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Trailer for Christopher Nolan's Odyssey (link)

https://x.com/_filmcrave/status/2015709520379469890?s=61
Boyish Rusted Pit
  01/26/26
where'd trailer go?
Cerise Locus Background Story
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It's a shame Nolan is a mediocre visual director. The color...
violent base dopamine
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supposedly the cyclops is a metaphor for ICE
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Because ICE is retarded and let's everyone get away?
violent base dopamine
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they didnt have any color Before Christ
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Nolan is one of the most overrated directors. It's good to s...
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"No no, the audio is unintelligible ON PURPOSE!"
talking field weed whacker
  01/26/26
So the trailer implies that the Trojans were stabbing into t...
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Cracking sanctuary
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Yes but you wouldn't be able to see it on a Nolan lit film
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theres a scene where ody wipes off the blood
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Metaphor for anal buttfucking
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Idiotic Puppy Lay
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looks rather drab in the art design department, for some rea...
light tattoo alpha
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Cr, looks like yet another THOOO DARK CGI fest.
Walnut Zombie-like Senate
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Circe's island should be sumptuous as fuck
violent base dopamine
  01/26/26
This looks like shit man, wtf If this is the best footage...
aromatic locale becky
  01/26/26
the screenplay for The Dark Knight is one of the worst I've ...
henna massive hairy legs partner
  01/26/26
His brother, Jonathan Nolan, is a great writer IMO. Behind a...
Irradiated bbw
  01/26/26
its all talk. pages of exposition. and the theme over and ov...
henna massive hairy legs partner
  01/26/26
That’s why Oppenheimer sucked, all TELLING and no show...
Cocky nowag
  01/26/26
never read it... but the movie it produced is great
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disagree. but I get it, obviously the movie has a ton of fan...
henna massive hairy legs partner
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You aren't wrong imho. On the page, The Dark Knight is an un...
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https://x.com/thecinesthetic/status/2015716034662260873?s=61
Boyish Rusted Pit
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Nolan's legacy as a director will be a glorious paen to the ...
sinister bateful stead
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https://ibb.co/274y6Ck7
Federal center
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Legitimately won't see it based on this alone.
Irradiated bbw
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The art direction looks like an episode of Xena Warrior Prin...
soul-stirring opaque cuckoldry library
  01/26/26
who brought the nigger?
Cerise Locus Background Story
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That's Famed Rapper Travis Scott btw
soul-stirring opaque cuckoldry library
  01/26/26
lot of black dudes in ancient Ithaca lol?
Cerise Locus Background Story
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https://x.com/discussingfilm/status/2015559383934022041?s=61
Boyish Rusted Pit
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Looks boring as fuck. Is it too late to replace Nolan with T...
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Would be fun to take 10 directors, give them each $100 milli...
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Gilliam would be 180. he actually did with sean connery in T...
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“Have you seen my dad?” Just like a Homer wro...
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Why trash the only director that still makes good big budget...
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We're trashing the trailer. My hope is that they're exclusi...
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Have they shown that cutie Elliot Page yet?
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is this true? this is where i draw the line honestly ...
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https://variety.com/2025/film/news/elliot-page-the-odyssey-c...
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Why does it look completely AI generated
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i'm excited for it. nolan is overrated and i'm sure they'll ...
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Avengers Doomsday
Boyish Rusted Pit
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Rewatch Troy (2004) instead
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Date: January 26th, 2026 11:59 AM
Author: Boyish Rusted Pit

https://x.com/_filmcrave/status/2015709520379469890?s=61

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620191)



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Date: January 29th, 2026 1:06 PM
Author: Cerise Locus Background Story

where'd trailer go?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49630397)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 12:02 PM
Author: violent base dopamine

It's a shame Nolan is a mediocre visual director. The colors all look so washed out and muted.

Interesting that they're not teasing any of the monsters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620200)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 12:12 PM
Author: Plum fragrant kitchen brethren

supposedly the cyclops is a metaphor for ICE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620242)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:43 PM
Author: Marvelous location police squad

.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620628)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:46 PM
Author: violent base dopamine

Because ICE is retarded and let's everyone get away?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620645)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 12:31 PM
Author: Erotic startled set regret

they didnt have any color Before Christ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620331)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 12:09 PM
Author: magenta private investor

Nolan is one of the most overrated directors. It's good to see people finally start waking up to this and exposing him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620227)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 12:11 PM
Author: soul-stirring opaque cuckoldry library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620235)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 12:20 PM
Author: talking field weed whacker

