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Mass Effect Andromeda singlehandedly killed a very promising scifi IP

Brutal mismanagement of something that potentially had a lot...
white talented chapel
  05/02/22
https://youtu.be/5b6qH48bslA
white talented chapel
  05/02/22
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white talented chapel
  05/03/22
Huge hype leading up to it, nearly unprecedented for a video...
wine vibrant stage keepsake machete
  05/02/22
Which is insane given that EA was keenly aware of the develo...
white talented chapel
  05/02/22
EA makes shitty games exclusively ime
bossy duck-like school
  05/03/22
We're talking about EA as publisher, not as an EA-created st...
white talented chapel
  05/03/22
That’s even worse. They just crack the whip on Nerds. ...
bossy duck-like school
  05/03/22
Well the games got pretty bad after the release of 2 but up ...
white talented chapel
  05/03/22
But ME1 was exclusive to 360. It MUST be intellectually vaca...
bossy duck-like school
  05/03/22
You put too much stock in the power of a console over the me...
white talented chapel
  05/03/22
Have you played Earthworm Jim or Mortal Kombat on SNES? Or m...
bossy duck-like school
  05/03/22
I got a copy of MM64 from the bargain bin at goodwill a few ...
white talented chapel
  05/03/22
What console were the Oddworld games on? Those are the Earth...
white talented chapel
  05/04/22
PS1, shamefully. it became Xbox-exclusive after that haha
bossy duck-like school
  05/04/22
ME3 actually
Chartreuse orchestra pit headpube
  05/02/22
Rightly or wrongly the shitty release got blamed on other fa...
white talented chapel
  05/02/22
the moment-to-moment gameplay in ME3 is the best in the seri...
glassy set
  05/02/22
This is what I've heard. Supposedly the level of playstyle c...
white talented chapel
  05/02/22
ME3 was fantastic until literally like the final twenty minu...
swashbuckling church dingle berry
  05/03/22
the DLC is so good too (except Omega which is kind of lame)....
glassy set
  05/04/22
I read about the fan service party mission thing and found t...
white talented chapel
  05/04/22
the writing in 3 isn't much worse (if at all) than the writi...
glassy set
  05/04/22
The overarching plot writing in 2 was worse than 1 for sure ...
white talented chapel
  05/04/22
Which killed the franchise They literally had to apologiz...
Chartreuse orchestra pit headpube
  05/04/22
games like that get worse as the in-universe stakes get high...
shivering demanding address
  05/03/22
2's ending was cool but I'd have liked the main villains to ...
white talented chapel
  05/03/22
libs, women, skin suits etc https://www.reddit.com/r/pcga...
Scarlet thirsty field
  05/03/22
Female game developers are occasionally very talented and cr...
white talented chapel
  05/03/22
andromeda didn't deserve the hate it got
Mahogany love of her life resort
  05/04/22
it's definitely not a bad game, just not as good as ME1-3. r...
indigo bespoke doctorate
  05/04/22
What
white talented chapel
  05/04/22
I enjoy bad games but I couldn't get more than a third throu...
white talented chapel
  05/04/22
Did you enjoy Quest 64
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  05/04/22
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things from the 90s/00s so ethereal and dreamlike:
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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:05 PM
Author: white talented chapel

Brutal mismanagement of something that potentially had a lot of cultural staying power

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44442949)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:18 PM
Author: white talented chapel

https://youtu.be/5b6qH48bslA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44443103)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:28 PM
Author: white talented chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44451202)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:06 PM
Author: wine vibrant stage keepsake machete

Huge hype leading up to it, nearly unprecedented for a video game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44442959)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:07 PM
Author: white talented chapel

Which is insane given that EA was keenly aware of the development hell that the game was stuck in

Iirc Bioware pulled dev responsibilities away from their primary studio (to have them work on Dragon Age) while dumping this half finished over-promised pile of shit onto Bioware Montreal, which was a reorganized "finisher" studio known primarily for shovelware at that time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44442976)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:31 PM
Author: bossy duck-like school

EA makes shitty games exclusively ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44451228)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:33 PM
Author: white talented chapel

We're talking about EA as publisher, not as an EA-created studio

Bioware was purchased by EA shortly before the ME2 release iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44451247)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:35 PM
Author: bossy duck-like school

That’s even worse. They just crack the whip on Nerds. I’m surprised “BioWare” ever made anything decent if EA owned them. I’ve always stayed away from their games just bc they’re similar to Other Games that already exist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44451263)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:43 PM
Author: white talented chapel

Well the games got pretty bad after the release of 2 but up until then it was still largely (at that time) the studio that brought us Baldur's Gate and KOTOR. The writing for ME was typically interesting and occasionally thought provoking at certain points

The main plot is an enjoyable Space Bond (Craig bond) trek through interesting alien environments that often broach on good executions of high quality high concept scifi. They were pretty good games all in all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44451315)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:56 PM
Author: bossy duck-like school

But ME1 was exclusive to 360. It MUST be intellectually vacant imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44451398)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:58 PM
Author: white talented chapel

You put too much stock in the power of a console over the media put into it

Unless it physically can't render the text necessary for it, good storytelling and writing can be found on most consoles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44451410)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:03 PM
Author: bossy duck-like school

Have you played Earthworm Jim or Mortal Kombat on SNES? Or mega man 64? It just feels wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44451429)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:20 PM
Author: white talented chapel

I got a copy of MM64 from the bargain bin at goodwill a few months back and ended up playing it late one night

Extremely intense game, almost veers into a Glover or Nights into Dreams dreamscape experience at times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44451538)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:29 AM
Author: white talented chapel

What console were the Oddworld games on? Those are the Earthworm Jims of whatever that box was

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44452198)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 6:17 AM
Author: bossy duck-like school

PS1, shamefully. it became Xbox-exclusive after that haha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44452610)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:08 PM
Author: Chartreuse orchestra pit headpube

ME3 actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44442984)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:11 PM
Author: white talented chapel

Rightly or wrongly the shitty release got blamed on other factors and a series as popular and involved as ME gets a mulligan, for better or for worse. I also heard that the multiplayer in 3 was a lot of fun

Andromeda was the point of no return; people basically stopped talking about the franchise entirely after that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44443019)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:12 PM
Author: glassy set

the moment-to-moment gameplay in ME3 is the best in the series by a long shot, and still holds up well today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44443032)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:15 PM
Author: white talented chapel

This is what I've heard. Supposedly the level of playstyle customization in 3's MP was good

Unfortunately the gameplay in these is Gears of War c. 2008 derivative stuff imo and a franchise like this lives or dies on the strength of its storytelling, which Andromeda completely failed on every level from world building down to basic dialogue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44443062)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:37 PM
Author: swashbuckling church dingle berry

ME3 was fantastic until literally like the final twenty minutes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44451277)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:02 AM
Author: glassy set

the DLC is so good too (except Omega which is kind of lame). I love the mining asteroid mission so much, incredible atmosphere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44452111)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:13 AM
Author: white talented chapel

I read about the fan service party mission thing and found the dialogue in it cringe enough to not want to give it a shot

There was a yuge drop in writing quality between two and three---EA supposedly stuffed some unqualified women in somewhere and Bioware hired a few cowgog AVGN fat guys of their own to muck things up

Iirc this was around the time we started seeing the stuff we now know (and still don't understand) as Gamergate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44452157)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:22 AM
Author: glassy set

the writing in 3 isn't much worse (if at all) than the writing in 2. the loyalty missions in 2 seem good at first but it's incredibly stupid that nearly all of them boil down to "fix this guy's daddy issues". 2 is the worst game in the trilogy overall on a mechanical level too, just an absolute slog on higher difficulties

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44452181)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:27 AM
Author: white talented chapel

The overarching plot writing in 2 was worse than 1 for sure but I thought that the dialogue much better than 1s. Lol I know what you mean, I think they used that 2-3 times throughout

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44452192)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 9:21 AM
Author: Chartreuse orchestra pit headpube

Which killed the franchise

They literally had to apologize for how bad the ending was and release a DLC to try and fix it and the creative director stepped down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44453047)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:04 PM
Author: shivering demanding address

games like that get worse as the in-universe stakes get higher

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44451435)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:18 PM
Author: white talented chapel

2's ending was cool but I'd have liked the main villains to be something other than the robot harvesters and instead focus on character development more throughout instead of spending so much time hyping an already revealed threat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44451526)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:10 PM
Author: Scarlet thirsty field

libs, women, skin suits etc

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/6067ku/bioware_statement_on_mass_effect_andromeda_lead/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44451471)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:14 PM
Author: white talented chapel

Female game developers are occasionally very talented and creative tbf

Jason Schreier did a very good article for Kotaku that laid out where the different elements of this game all went wrong: https://kotaku.com/the-story-behind-mass-effect-andromedas-troubled-five-1795886428/amp

His politics are spotty but he's still a 174 journalist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44451501)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:54 AM
Author: Mahogany love of her life resort

andromeda didn't deserve the hate it got

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44452259)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:59 AM
Author: indigo bespoke doctorate

it's definitely not a bad game, just not as good as ME1-3. reasonably enjoyable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44452269)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 2:04 AM
Author: white talented chapel

What

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44452279)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 2:04 AM
Author: white talented chapel

I enjoy bad games but I couldn't get more than a third through this one

Obtuse, poorly designed crafting, atrocious dialogue, poorly conceived and written main characters, obnoxious quests and quest systems, etc. Company members leaking stuff to the press or forums that showed that so and so was aware of the state of the game pre-launch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44452278)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 6:18 AM
Author: bossy duck-like school

Did you enjoy Quest 64

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#44452611)



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Date: March 8th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: things from the 90s/00s so ethereal and dreamlike:



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49726959)