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Hockey MFEs: Explain The Golden Goal. Great Shot? Great Assist? Bad D? Bad Goali
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:05 PM Author: irate adventurous senate knife i know nothing about hockey. can someone break down the golden goal and tell me what was good or bad about the whole play.
my retarded analysis is that it was a fastbreak, and the pass/assist was totally on the money, and the jew made a good but standard 1-on-1 shot that was 50/50. seems like the goalie didnt totally fuck up and the jew didnt totally do something amazing, an that pass was really great.
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:24 PM Author: Cracking Gaped Hunting Ground look at the very start of the play. it's 3x3 so you want to avoid at all costs a fast break by the opponent. you don't have a defender playing free safety.
the Canadian, McDavid, tried a one-on-three attack toward the US goal but was dispossessed.
Makar (canadian) was in a relatively defensive position but made a fateful decision to "pinch," meaning he moved forward to cut off the americans and steal the puck back. it's a little like a cornerback going for a pick when the receiver runs a down and out. it's high-risk and high-reward. if the pinch works your team gets another shot in the offensive zone and the opponent is bottled up once again. if it doesn't then potentially the opponents are off and flying. maybe he assumed that if he failed his team mate MacKinnon could play defense.
Makar's pinch failed. [edit: as a poaster noted below, Hughes not only kept possession but also cleverly avoided Makar's attempt at a forecheck that would have taken Hughes out of the play.] all three americans (Werenski, Larkin, and Hughes) and only one canadian defender (MacKinnon) were involved for the next few seconds.
Hughes saw his two team mates on the right side of the ice so he drifted over to the open ice on the left and waited.
the canadian defender, MacKinnon, has been faulted for moving over to play Werenski positionally (cutting off the line to the goal) when MacKinnon should have "played the puck" to break up the play. that strikes me as second guessing to some degree. it's a tough spot to be in -- although admittedly MacKinnon appears to have had a chance to just nudge or slap the puck to disrupt the play and end the threat.
Werenski muscled MacKinnon off the play, pulled back, and fired a pass to Hughes who was positioned and ready. Larkin, the american team mate, initially moved to take the puck from Werenski but then backed off so Werenski could pass.
and notice how the other two Canadians (McDavid and Makar) are rushing back but are too late. Makar is the last to arrive. he must have felt like a cornerback who took a risk and now has to sprint back while watching the opponent score a TD. [edit: pumo below made a good point i hadn't appreciated: Makar was inexcusably slow in getting back. maybe he was hoping that canada would regain the puck and he (Makar) could cherry pick a golden goal, given that all three Americans had committed to the offensive end?]
Hughes' shot is in the 5-hole, meaning between the goalie's knees. when the goalie comes out of the goal to cut down the shooter's angle it's nearly impossible to keep the five hole closed.
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:26 PM Author: cowardly slimy boiling water I would also add that Makar really fucked up by taking his sweet time to get back to cut off the pass. He was probably expecting MacKinnon to take the puck and get him the outlet pass for a breakaway on the other end.
This all started with McDavid trying to be a hero by taking it into the off zone by himself against the 3 Americans |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:28 PM Author: dashing fishy deer antler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49688984) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:29 PM Author: Cracking Gaped Hunting Ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49688986) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:37 PM Author: Cracking Gaped Hunting Ground tyft, i hadn't fully appreciated the way that Makar took his sweet time getting back.
look at this view, which proves your point. what the fuck was Makar thinking?
https://x.com/DavidCBets/status/2025782851887575074 |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:46 PM Author: Marvelous pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49689098) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 1:37 PM Author: doobsian arousing roommate theater stage CR. Makar fucked up initially and then fucked up again in deciding to hold off on getting back. I guess you could argue it was a tactical choice to do so, because if the US doesn’t pot it, there’s a good chance Canada has a 2v1 or 2v0 in the other direction. It looks really shitty in tandem with the failed pinch and end result, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49689322) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 9:51 PM Author: Chrome national fanboi They also played 24 minutes. Not a single poaster could sprint for 24 minutes even over ~2.5 hours. They were completely gassed after double shifts because Cooper wanted the top guys to get the golden goal. He wanted the highlight reel. They overplayed their hand. Just get back and shift change. Losers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690685) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:27 PM Author: Soul-stirring Theater Double Fault tyty hockeymasterman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49688982) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:29 PM Author: histrionic fear-inspiring laser beams striped hyena MacKinnon basically had a free puck within reach his stick in the Canada end because Werenski didn't pick it up cleanly despite getting to the puck first, but he hesitated for a split second and Werenski was able to muscle him off and make the pass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49688988) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 2:17 PM Author: Cracking Gaped Hunting Ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49689490) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:30 PM Author: irate adventurous senate knife this is some fucking scholarship. tyty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49688994) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 5:36 PM Author: cerebral garrison mental disorder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690075) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:31 PM Author: Sickened lilac faggotry I love niggerball (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49688997) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 7:47 PM Author: mind-boggling flickering incel Viewing the team photos of the USA and Canada national teams, hockey is closer to being "ball" than it is to being "nigger", and there's no ball. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690389) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 7:49 PM Author: Chrome national fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690393) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:42 PM Author: Unholy Property Don't forget Hughes made an incredible play to beat the forecheck coming out of his own zone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49689079) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 6:29 AM Author: Cracking Gaped Hunting Ground a new vid of that moment:
https://x.com/DuaneS39/status/2026082804178485568 |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 1:45 PM Author: Aromatic codepig tyvm, why is it called a 5-hole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49689368) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 1:47 PM Author: Soul-stirring Theater Double Fault there are 5 windows to score - 2 between each arm and leg, and 2 between each arm and the head, 5th hole between the legs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49689379) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 1:56 PM Author: Cracking Gaped Hunting Ground cr.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Goalie-holes.png/500px-Goalie-holes.png |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 1:58 PM Author: Soul-stirring Theater Double Fault little known fact: you can also put it in his butt hole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49689416) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 2:01 PM Author: Cracking Gaped Hunting Ground https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A85IRdyoUN0 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49689425) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 2:01 PM Author: Soul-stirring Theater Double Fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49689427) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 2:11 PM Author: irate adventurous senate knife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49689461) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 5:39 PM Author: cerebral garrison mental disorder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690080) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 7:32 PM Author: Autistic exciting stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690352) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 5:37 PM Author: cerebral garrison mental disorder tyvmft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690076) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:34 PM Author: dashing fishy deer antler The most 180 part was the camera going to the Canada bench after it was over and McDavid sitting there shellshocked, grabbing a water bottle and taking a squirt like he couldn’t believe it was over and expected to be going back over the boards. LMAO canacucks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49689020) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:36 PM Author: irate adventurous senate knife noob q: why do we hate mcdavid other than that he's canadian? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49689047) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:39 PM Author: dashing fishy deer antler I don’t hate him at all. He is an amazing player and has a great attitude, seems to be a team guy, he’s just on Team Canada. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49689073) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:45 PM Author: Unholy Property He's a whiny faggot autist who screams at his teammates and blames them when they lose and he has a horrendous shrew wife also he has a ketchup phobia not flame & he doesn't score enough goals and is an assist merchant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49689096) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 5:36 PM Author: Chrome national fanboi He's objectively the best player in the world and probably the best player since Gretzky. He is one of only 6 players ever to record 150 points in a season. He beat Gretzky's playoff points per game record. But he's never won a Stanley Cup or an Olympic gold medal. He is the greatest player in all of NHL history to have never won anything. The most he's ever won was a goofy exhibition tournament that didn't count for anything. It would be like if Tom Brady were 30 and had all the records but was 0-3 in the Super Bowl. I guess to that end you could kind of compare him to John Elway. If and when he gets a Cup he will then be compared to the top 10 players ever to play the game, but until then there's a massive elephant in the room.
As for why Canada lost the coach burned out the top line. Way too many minutes. You're supposed to trust your guys. Plenty of depth and talent on Canada, but Cooper just wanted the golden goal to go to one of their most famous players. They were exhausted out there. They probably win if they give a few more shifts to Marner and Suzuki. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 6:08 PM Author: irate adventurous senate knife ty. id never heard of him til today btw.
how much is one hockey star responsible for a championship? in baseball, it's hard to fault a star for not winning. in basketball, it's easy to fault a star.
and wtf canada has a guy named suzuki?
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 6:18 PM Author: Chrome national fanboi I think the impact of a great player in hockey is greater than it is in baseball and perhaps less than it is in basketball. It's still a big impact though. Gretzky won four Cups but he did it all with another Hall of Famer on his team. One thing that people don't realize about Gretzky is that he wasn't just great, he was like twice as good as the next greatest player. There's an argument that Gretzky would have been the greatest player of all time if he had never scored a single goal just on assists alone, and he scored the second most goals ever behind only Ovechkin who recently surpassed him. And even Gretzky couldn't win a Cup with the LA Kings and basically no support although he did take them to a Cup final.
You can definitely argue that McDavid doesn't have a ton of support around him, and he twice ran into a buzzsaw. The Oilers are a bum franchise who were in last place for like 20 years before McDavid showed up. He does have a little help in Draisaitl who is probably a Hall of Famer if for no other reason than that he's the greatest German hockey player of all time. But they've had shitty goaltending. Also the taxes are absurdly high in Canada and the provinces they're all taking above 50 cents on the dollar. Tough in the salary cap era to get free agents to go up there when you can keep 10% more of your salary each year. (Teams from Florida and Nevada have won like 5 out of the last 7 Cups or so)
I think if McDavid played for any American franchise that spends to the cap and cares about winning (sorry Flyers fans) he would have won 2 already imo. He's carrying a load up there. I say this all as a goofy extremist McDavid apologist. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 6:21 PM Author: irate adventurous senate knife ty for the scholarship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690179) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 6:54 PM Author: histrionic fear-inspiring laser beams striped hyena Not to nitpick because I agree with the general sentiment, but those 80s Oilers teams were incredibly stacked, with like 6 or 7 HOFers.
That and peak Orr was at least as dominant as Gretzky, and maybe Lemieux too. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 6:59 PM Author: Chrome national fanboi Oh no I agree about the 80s Oilers. I was only dissing them sort of post that era. I know they went to a Cup in '06 but that was a fluke and they lost.
This is a hot take but I think Orr was overrated. I don't even think he was the best player on that team. People vastly overrate the skilled offensive defensemen. Niggaz should get back and defend. Obviously I wasn't alive during the 70s and I know oldmos think he was a genius or whatever. But he lost a lot of Cup finals too for such a "dominant" guy.
Agree Lemieux was unimpeachable as a 1-A to Gretzky but his career was cut short yadda yadda so we'll never know. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 7:29 PM Author: histrionic fear-inspiring laser beams striped hyena Both regular and advanced stats for Orr are insane. 6 season stretch where he was #1 in both assists and plus/minus for 5 of those seasons, and the only time he wasn't he missed 15 games and was still second in assists and 4th in plus minus. Was first in points twice, second 3 times, and 3rd once (the season he missed 15 games).
Hockey's WAR-equivalent has him with 5 of the top 9 most valuable seasons by a skater by point shares (3 Gretzky seasons and 1 Lemieux making up the rest) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 7:38 PM Author: Chrome national fanboi Yeah I just don't believe it. I really hate advanced metrics and the like. I hate stat geeks and all of that. There's no way Bobby Orr was really that good. You can do all the digging you want. How could a guy who lost so much in the playoffs if he was the greatest ever yeah no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690363) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 9:22 PM Author: irate adventurous senate knife goyishe hockey has jewish advanced stats??? like what -- is there WAR? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690610) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 9:52 PM Author: histrionic fear-inspiring laser beams striped hyena https://www.hockey-reference.com/leaders/ps_season.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690689) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 9:54 PM Author: Chrome national fanboi Oh well if 2004 Roberto Luongo isn't a top 5 individual performance in NHL history I don't know what is lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690691) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 9:56 PM Author: histrionic fear-inspiring laser beams striped hyena Yeah, I think point shares overrated goalies a bit. The combo of being a top goalie and playing a ton of games gets you massive “point shares” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690694) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 9:58 PM Author: Chrome national fanboi I didn't think Hellebuyck should have won the Hart. It's all so tiresome. That team blows. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690699) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 10:18 PM Author: indigo hyperventilating market Luongo had a losing record that season lol
I guess his defense sucked so he faced 8 billion shots and had a 93 percent save percentage.
I guess the baseball equivalent would be a pitcher with a terrible defense who has an abnormally high BABIP so fangraphs decides it’s not ur fault! |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 10:21 PM Author: Chrome national fanboi Well said lol
Also Luongo was a huge douche who never won a Cup. He had a massive ego for a guy who was never really a key factor. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 10:40 PM Author: irate adventurous senate knife wtf is a bernie parent? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690768) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 10:45 PM Author: Chrome national fanboi This stat should just abandon rating goalies altogether if it wants to be taken seriously, and even then it's quite dubious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690774) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:42 PM Author: Marvelous pit A small 180 piece of this: At 12 seconds in the video below, 2 US players are to the right of the Canadian goal, one up the ice from the puck, one behind the puck. You can see number 21, with the puck in front of him, about to take it. But number 8 has an angle for the pass and reaches back for it, opposite of his momentum. 21 pulls up and lets his bro get the 18000 assist.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8c47m212Mkk&pp |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 5:24 PM Author: cowardly slimy boiling water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690024) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:42 PM Author: Hyperactive lime mad cow disease boltzmann With three on three you have to prioritize keeping the puck over taking chances, and only go deep when if you can get back in the play with your momentum if you lose the puck. Connor hero balled it against three defenders, caused a counter attack, and forced his teammates to make some difficult decisions and the US played the opportunity perfectly. Thing is though Canada won a previous OT game against Czechia on a goal by Marner where he attacked the net in a similarly disadvantaged, potentially risky situation.
Really though 3v3 is nowhere like actual 5v5 hockey and they shouldn't go to OT in that format. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 12:44 PM Author: dashing fishy deer antler 3 v 3 in group play is fine but for knockout it needs to be 5 on 5. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49689092) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 1:38 PM Author: doobsian arousing roommate theater stage CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49689331) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 6:45 PM Author: Cracking Gaped Hunting Ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690258) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 5:58 PM Author: Aromatic codepig How common is the 5 on 3 scenario that happened at one point? How hard was it for the US to survive that without getting scored on? TYIA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690113) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 6:46 PM Author: Chrome national fanboi it happens about once every 4-5 games. while teams normally score on somewhere around 20% of regular power plays, it's much higher on 5 on 3s but it's not close to 100%. It's definitely survivable, although when you do get scored on 5 on 3 everyone goes, well what were the odds we successfully defended it. It's possible to defend a 5 on 3 twice in a game. But eventually they're going to get you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690262) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 7:49 PM Author: mind-boggling flickering incel Great thread.
The level of hockey MFEness ITT is a really strong blow against historical claims that xo is 80% non-white. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 9:22 PM Author: irate adventurous senate knife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690612) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2026 10:20 PM Author: drab stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837533&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49690738) |