"No no, the audio is unintelligible ON PURPOSE!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620284)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 12:22 PM
Author: talking field weed whacker

So the trailer implies that the Trojans were stabbing into the horse to test if anyone was inside and the Greeks got away with it by keeping quiet when they were stabbed? Wouldn't there be BLOOD on the sword?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620290)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 12:54 PM
Author: Cracking sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620442)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: soul-stirring opaque cuckoldry library

Yes but you wouldn't be able to see it on a Nolan lit film

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620539)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:29 PM
Author: aromatic locale becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620571)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:46 PM
Author: violent base dopamine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620646)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 6:18 PM
Author: Lake Territorial Theater Toilet Seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49621523)



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Date: January 28th, 2026 3:37 PM
Author: tan blood rage point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49627256)



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Date: January 28th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: Spectacular autistic double fault menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49627294)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:27 PM
Author: aggressive ratface

theres a scene where ody wipes off the blood

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620566)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:38 PM
Author: Walnut Zombie-like Senate

Metaphor for anal buttfucking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620595)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 6:31 PM
Author: Idiotic Puppy Lay

shrewd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49621551)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 12:25 PM
Author: light tattoo alpha

looks rather drab in the art design department, for some reason I always envisioned this story as a mythic phantasmagoria with bold colors and such.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620306)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 12:52 PM
Author: Walnut Zombie-like Senate

Cr, looks like yet another THOOO DARK CGI fest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620428)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:47 PM
Author: violent base dopamine

Circe's island should be sumptuous as fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620652)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: aromatic locale becky

This looks like shit man, wtf

If this is the best footage that they have so far to put in a preview, that is a really really bad sign

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620312)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 12:49 PM
Author: henna massive hairy legs partner

the screenplay for The Dark Knight is one of the worst I've ever read. screenwriting 101 students at my local community college could do better. He is a very good director (not great), but his skills are technical and he needs to remove himself from the creative aspect.

if he wrote and produced The Odyssey - it will not be all that good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620416)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:28 PM
Author: Irradiated bbw

His brother, Jonathan Nolan, is a great writer IMO. Behind a lot of Christopher's best work and some good TV as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620569)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:41 PM
Author: henna massive hairy legs partner

its all talk. pages of exposition. and the theme over and over ("Chaos!"). the first rule is show-dont-tell. I would prefer Nolan take a script from a true pro like Sheridan or Gilroy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620614)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 7:45 PM
Author: Cocky nowag

That’s why Oppenheimer sucked, all TELLING and no showing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49621759)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 5:22 PM
Author: Razzmatazz amethyst international law enforcement agency

never read it... but the movie it produced is great



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49621366)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 5:26 PM
Author: henna massive hairy legs partner

disagree. but I get it, obviously the movie has a ton of fans. I liked ledger's Joker, but other than that the acting was bad, the plot silly and the locations boring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49621384)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 6:09 PM
Author: flushed bearded ladyboy

You aren't wrong imho. On the page, The Dark Knight is an unpleasant read. The dialogue is declarative to the point of parody. Characters speak as if they are issuing position papers, not revealing interior life. Motivation is telescoped, psychology is implied rather than earned, and Dent’s collapse is so aggressively expedited that it reads less like tragedy than like a logical operation. In isolation, the screenplay violates almost every norm contemporary screenwriting culture fetishizes: voice, texture, gradual transformation, emotional specificity. If you handed this script to a development executive without context, it would die in coverage.

The mistake critics make is assuming the screenplay is intended as a literary object. It isn’t imo. It’s instrumental writing. Nolan’s scripts are not meant to persuade through prose; they are meant to survive translation into image, duration, and montage. What looks like bad writing on the page is in fact intentional austerity, a stripping away of anything that would interfere with structural clarity once the Film enters motion. The characters are thin because thickness would be catastrophic. This film does not want psychology; it wants operability. Batman is not underwritten imo. He is deliberately depersonalized into a civic symbol. The Joker is not shallow fwiw. He is a destabilizing variable, closer to a theorem than a man. Demanding depth from him misunderstands his function entirely. Yes, Dent turns too fast. But that speed is not incompetence; it’s refusal. The film rejects the bourgeois fantasy that moral collapse must be slow, intimate, and cathartic. It asserts instead that legitimacy is fragile, that institutions fail abruptly, and that chaos does not wait for character development. IOW, the screenplay is “bad” in precisely the ways required for the film to exist. A more elegant, humane, psychologically persuasive script would have softened the argument. It would have reintroduced comfort. It would have lied. Nolan sacrifices the page to preserve the structure. That tradeoff produces a script that reads crude, even amateurish, to people trained to equate polish with intelligence. But the ugliness is load-bearing. Remove it, and the film collapses into just another well-written nothing imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49621502)



