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Question about European feudalism.
| 180 frozen den | 06/14/13 |
| bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house | 05/29/25 |
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: 180 frozen den Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49463581) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49464738) |
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49466319) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49495268) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49497250) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49500993) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49515504) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49529071) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49532458) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49536032) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49545634) |
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Date: December 28th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49545665) |
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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:19 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49548639) |
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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:56 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49562700) |
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Date: January 6th, 2026 7:39 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49567730) |
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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49584404) |
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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM Author: bonkers concupiscible pisswyrm step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49589879) |
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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49604959) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Garnet Ceo Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Glassy jet-lagged legend Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: Garnet Ceo (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Glassy jet-lagged legend They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: Garnet Ceo read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: violet theatre yarmulke Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: stirring cerise pit electric furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: cream forum chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Hairraiser heaven rigor what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: Galvanic jewess regret cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: lascivious macaca stock car I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: violet theatre yarmulke teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: Mauve love of her life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Hyperventilating telephone i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Learning Disabled Whorehouse Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: fragrant public bath weed whacker really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: spectacular jet garrison sandwich It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: stimulating senate headpube it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: spectacular jet garrison sandwich Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=month#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: fragrant public bath weed whacker actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |