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1 in 50 women who freeze eggs go on to have a child

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Also surprising: only 16,000 women per year freeze their egg...
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agreed. does that mean there are fewer surrogate pregnancies...
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how so? a lot of them probably end up conceiving naturally a...
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Lmao
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Obviously you’re an optimist
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its a 50-80k scam by JewMedical Complex
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no, that's how many end up having a child from the frozen eg...
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right, it doesnt imply what percentage of the frozen eggs ar...
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Did you use frozen eggs? IVF uses fresh eggs first.
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Ivf is just in vitro fertilization, fresh or frozen. We used...
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Date: August 12th, 2026 5:47 PM
Author: Light jewess public bath

https://x.com/nunosempere/status/2086739783397573092?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50064247)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 5:48 PM
Author: marvelous navy school cafeteria



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: mildly autistic hall messiness



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Date: August 12th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: Spectacular Cream Jap

Also surprising: only 16,000 women per year freeze their eggs. I would have guessed much more based on how much it's discussed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50064614)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:46 PM
Author: Light jewess public bath

It’s like an aspirational purse

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Date: August 13th, 2026 5:30 AM
Author: lemon plaza legal warrant



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Date: August 13th, 2026 9:15 AM
Author: At-the-ready point windowlicker



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Date: August 13th, 2026 10:02 AM
Author: lake site private investor



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Date: August 13th, 2026 5:36 AM
Author: mildly autistic hall messiness

Israel and the United States have vastly different landscapes when it comes to in vitro fertilization (IVF), largely due to how the two countries view, fund, and regulate reproductive healthcare.

Because nations track IVF data by "cycles per million people" and "percentage of live births" rather than the flat percentage of all living women, here is how the two countries compare:

1. Access and Affordability

* Israel (100% Access): Israel offers the greatest per-capita access to IVF in the world. It is the only country that fully subsidizes unlimited IVF cycles through its national healthcare system. Any female citizen up to age 45 is eligible for state-funded IVF until she has up to two children with her current partner—regardless of her marital status or sexual orientation.

* United States (~25% Access): Access in the US is heavily restricted by income and insurance. A single IVF cycle often costs between $12,000 and $15,000+ out-of-pocket, and insurance mandates vary wildly by state. The American Society for Reproductive Medicine estimates that only 1 in 4 (25%) of infertile couples in the US can actually access and afford the fertility assistance they need.

2. Utilization and Outcomes

Because of this financial barrier, Israeli women consume IVF at a drastically higher rate than American women.

| Metric | Israel | United States |

|---|---|---|

| Annual IVF Cycles | ~5,000 to 5,700 per million people | ~1,200 per million people |

| Births Resulting from IVF | 4.5% to 5.8% of all births | 2% to 2.3% of all births |

(Note: US cycle estimates are based on the latest CDC data showing roughly 413,000 ART cycles initiated in 2021 for a population of ~330 million. Israel's rates have historically hovered above 5,000 per million, more than quadruple the US rate.)

Why is the gap so large?

Beyond the financial differences, Israel is a highly pronatalist society. Demographic competition, religious directives (the biblical commandment to "be fruitful and multiply"), and historical memory all drive a powerful cultural imperative to have children. While the US treats IVF largely as a private, elective medical service, Israel views subsidized reproduction as a fundamental right and a matter of national policy.

When comparing IVF between Israel and the United States, a fascinating paradox emerges: Israel has over five times the per capita access to IVF, but the United States reports a significantly higher success rate per individual cycle.

Here is the breakdown of the numbers and the cultural and financial reasons behind them.

1. Per Capita Usage (The Access Gap)

Nations track IVF access by looking at the number of cycles performed per one million inhabitants.

* Israel: Israel is by far the world leader in IVF utilization, performing roughly 5,300 to 5,711 cycles per 1 million people annually.

* United States: Despite performing a massive total volume of cycles nationwide, the US lags far behind in per capita access, performing only 922 cycles per 1 million people.

(Israel performs over five times more IVF per capita than the US.)

2. Success Rates (Live Births per Cycle)

When tracking success, the standard medical metric is the live-birth rate per cycle—how many cycles actually result in a baby being born, rather than just a positive pregnancy test.

| Metric | Israel | United States |

|---|---|---|

| Average Live-Birth Rate (All Ages) | ~14.4% – 17.2% | 37.5% |

| Live-Birth Rate (Under 35) | Data blended into national avg | 42.8% |

| Live-Birth Rate (Over 40) | ~5.2% | 10.3% – 27.7% (drops steeply past age 42) |

(Note: US data reflects the 2022 CDC National ART Summary. Israeli data reflects historical Ministry of Health and Maccabi registry tracking.)

3. The Paradox: Why are US success rates higher?

It seems counterintuitive that the country with the best access has a lower per-cycle success rate, but it comes down to how the treatments are funded:

* The "Free vs. Out-of-Pocket" Filter: In the US, IVF is heavily privatized. Because of this immense financial burden, American patients and clinics are highly selective. If a woman has a very low statistical chance of success due to age or diminished ovarian reserve, she will often stop treatment early or switch to using donor eggs so she doesn't spend money on a cycle unlikely to succeed. This artificially inflates the US national success average.