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Date: January 27th, 2026 10:04 AM
Author: Razzmatazz amethyst international law enforcement agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49623007)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 12:50 PM
Author: Boyish Rusted Pit

https://x.com/thecinesthetic/status/2015716034662260873?s=61

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620420)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 12:59 PM
Author: sinister bateful stead

Nolan's legacy as a director will be a glorious paen to the hegemonic/totalizing ideology of the Western tradition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620458)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:19 PM
Author: Federal center

https://ibb.co/274y6Ck7

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620531)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:27 PM
Author: Irradiated bbw

Legitimately won't see it based on this alone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620771)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:21 PM
Author: soul-stirring opaque cuckoldry library

The art direction looks like an episode of Xena Warrior Princess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620540)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:27 PM
Author: Cerise Locus Background Story

who brought the nigger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620565)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:40 PM
Author: soul-stirring opaque cuckoldry library

That's Famed Rapper Travis Scott btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620605)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:48 PM
Author: Cerise Locus Background Story

lot of black dudes in ancient Ithaca lol?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620660)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:05 PM
Author: Boyish Rusted Pit

https://x.com/discussingfilm/status/2015559383934022041?s=61

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49621055)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:47 PM
Author: titillating milk

Looks boring as fuck. Is it too late to replace Nolan with Terry Gilliam?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620651)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:48 PM
Author: violent base dopamine

Would be fun to take 10 directors, give them each $100 million, and have them do 10 different versions of the Odyssey.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620661)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:07 PM
Author: titillating milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49621063)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:07 PM
Author: offensive goyim filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49621064)



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Date: January 27th, 2026 9:35 AM
Author: filthy mildly autistic famous landscape painting national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49622938)



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Date: January 27th, 2026 12:08 PM
Author: offensive goyim filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49623373)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 5:09 PM
Author: henna massive hairy legs partner

Gilliam would be 180. he actually did with sean connery in Time Bandits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49621302)



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Date: January 27th, 2026 12:09 PM
Author: offensive goyim filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49623376)



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Date: January 28th, 2026 2:58 PM
Author: Cerise Locus Background Story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49627123)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 2:54 PM
Author: Insecure University

“Have you seen my dad?”

Just like a Homer wrote it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620831)



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Date: January 27th, 2026 12:09 PM
Author: offensive goyim filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49623377)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 3:13 PM
Author: hairraiser ceo chapel

Why trash the only director that still makes good big budget movies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49620881)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 4:21 PM
Author: violent base dopamine

We're trashing the trailer. My hope is that they're exclusively showing Iliad scenes. Apparently his version is going to go hard on violation of guest rites and the final massacre.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49621116)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 6:29 PM
Author: Beady-eyed hyperactive shrine

Have they shown that cutie Elliot Page yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49621548)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 6:31 PM
Author: Federal center

is this true?

this is where i draw the line honestly

makes no sense to have this twink anywhere in this movie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49621555)



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Date: January 26th, 2026 7:15 PM
Author: Beady-eyed hyperactive shrine

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/elliot-page-the-odyssey-christopher-nolan-1236547517/

And Zendaya is in this too!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49621673)



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Date: January 27th, 2026 9:52 AM
Author: Drab sneaky criminal

Why does it look completely AI generated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49622981)



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Date: January 27th, 2026 10:00 AM
Author: Salmon Metal Institution Internal Respiration

i'm excited for it. nolan is overrated and i'm sure they'll trojan horse some dei shit in. but in the landscape of 2026 media what appears to be a mostly faithful, big budget retelling of a classic story is exciting. what other slop competes with this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49622999)



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Date: January 27th, 2026 10:51 AM
Author: Boyish Rusted Pit

Avengers Doomsday

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49623145)



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Date: January 27th, 2026 11:40 AM
Author: Appetizing Psychic School

Train Dreams 4: Next Stop, Saturn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49623274)



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Date: January 27th, 2026 12:09 PM
Author: Federal center

Gbtr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49623379)



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Date: January 28th, 2026 3:35 PM
Author: Vengeful Arousing Cuck

Rewatch Troy (2004) instead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5826871&forum_id=2\u0026show=my#49627240)



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Date: January 28th, 2026 3:36 PM
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