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just drank with incoming first year grad students. all dipshits

none of them knew anything about the field or the interests ...
Concupiscible doctorate
  08/30/14
what kind of dept?
milky hyperventilating home trump supporter
  08/30/14
not stem
Concupiscible doctorate
  08/30/14
LOL
Blathering Hominid Scourge Upon The Earth
  08/30/14
titcLOL
Buff Chad Stag Film
  08/30/14
a lot of grad students just make up their "interest&quo...
Geriatric Location Sandwich
  08/30/14
in theory the faculty they intend to work with should be abl...
Concupiscible doctorate
  08/30/14
tbf why is this bothering u
Geriatric Location Sandwich
  08/30/14
i know i was a dipshit when i was a first year, and i'm sure...
Concupiscible doctorate
  08/30/14
rank of program?
Geriatric Location Sandwich
  08/30/14
T10
Concupiscible doctorate
  08/30/14
then who cares if the program is FRAUD that is all of higher...
Geriatric Location Sandwich
  08/30/14
lol no
milky hyperventilating home trump supporter
  08/30/14
but I have no future so who cares cant i just hide out being...
Geriatric Location Sandwich
  08/30/14
thus continuing the circle of... 'why bother?' http://www.y...
Floppy Casino
  08/30/14
my field is more practical than anthro thank god
Geriatric Location Sandwich
  08/30/14
i see this clip when i dream sometimes, as well as the part ...
Concupiscible doctorate
  08/30/14
yes, most women are very impressed by unemployed PhDs
milky hyperventilating home trump supporter
  08/30/14
you can't even impress most proles with a phd dude, far less...
Concupiscible doctorate
  08/30/14
eh, i'll have to interact with them for years. i hope i'm ju...
Concupiscible doctorate
  08/30/14
what if I can get into a legit t3-5 program
Geriatric Location Sandwich
  08/30/14
then do it faggot. but be prepared to fight for surviving a ...
Concupiscible doctorate
  08/30/14
what if I truly have no other options in life what the FU...
Geriatric Location Sandwich
  08/30/14
if you have no other options you should probably do it. a go...
Concupiscible doctorate
  08/30/14
sounds like we should be friends man basically I have giv...
Geriatric Location Sandwich
  08/30/14
sounds like you've made your decision, friend. i'm not going...
Concupiscible doctorate
  08/30/14
yeah true, but if their interests/knowledge base aren't real...
milky hyperventilating home trump supporter
  08/30/14
fuck yr brain & the field u claim
Floppy Casino
  08/30/14
any of them worth hitting on?
seedy box office
  08/30/14
the women already have shrew bellies. i'm afraid.
Concupiscible doctorate
  08/30/14
any idea what the attrition rate in your dept is?
milky hyperventilating home trump supporter
  08/30/14
not entirely sure since plenty of all but dissertation stude...
Concupiscible doctorate
  08/30/14
bout avg I'd say. Attrition is the scariest part of the grad...
milky hyperventilating home trump supporter
  08/30/14
sucks man. what was your next move after attriting? just fac...
Concupiscible doctorate
  08/30/14
don't want to get into specifics but I got into writing/publ...
milky hyperventilating home trump supporter
  08/30/14
Update?
lex
  03/31/26
cliffs: best think carefully about pursuing a phd in a field...
charismatic ocher orchestra pit
  08/30/14
where did you cut and paste this from? LOL those old GRE sco...
milky hyperventilating home trump supporter
  08/30/14
the dude from uc riverside who blogs about phil admissions. ...
charismatic ocher orchestra pit
  08/30/14
to give some idea of how impressive those score are--and no ...
milky hyperventilating home trump supporter
  08/30/14
dretske published his ug work lol if you dont know who th...
charismatic ocher orchestra pit
  08/30/14
wow
milky hyperventilating home trump supporter
  08/30/14
what does this gibberish mean?
boyish theater stage
  08/30/14
i would sacrifice multiple children to teach at the universi...
Concupiscible doctorate
  08/30/14
5 years of toil to get me nowhere?? SIGN ME UP! tea...
Slippery center personal credit line
  08/30/14
...
milky hyperventilating home trump supporter
  08/30/14
tell me it was labatt blue
Motley Cerise Codepig Psychic
  08/30/14
"fake it til you make it with a labatt blue. soooooo cr...
Concupiscible doctorate
  08/30/14
...
Motley Cerise Codepig Psychic
  08/30/14
not flame, I saw my ABD art history TA working at a liquor s...
milky hyperventilating home trump supporter
  08/30/14
because you didn't buy labatt. he was too disgusted to face ...
Motley Cerise Codepig Psychic
  08/30/14
Wasn't this the plot of a Big Bang Theory episode?
Jet Office Mad-dog Skullcap
  08/30/14


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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:22 AM
Author: Concupiscible doctorate

none of them knew anything about the field or the interests they claimed. fuck my tiny pink department.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235176)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:22 AM
Author: milky hyperventilating home trump supporter

what kind of dept?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235178)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:23 AM
Author: Concupiscible doctorate

not stem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235179)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 6:15 PM
Author: Blathering Hominid Scourge Upon The Earth

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26238252)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 6:19 PM
Author: Buff Chad Stag Film

titcLOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26238263)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:23 AM
Author: Geriatric Location Sandwich

a lot of grad students just make up their "interest" so they get in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235182)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:24 AM
Author: Concupiscible doctorate

in theory the faculty they intend to work with should be able to evaluate whether someone is serious or not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235187)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:24 AM
Author: Geriatric Location Sandwich

tbf why is this bothering u

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235190)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:27 AM
Author: Concupiscible doctorate

i know i was a dipshit when i was a first year, and i'm sure many will improve, but there is a level of incompetence that strips any pretense of rigor. makes me wonder whether i'm doing anything but pretending well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235206)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:27 AM
Author: Geriatric Location Sandwich

rank of program?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235211)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:28 AM
Author: Concupiscible doctorate

T10

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235215)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:29 AM
Author: Geriatric Location Sandwich

then who cares if the program is FRAUD that is all of higher ed dude

just get ur top 10 Phd and tenure track gig after the post doc and let do

should I go get PhD? I have a serious research interest in a non-stem field

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235221)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:29 AM
Author: milky hyperventilating home trump supporter

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235226)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:30 AM
Author: Geriatric Location Sandwich

but I have no future so who cares cant i just hide out being a scholar drinking my lattes and teaching and being all pretentious and then getting a P H D and being all like yeayyy im smart then go get post doc and then bc like yaaaa im super smart and just live the life of the mind and then cop a gig in a cool college town or big city and be a shcolar and impress women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235232)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:32 AM
Author: Floppy Casino

thus continuing the circle of... 'why bother?'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrKHhiTdzmY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235243)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:34 AM
Author: Geriatric Location Sandwich

my field is more practical than anthro thank god

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235257)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:36 AM
Author: Concupiscible doctorate

i see this clip when i dream sometimes, as well as the part where archer mocks him for regretting the loss of his dissertation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235270)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:32 AM
Author: milky hyperventilating home trump supporter

yes, most women are very impressed by unemployed PhDs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235248)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:34 AM
Author: Concupiscible doctorate

you can't even impress most proles with a phd dude, far less women you actually want to fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235255)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:31 AM
Author: Concupiscible doctorate

eh, i'll have to interact with them for years. i hope i'm just being a dick and they're just nervous.

not sure i'd recommend it. even post-docs are hard to get these days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235239)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:34 AM
Author: Geriatric Location Sandwich

what if I can get into a legit t3-5 program

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235258)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:35 AM
Author: Concupiscible doctorate

then do it faggot. but be prepared to fight for surviving a high attrition rate and striving like mad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235266)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:39 AM
Author: Geriatric Location Sandwich

what if I truly have no other options in life

what the FUCK compels these people to still get a PhD? srsly? how do they justify it????

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235286)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:41 AM
Author: Concupiscible doctorate

if you have no other options you should probably do it. a good department will fund you, probably better than many shitjobs.

i'm here because i'm aspie and don't really care about normal people things, and have convinced myself i can beat the system. i suspect most people think they can win through ambition and talent, despite the odds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235293)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:48 AM
Author: Geriatric Location Sandwich

sounds like we should be friends man

basically I have given up on ever living the upper middle class life I was raised in, but I do have legit interests in teaching/this area of research/the small chance of being able to do consulting work outside of academia. I plan to just dedicate myself to the research and I do not plan to ever have children, most likely never get married

im surprisingly not aspie IRL but just a cynic, I guess

make more sense to apply for dat phd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235316)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:53 AM
Author: Concupiscible doctorate

sounds like you've made your decision, friend. i'm not going to talk you out of it. but i'd advise considering what you're going to do if you're out on your ass in five years without a job. if you have family support, no worries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235349)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:26 AM
Author: milky hyperventilating home trump supporter

yeah true, but if their interests/knowledge base aren't real then the faculty member gets fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235199)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:28 AM
Author: Floppy Casino

fuck yr brain & the field u claim

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235216)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:33 AM
Author: seedy box office

any of them worth hitting on?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235252)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:34 AM
Author: Concupiscible doctorate

the women already have shrew bellies. i'm afraid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235260)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:36 AM
Author: milky hyperventilating home trump supporter

any idea what the attrition rate in your dept is?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235267)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:37 AM
Author: Concupiscible doctorate

not entirely sure since plenty of all but dissertation students disappear, but seems like slightly less than half.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235274)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:38 AM
Author: milky hyperventilating home trump supporter

bout avg I'd say. Attrition is the scariest part of the grad school game, and I say this as someone who attrited myself. You have this group of highly intelligent people, all of whom know the stats and yet are super pumped to dive into the world of SCHOLARSHIP and half of them still fail. Unreal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235283)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:44 AM
Author: Concupiscible doctorate

sucks man. what was your next move after attriting? just face the job market doing paralegal shit or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235299)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:47 AM
Author: milky hyperventilating home trump supporter

don't want to get into specifics but I got into writing/publishing. coming from a T3 lit dept this was best case scenario and I had many sleepless night thinking "am I going to have to wait tables" and other horrible shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235314)



