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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
aphrodisiac drunken kitty lettuce
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Avocado Meetinghouse
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Marvelous wine point
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Gold Locus Tank
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Marvelous wine point
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Gold Locus Tank
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Marvelous wine point
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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flickering principal's office
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
jet pontificating center
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: aphrodisiac drunken kitty lettuce

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Avocado Meetinghouse

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Avocado Meetinghouse

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Avocado Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Avocado Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Avocado Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Avocado Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Avocado Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Avocado Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Avocado Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Avocado Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Avocado Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Avocado Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Avocado Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143857)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Marvelous wine point

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Gold Locus Tank

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Marvelous wine point

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Gold Locus Tank

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Marvelous wine point

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: fragrant dark cruise ship

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Soul-stirring coiffed chapel foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: flickering principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Pearl bossy ladyboy business firm

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Drab Charismatic Abode Feces

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Violent lilac roast beef

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: fragrant dark cruise ship

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: jet pontificating center

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Slimy locale striped hyena

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Nofapping Forum

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49105022)