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What's a good passive income # to retire to Portugal or Croatia or Malaga?

Thinking of using qqqi to get there. If I put all my cash in...
,.,,,.
  07/29/25
Definitely southern Spain >>>> everywhere else
average/ordinary/typical citizen/person
  07/29/25
But any decent condo in malaga is 1mil$+ and malaga itself h...
,.,,,.
  07/29/25
friend of mine moved to Galicia a few years back, he is Amer...
Mainlining the $ecret Truth of the Univer$e
  07/30/25
Galicia (and Asturias) are 180. Terrain looks like the U...
40-50x more gay and autistic than you
  07/30/25
Here's a google street view of a random pin drop in Galicia....
40-50x more gay and autistic than you
  07/30/25
The people look somewhat more White than in the rest of Spai...
40-50x more gay and autistic than you
  07/30/25
Spain has a wealth tax, so you can't live there on passive i...
grievance officer
  07/30/25
I'm coopting this sub-thread, which is now about the tangent...
40-50x more gay and autistic than you
  07/30/25
You'd be an insane person to fully expat to Spain and chose ...
average/ordinary/typical citizen/person
  07/30/25
Its where a Proper-White would feel most at home in Spain.
40-50x more gay and autistic than you
  07/30/25
In usa minimal expenses for example 2000/mo insurance on &qu...
,.,,,.
  07/30/25
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Judas Jones
  07/30/25
Spain and Portugal have pretty shitty tax regimes. Have you ...
Fucking Fuckface
  07/30/25
Actually I just looked into it. If your main source of incom...
,.,,,.
  07/30/25
The ones I listed are good for tax. Dividend and capital gai...
Fucking Fuckface
  07/30/25
Any countries that tax foreign dividend/capital gains are a ...
,.,,,.
  07/30/25
to keep fucking kikes like us out and with good reason
the world is built by lovingkindness
  07/30/25
I know Hungary doesn't charge tax on foreign dividends. But ...
,.,,,.
  07/30/25
The areas in Croatia where you would want to live are more e...
Zen Koan Benefits
  07/30/25
Don't know who that is but I've been to the coast between du...
,.,,,.
  07/30/25
If I had 5mil I could have over 500k/yr passive income from ...
,.,,,.
  07/30/25
You can't assume that QQQI will yield 10%+ indefinitely
grievance officer
  07/30/25
Why not?
,.,,,.
  07/30/25
I'm going to sell my nyc apt. Because that's 500k cash +2000...
,.,,,.
  07/30/25
u might look at Budapest - nice apartments
Brussels Sprout: Brussels,Helsinki,Stockholm,Kyiv
  07/30/25
What other countries in eu do not tax foreign dividends/capi...
,.,,,.
  07/30/25
What countries can you retire to outside Dubai and Malaysia ...
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  07/30/25
@grok -- see above ___________________ Countries to Co...
40-50x more gay and autistic than you
  07/30/25


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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:34 PM
Author: ,.,,,.

Thinking of using qqqi to get there. If I put all my cash in now I augment my wagecuck salary by 100k/yr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49141925)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:36 PM
Author: average/ordinary/typical citizen/person

Definitely southern Spain >>>> everywhere else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49141929)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: ,.,,,.

But any decent condo in malaga is 1mil$+ and malaga itself has mediocre beach where you can't leave your stuff. Basically u pay all that for middle class lifestyle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49141942)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 4:12 AM
Author: Mainlining the $ecret Truth of the Univer$e (You = Privy to The Great Becumming™ = Welcum to The Goodie Room™)

friend of mine moved to Galicia a few years back, he is Amerikkan, seems to be living 18 life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49142140)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 3:54 PM
Author: 40-50x more gay and autistic than you

Galicia (and Asturias) are 180.

Terrain looks like the UK.

And in terms of culture, you can tell that the muzziez never conquered the area.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143476)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 3:56 PM
Author: 40-50x more gay and autistic than you

Here's a google street view of a random pin drop in Galicia. Makes a proper White feel at home.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1671771,-7.1126672,3a,60y,68.52h,90.96t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2xJOT9bzX2MLtgeRLkf5EA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-0.9611256818330531%26panoid%3D2xJOT9bzX2MLtgeRLkf5EA%26yaw%3D68.51529179803892!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDcyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143481)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: 40-50x more gay and autistic than you

The people look somewhat more White than in the rest of Spain, but definitely still not White.

