631716)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:18 PM
Author: garnet abode

Huh?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631726)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 9:10 PM
Author: twinkling stain library

You start to lose focus when your paid job drops to 25% or less of your annual gains.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631889)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 9:22 PM
Author: olive round eye parlour

i quiet quit as soon as my paid job was less than annual gains. i'd have fully retired long before it dropped to 25%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631913)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 9:25 PM
Author: avocado jew ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631925)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:18 PM
Author: Racy bawdyhouse

no, not for what's coming.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631728)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:25 PM
Author: bisexual lodge skinny woman

$250k isn't amazing, but retiring at 50 with a full pension absolutely is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631746)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: garnet abode

Another crazy thing is he was talking to me about 401k. I was like explaining things to him assuming his pension was his 401k and he didn’t save for retirement. Then he tells me yeah I know what a 401k is. He has a 457 plan which is the same as a 401k (no match from the gov obviously) then when he maxes that out he contributes to a 401k. He can do both. He shows me his and he had $600k in it lmao. That plus pension plus retire at 50. And there are people who get to retire at 41 or 42. He became a firefighter later in life after quitting accounting.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5828424&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49631802)