* Unlimited Tries in Israel: In Israel, the national health basket fully funds practically unlimited IVF cycles up to age 45 for eligible patients. Because there is no financial penalty for trying again, Israeli women continue to undergo cycles well into their 40s. Even when the statistical chance of a live birth drops to around 5% for older patients, they keep trying because the state covers the cost.

The Bottom Line: While the US has a higher chance of success on a single attempt, the cumulative chance of a woman eventually having a child is exceptionally high in Israel because she can undergo multiple rounds of IVF without facing financial ruin.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50065058)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 10:47 AM
Author: boyish painfully honest business firm party of the first part

Everything about these numbers seems off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50065363)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 5:13 PM
Author: hyperactive pearly brethren stock car

agreed. does that mean there are fewer surrogate pregnancies per year than that, or are those calculated in a separate bucket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50066150)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:14 PM
Author: geriatric home travel guidebook

That's a lot worse than I would have suspected

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50064652)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:46 PM
Author: Light jewess public bath

Cr. It’s a really depressing stat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50064704)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 8:25 AM
Author: cerebral honey-headed national

how so? a lot of them probably end up conceiving naturally and not needing to use the frozen eggs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50065145)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 10:03 AM
Author: lake site private investor

Lmao

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Date: August 13th, 2026 1:45 PM
Author: Light jewess public bath

Obviously you’re an optimist

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Date: August 13th, 2026 11:09 PM
Author: cerebral honey-headed national

i truly am

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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: Light jewess public bath

XO Meme come to life

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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:48 PM
Author: Impertinent peach hell

egg-freezing is not a fertility strategy. it's more like a psychological cope for women who don't want to admit to themselves that they will never have kids. a form of mental therapy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50064713)



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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: marvelous navy school cafeteria



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Date: August 13th, 2026 5:32 AM
Author: mildly autistic hall messiness

God is real

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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: mildly autistic hall messiness

its a 50-80k scam by JewMedical Complex

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Date: August 12th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: mildly autistic hall messiness

holy shit 180 so all these shrews are fucked!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50064725)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 8:28 AM
Author: cerebral honey-headed national

no, that's how many end up having a child from the frozen eggs. it doesn't say how many of them end up conceiving naturally.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50065146)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 9:48 AM
Author: big-titted avocado senate

right, it doesnt imply what percentage of the frozen eggs are actually attempted to be used and what percentage of those uses succeed/fail

i think this is what matters: "the cumulative live birth rate of all patients undergoing oocyte warming was 28.9%"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50065233)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 9:15 AM
Author: At-the-ready point windowlicker

what percentage of "nuts" actually result in a child. the % must be unfathomably low. the entire process is a sham ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50065191)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 9:57 AM
Author: Spectacular Cream Jap

(Onan)

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Date: August 13th, 2026 10:46 AM
Author: Disrespectful church building pistol



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Date: August 13th, 2026 9:18 AM
Author: medicated background story

One clinic I worked with was entering bankrupty and LOL we were like, who owns the CUM and EGGS now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50065198)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 9:59 AM
Author: At-the-ready point windowlicker

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Date: August 13th, 2026 10:02 AM
Author: Spectacular Cream Jap

There is an Alabama SCOTUS case that says the frozen embryos are unborn children and laws related to death of children apply to them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50065268)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 5:15 PM
Author: Ivory Macaca

they just pour it down a sink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50066154)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 5:18 PM
Author: jet godawful nibblets gay wizard

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Date: August 13th, 2026 9:58 AM
Author: Learning disabled talking casino skinny woman

what about bros who freeze their heads like Ted Williams

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50065259)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 10:19 AM
Author: lake site private investor

I've known many women that have frozen their eggs and not a single one has wound up trying for a kid so far.

The fact is that if a woman in her mid 30s isn't *very* actively trying to get knocked up she never will. The type of woman that is still unsure but wants to keep her options open isn't likely to finally make such a major decision if she was uncertain at 29, 30, 31...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50065289)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 10:44 AM
Author: boyish painfully honest business firm party of the first part

Whoa, guess we beat all the odds. Our ivf baby is 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50065349)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 10:55 AM
Author: lake site private investor

Did you use frozen eggs? IVF uses fresh eggs first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50065382)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 11:04 AM
Author: boyish painfully honest business firm party of the first part

Ivf is just in vitro fertilization, fresh or frozen. We used frozen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50065396)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 11:32 AM
Author: lake site private investor

I understand I was just making sure you weren't talking about people who froze their eggs and then do IVF but have fresh eggs available to use.

Congrats on the kiddo!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50065436)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 11:21 AM
Author: bull headed cordovan locus

Have you captured him yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50065417)



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Date: August 13th, 2026 12:55 PM
Author: Maniacal church

That's with the frozen eggs; some of them may find a guy virile enough to fuck a baby into their aging womb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5892487&forum_id=2\u0026show=my",#50065569)