You do get a decent amount who LOOK proper white though. Decent amount of (dark) blonds and redheads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143491)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 3:57 PM
Author: grievance officer

Spain has a wealth tax, so you can't live there on passive income from your own investments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143484)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 3:59 PM
Author: 40-50x more gay and autistic than you

I'm coopting this sub-thread, which is now about the tangentially-related topic of North-Western Spain generally and how it does not look like Spain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143485)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 4:06 PM
Author: average/ordinary/typical citizen/person

You'd be an insane person to fully expat to Spain and chose to live in Espana Verde imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143505)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 4:09 PM
Author: 40-50x more gay and autistic than you

Its where a Proper-White would feel most at home in Spain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143512)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 12:02 AM
Author: ,.,,,.

In usa minimal expenses for example 2000/mo insurance on "luxury" car, 2000/mo condo fee, 2000/mo tax. That's something that's absent elsewhere in the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49141985)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:41 PM
Author: Judas Jones



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143794)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 7:50 AM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

Spain and Portugal have pretty shitty tax regimes. Have you considered that at all?

I think Croatia's problem is a lack of good residency visa options, but I could be remembering that wrong

Options without tax rape:

Greece

Cyprus

Albania

Montenegro

Italy (if you like small villages)

Hungary

Czech Republic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49142258)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 11:58 AM
Author: ,.,,,.

Actually I just looked into it. If your main source of income is longterm capital gains/dividends from usa, and you are willing to pay usa tax only, which euro countries would not rape you? I mean countries like montenegro and Bulgaria have lower tax than usa, but you basically pay both countries double tax and then hope to get a "refund" via lawyers. Are there actual euro countries where foreign income is offlimit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49142744)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 1:17 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

The ones I listed are good for tax. Dividend and capital gain income is treated differently many places so you need to know how much of each one you're getting. Greece is all around great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49142936)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 4:22 PM
Author: ,.,,,.

Any countries that tax foreign dividend/capital gains are a nogo. Why the fuck would I pay them extra tax if I spent many years to get to that dividend/capital in usa.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143530)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 4:25 PM
Author: the world is built by lovingkindness

to keep fucking kikes like us out and with good reason

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143535)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: ,.,,,.

I know Hungary doesn't charge tax on foreign dividends. But why would I want to live there? The only reason was that it was cheap and could fly from there to everywhere. But it's no longer any cheaper than Spain, i.e. apt in budapest costs a lot and might have 100yr old plumbing, restaurants more expensive than Spain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49142753)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 12:25 PM
Author: Zen Koan Benefits

The areas in Croatia where you would want to live are more expensive than most of the US. Don't be fooled by the Justus Reid 5K house videos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49142819)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: ,.,,,.

Don't know who that is but I've been to the coast between dubrovnik and split, and yeah it does not look any less expensive than Spain or Italy. And Spanish beach cities seem more walkable, but they are being overrun by non-whites. And Spain would actually tax my usa dividend income, ira, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49142830)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 3:27 PM
Author: ,.,,,.

If I had 5mil I could have over 500k/yr passive income from qqqi tax free. To me that seems more than enough to retire. I just put 60k into qqqi. Thinking of going all in... is 5mil the right number?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143405)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: grievance officer

You can't assume that QQQI will yield 10%+ indefinitely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143494)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 4:16 PM
Author: ,.,,,.

Why not?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143522)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: ,.,,,.

I'm going to sell my nyc apt. Because that's 500k cash +2000/month expenses. 500k is 60k/yr in qqqi or 5k/month income

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143449)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Brussels Sprout: Brussels,Helsinki,Stockholm,Kyiv


u might look at Budapest - nice apartments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143471)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 4:20 PM
Author: ,.,,,.

What other countries in eu do not tax foreign dividends/capital gains? I was there and main advantage was that nonexistent hoa, no property tax, and don't need a car. Just go to tenerife/malaga/crete on vacation. But food is mediocre and prices overall no less expensive than Spain/Italy. A lot of people there diet on shawarma and beer because that's cheap. I.e. you have to fly to another country just to take a swim.. that's not upscale

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143526)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:18 PM
Author: ,.,,,.

