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Peak experience for El Capitan climber: rappels off end of rope on livestream
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:02 PM Author: garnet razzle-dazzle parlor karate https://www.sfgate.com/national-parks/article/climber-dies-yosemite-el-capitan-fall-21081616.php
“[He] was hauling his bag up the last pitch when it became stuck. So, he went down his lead line to clear it,” Evans wrote. “His rope didn’t reach the bag’s location by many feet, but he seemed unaware of that fact. On the way down he rappelled off the end of the rope.”
Makes my palms sweaty just thinking about the rush. |
Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:09 PM Author: Red Headpube "he could do physics with little effort." Sometimes a little effort is not enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322337) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:43 PM Author: laughsome splenetic mental disorder boiling water Savage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322423) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:09 PM Author: Stirring mustard brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322881) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 2:45 AM Author: bossy native pistol Wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324004) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 3:59 AM Author: amethyst aphrodisiac background story spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324048) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 7:57 AM Author: Metal Friendly Grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324148) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:12 PM Author: Comical Magenta House Juggernaut "Miller's death came on the first day of the federal government shutdown, which left national parks "generally" open, with limited operations and closed visitors centres.'
Wow Drumpf has blood on his orange hands |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:13 PM Author: razzmatazz crimson stage knife link to livestream? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322346) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:13 PM Author: garnet razzle-dazzle parlor karate Don't think I want to see that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322347) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:00 PM Author: claret main people That's ok. Send the link and we'll describe it for you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322446) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:20 PM Author: Transparent anal plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322513) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:41 PM Author: razzmatazz crimson stage knife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322587) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 3:08 PM Author: ruby duck-like location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322734) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:10 PM Author: Stirring mustard brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322882) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:41 PM Author: Chestnut hominid hospital lol at thing-doers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322420) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:42 PM Author: wild zombie-like gaming laptop church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322422) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:55 PM Author: Disrespectful Pale Pocket Flask Center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322438) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:51 PM Author: Know-it-all Ivory Electric Furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322997) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:32 PM Author: Stirring mustard brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323104) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:43 PM Author: Bat shit crazy costumed nowag Jesus Christ that is retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322424) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:45 PM Author: gaped narrow-minded cruise ship community account am i cooked chat? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322427) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:06 PM Author: indecent aromatic halford associate "peak" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322470) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:11 PM Author: glittery umber locale internal respiration Im only surprised these things dont happen more often (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322485) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:14 PM Author: Bright bull headed state love of her life “but he seemed unaware of that fact.”
Thanks for clarifying |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:17 PM Author: supple national security agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322504) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:21 PM Author: glittery umber locale internal respiration Is he ok?
Dont leave this as a cluff hanger. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:54 PM Author: house-broken heaven legend Needs to be added to corporate lingo.
Rakesh, you’ll want to make sure you update your PNPs for this. Don’t want to rappel off the end of your rope when the SOX auditors start to ask questions.
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:08 PM Author: garnet razzle-dazzle parlor karate 180. We need whichever poster has the most reports to start forcememing this in his organization. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322877) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:48 PM Author: laughsome splenetic mental disorder boiling water I am unironically going to start using this in discussions risked-based decision making. 100% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322981) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:18 PM Author: brilliant quadroon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323085) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 1:23 AM Author: burgundy brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323943) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:12 PM Author: Electric cowardly theater Any climbing mastermen itt? Aren't you supposed to tie knots in your ropes so this doesn't happen? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322889) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:21 PM Author: Stirring mustard brethren lol, I’m no masterman but the rope is supposed to be considerably longer than the descent so that this doesn’t happen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322903) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:53 PM Author: cheese-eating domesticated rigpig telephone El Cap is 10000k feet tall, they don't make ropes that long (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323002) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:07 PM Author: Stirring mustard brethren he wasn’t going from top to bottom bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323056) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 6:14 PM Author: wonderful kitchen lmfao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323173) |
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Date: October 5th, 2025 11:47 AM Author: laughsome splenetic mental disorder boiling water Until he was (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49326566) |
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Date: October 5th, 2025 12:56 PM Author: Stirring mustard brethren wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49326709) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:54 PM Author: grizzly galvanic chapel skinny woman You usually carry multiple ropes but it can be done with one rope if you constantly anchor / redrop the rope. Risk with one rope is that if it oops falls out of your hands you're fucked and stuck on the side of a cliff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323006) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:51 PM Author: grizzly galvanic chapel skinny woman Yes, you tie a knot at the end of the rope whenever you rappel for this exact reason. When dropping the rope or pulling it back up (after you get to the end of it and have anchored on the rock) it can get stuck in cracks/on bushes so it's more of a PITA but it beats OOPS not rappelling off your rope. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49322996) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:43 PM Author: Thriller shrine toaster Yes, a simple stopper knot that takes approximately 5 seconds to tie. It’s very common and even indoor climbers know how to tie one.
There’s a continuum of experience for their use. Inexperienced - always tie them. Confident and more experienced climbers - often skip them because they can be a bit of a PITA. Legit truly experienced experts - always tie them. This guy fell in the middle it seems like. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 6:38 PM Author: Very tactful faggotry queen of the night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX7dF80W35g (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323247) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:00 PM Author: tripping school cafeteria pervert honestly, he could stand with any man who has ever lived since about the first man, point to the peak, point to himself and indicate he'd been up there. This would inspire some marvel and admiration from any man, ever. He could then make a kind of splatter gesture with his hand, and all those cro-mags and homo erectuses, etc would all get that, too.
Kind of 180000 to die doing something so universal across all history, and universally heroic.
Now imagine how most of us would describe are lives and are deaths.
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:03 PM Author: glittery umber locale internal respiration Not falling off a cliff face
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:12 PM Author: supple national security agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323068) |
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Date: October 5th, 2025 12:59 PM Author: mind-boggling resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49326716) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 6:23 PM Author: garnet razzle-dazzle parlor karate Did any of you bros watch The Alpinist, and go in completely cold? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323188) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 9:52 PM Author: Erotic Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323689) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 8:01 AM Author: Metal Friendly Grandma I will do that tonight, good sir (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324150) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 7:00 PM Author: Passionate Ungodly Forum Regret that's tough. i don't understand the mechanics here but it sounds like riding a motorcycle: you need to be perfect every single moment. (and even if you're perfect, other people fucking up can kill you, though that's not what happened here) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323303) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 11:00 PM Author: supple national security agency Dude fell half a mile. That's about 17 seconds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323785) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 4:14 AM Author: amethyst aphrodisiac background story spot I got 13 but neglected air resistance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324059) |
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Date: October 5th, 2025 11:42 AM Author: Stirring mustard brethren peak experience (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49326557) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 11:37 PM Author: irradiated liquid oxygen death wish I still don’t get what happened. He climbed to point A, went back to get his gear at point B, the gear got stuck somehow so he went back to get it unstuck and somehow couldn’t stop and flew off the mountain? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323836) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 11:38 PM Author: Amber Mood Codepig Yes. Remarkable, isn't it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323838) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 3:16 AM Author: Spectacular puppy meetinghouse all these climbing fags are using their retarded terms to describe shit, unable to explain shit at a basic level. they keep mentioning something abt tieing a knot at the end of the rope, if he had done that he wldnt have died to DET but i dont furking understand how that furking changes shit
and i dont understand wtf ur bag wld get stuck, wtf do u even have a bag, i think by bag they mean some other shit like to keep ur ropes wtf is this nigga shit wtf wldnt u just keep the bag on ur back |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 3:48 AM Author: garnet razzle-dazzle parlor karate In other words, you’re a dweeb who hasn’t spent time outdoors other than quick runs to the beer store? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324033) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 5:04 AM Author: Spectacular puppy meetinghouse I tried doing a birdshit activity in Hellosirland and it was a disaster. Birdshits are insane (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324097) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 4:17 AM Author: amethyst aphrodisiac background story spot I gather a knot would have helped him stop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324062) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 11:44 PM Author: Motley kitty cat i never got the logistics behind climbing even though they made us do that shit in middle school on little cliffs. at most a rope and harness are a b+ tool so you can delude yourself into thinking youre not gonna die right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323840) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 12:03 AM Author: fishy double fault Here is the video:
https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/falling/post/391759/balin-miller-climing-incident-03102025 |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: Stirring mustard brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323940) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 1:25 AM Author: white place of business national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323947) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 1:29 AM Author: irradiated liquid oxygen death wish what the fucking fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49323951) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 3:50 AM Author: garnet razzle-dazzle parlor karate Wow. Wasn’t as bad as I’d expected — I’d took “livestream” to mean he was streaming from a helmet cam or something at the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324037) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 5:16 AM Author: marvelous ultramarine affirmative action goal in life why did he give up on himself and plunge straight down instead of doing some sort of kick-flip against the rock face so that he could change his trajectory and grab on to a ledge or something? parkour stuff, basically. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324106) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 5:29 AM Author: dead turquoise voyeur pit he was at the end of his rope (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324109) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 5:37 AM Author: burgundy brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324116) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 7:48 AM Author: Stirring mustard brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324144) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 9:10 AM Author: supple national security agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324195) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 9:28 AM Author: laughsome splenetic mental disorder boiling water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324205) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 9:37 AM Author: excitant clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324218) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:03 AM Author: Bat shit crazy costumed nowag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324367) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:48 AM Author: vibrant incel yarmulke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324483) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 10:31 PM Author: white place of business national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49325812) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 8:00 AM Author: curious base personal credit line What the fuck how could you not double check or be sure of how long the rope is. Man’s hubris with nature knows no bounds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324149) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:05 AM Author: Bat shit crazy costumed nowag Looks like he tried to grab the rope his bag was hanging off of. To no avail
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:33 AM Author: Stirring mustard brethren to his credit it does look like he was able to grab it pretty well, that’s why it pops up at the end
but you ain’t catching yourself on a piece of yarn while free falling |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:44 AM Author: irradiated liquid oxygen death wish When he was rappelling down to get the gear unstuck, how did he not notice the rope holding him was not taut? Wouldn’t you sense it was wasn’t tied or knotted or whatever? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324471) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:47 AM Author: Stirring mustard brethren he probably wasn’t the type to use the catch knot at the end
and it’s probably not very taut usually. issue seems to be that he didn’t check that the end of the rope went down past where he was planning to stop |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:50 AM Author: Comical Magenta House Juggernaut I would have survived this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324489) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:52 AM Author: vibrant incel yarmulke Almost looks like he did it on purpose (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49324493) |
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Date: October 5th, 2025 10:41 AM Author: house-broken heaven legend Marla Singer turning her head to face Disco Fries, exhaling smoke in his face. “Bounce.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49326440) |