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Date: March 31st, 2026 11:38 PM
Author: lex

Update?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49785109)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:49 AM
Author: charismatic ocher orchestra pit

cliffs: best think carefully about pursuing a phd in a field without industry options

When I applied to graduate school in 1991, I had literally straight-A's from Stanford (except for an A- and a B+ my very first term and one A- later) with a liberal sprinking of A+'s (one semester I took four courses and received four A+'s), very strong GREs (800/790/750, back when it had three sections), what seems to me now in retrospect to be a good writing sample, and letters from leading philosophers (Fred Dretske, John Dupre, and P.J. Ivanhoe) one of whom later invited me to contribute to an anthology based on one of my undergraduate essays (and so presumably wrote a strong letter). I was not admitted to Harvard.

Although I haven't seen data on this, my impression is that most philosophy Ph.D. programs have completion rates of 50% or less; that most of the people who do finish take longer than advertised, often 7-9 years (though Stanford and Princeton have reputations for being quick); and that most of the people who drop out do so during the dissertation phase, after already having completed several years of study. I also suspect that women complete at substantially lower rates than men. (Why that should be is an interesting question!)

Those students who do complete their degrees don't always find tenure-track teaching jobs -- and those who do find tenure-track jobs often have to apply for several years, be willing to move anywhere in the country, and settle for schools they've never heard of. (If you're in a large metropolitan area and willing to teach at the community college level, and if you're patient about piecing together temporary "freeway flier" jobs for a few years, you may be able to stay local after graduation.) Students completing their degrees at top ten universities have a better chance of finding a job at a school they've heard of before, but are often not taken seriously as applicants at lower prestige schools.

Here's what happened to my entering class of eight at U.C. Berkeley (ranked about #3 or 4 nationally at the time were were admitted): One dropped out after the first year, two dropped out after 7-9 years, two completed their degrees after 7-9 years but never found permanent teaching positions, one ended up at a respectable but not renowned liberal arts college (Marquette) after about 12 years of study, one went to SUNY Albany after 6 years of study (then later moved to U.T. Austin), and one (I myself) went to U.C. Riverside after 6 years of study

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235322)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:52 AM
Author: milky hyperventilating home trump supporter

where did you cut and paste this from? LOL those old GRE scores are out of this world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235346)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:58 AM
Author: charismatic ocher orchestra pit

the dude from uc riverside who blogs about phil admissions. drunk and cant spell his name off the dome anyway but you can google it. better advice than a clitdick like brian leiter gives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235366)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 4:03 AM
Author: milky hyperventilating home trump supporter

to give some idea of how impressive those score are--and no I am not trying to humblebrag--I took the GRE in 2001 and scored 790V/740M/710A. My scores were good enough to get into the national 99.9% percentile high IQ society (no I didn't actually do this). This dude crushed my scores and has straight As from Stanford making him, objectively, one of the most accomplished undergrads in the entire country, and still he had a non-impressive outcome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235384)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 4:12 AM
Author: charismatic ocher orchestra pit

dretske published his ug work lol

if you dont know who that is just yeah substitute 4.0 at stanford ug, his gre, and a big name in your field stroking your ug clitdick in an anthology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Nicod_Prize

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235422)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 4:14 AM
Author: milky hyperventilating home trump supporter

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235430)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 6:14 PM
Author: boyish theater stage

what does this gibberish mean?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26238243)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:54 AM
Author: Concupiscible doctorate

i would sacrifice multiple children to teach at the university of nova scotia, so yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235354)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:58 AM
Author: Slippery center personal credit line

5 years of toil to get me nowhere?? SIGN ME UP!

teaching cholos at a community college has been my dream since childhood...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235363)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 5:17 PM
Author: milky hyperventilating home trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26237985)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:36 AM
Author: Motley Cerise Codepig Psychic

tell me it was labatt blue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235271)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:37 AM
Author: Concupiscible doctorate

"fake it til you make it with a labatt blue. soooooo cr!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235276)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:46 AM
Author: Motley Cerise Codepig Psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235310)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:42 AM
Author: milky hyperventilating home trump supporter

not flame, I saw my ABD art history TA working at a liquor store like 6 months after I had his class. He wouldn't even look at me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235294)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 3:46 AM
Author: Motley Cerise Codepig Psychic

because you didn't buy labatt. he was too disgusted to face you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235313)



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Date: August 30th, 2014 4:11 AM
Author: Jet Office Mad-dog Skullcap

Wasn't this the plot of a Big Bang Theory episode?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2660718&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#26235420)