What countries can you retire to outside Dubai and Malaysia without double tax pwned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143754)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 7:02 PM
Author: 40-50x more gay and autistic than you

@grok -- see above

___________________

Countries to Consider

Costa Rica

Taxation: Costa Rica doesn’t tax foreign-sourced income, including pensions, for residents. If you’re a retiree with a pension from abroad, you’re generally exempt from local income tax on it.

DTT Status: No DTT with the US, UK, or many other major countries, but this doesn’t matter since foreign pensions aren’t taxed locally. You’d only need to handle tax obligations in your home country (e.g., US taxes worldwide income for citizens, but UK residents can often claim exemptions under non-resident rules).

Retirement Appeal: Offers a Pensionado visa for retirees with a minimum pension of $1,000/month. Low cost of living, excellent healthcare, and a stable climate make it popular. Pacific and Caribbean coasts are retiree hotspots.

Double Taxation Risk: Minimal, as Costa Rica doesn’t tax your pension, and you’d only deal with your home country’s tax rules.

Panama

Taxation: Panama doesn’t tax foreign-sourced income, including pensions. This makes it a haven for retirees with income from abroad.

DTT Status: Limited DTTs; none with the US or UK. Like Costa Rica, this is irrelevant since foreign income isn’t taxed.

Retirement Appeal: The Pensionado program is one of the best, requiring a pension of $1,000/month (or less if you invest in property). Benefits include discounts on healthcare, utilities, and travel. Panama City and Boquete are retiree-friendly with good infrastructure.

Double Taxation Risk: Negligible, as Panama doesn’t tax foreign pensions. US citizens would still report income to the IRS, but credits or exemptions may apply.

Thailand

Taxation: Thailand generally doesn’t tax foreign-sourced income, including pensions, if it’s not remitted to Thailand in the year it’s earned. Recent tax changes (2024) may require reporting for residents, but pensions often remain exempt under specific conditions.

DTT Status: Thailand has DTTs with many countries (e.g., US, UK), but these typically assign pension taxing rights to the home country or provide exemptions. If no DTT exists with your country, Thailand’s non-taxation of unremitted foreign income prevents double taxation.

Retirement Appeal: Retirement visas (Non-Immigrant O-A or O-X) are available for those over 50 with modest income requirements (~$2,000/month or a bank deposit). Low living costs, warm climate, and expat communities in Chiang Mai and Phuket are draws.

Double Taxation Risk: Low, especially if you structure income to avoid remittance. Check specific DTTs for your country.

Uruguay

Taxation: Uruguay offers a 10-year tax holiday on foreign-sourced income, including pensions, for new residents. After 10 years, you may face taxation, but rates are moderate.

DTT Status: Limited DTTs; none with the US, and a suspended treaty with the UK. The tax holiday makes DTTs less relevant for retirees during the initial decade.

Retirement Appeal: Stable economy, high quality of life, and a residence program for retirees with passive income (~$1,500/month). Montevideo and Punta del Este are popular for expats.

Double Taxation Risk: Very low during the tax holiday. Post-holiday, you’d need to review your home country’s tax rules.

Monaco

Taxation: Monaco has no personal income tax, so foreign pensions are entirely tax-free locally.

DTT Status: Few DTTs (none with the US, a limited one with the UK). Since there’s no local income tax, double taxation is avoided unless your home country taxes worldwide income (e.g., US).

Retirement Appeal: Extremely high cost of living, but ideal for wealthy retirees. Residency requires a significant bank deposit (~€500,000) and proof of accommodation. Top-tier healthcare and safety.

Double Taxation Risk: None locally; only your home country’s tax applies.

Bermuda

Taxation: No income tax, so foreign pensions are untaxed locally.

DTT Status: No DTTs with most countries, including the US and UK. No local income tax eliminates double taxation concerns.

Retirement Appeal: High cost of living but excellent quality of life, English-speaking, and retiree-friendly. Residency requires financial proof or property investment.

Double Taxation Risk: None locally; home country taxes may apply (e.g., US citizens).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5756178&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143866)