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Date: July 31st, 2026 10:32 PM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band Bitch killed her 3 kids after sending hubby to pick up dinner. Then she crushes and swallows 30 pills, slits her throat and wrists, jumps out a second story window (blood on the floor, nightstand, window sill). Freezing temps coagulate her blood, she survives despite the hospital sending out a code blue (death or dying patient). She's paralyzed from the waist down.
Prosecution claims it was a fake suicide attempt. They haven't established any motive in this case. Defendant was not having an affair, had no financial motive or life to move on to. For months leading up to the incident she told her husband she was fantasizing about killing herself and the kids. She went to see a half dozen shrinks who put her on Seroquel which made her worse. Dozens of pill bottles found for various psychoactive medications.
The plea is not guilty by reason of insanity. Prosecutor seems overzealous. There's also a civil suit filed by the husband against all her docs for wrongful death. |
Date: July 31st, 2026 10:43 PM Author: diverse kitchen new version It does sound like insanity to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038145) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 10:52 PM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band Yep insanity is the patrician's choice.
The claims the pros has made are beyond the pale. That she was manipulative (based on leaving the baby sister detailed notes on when to feed and put the kids to sleep?), that she "just didn't want to be a mom" (all the photos with the kids seem happy, she wasn't trying to go clubbing or anything crazy afterwards). The suicide attempt wasn't real (seemed like she did everything she could possibly to end her life and was saved by freezing temps).
Meanwhile we have months of her reaching out to medical professionals saying "I'm losing it, I need help" and they threw a ton of medication at her that made her worse and worse. Seems like the state is just trying to defend the medical profession at all costs. At one point she went to a women's home in Rhode Island for mothers with post partum and they rejected her because she "wasn't a good fit." Lmao wtf. |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 10:53 PM Author: Mildly autistic wonderful striped hyena juggernaut problem is she seem to good at seeking help? who does that? kind of have to be very well Put Together. its susp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038159) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 10:55 PM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band how can you be too good at asking for help? Anyone who tells their husband they want to kill the kids is asking to be 5150'd and sent off to the nuthouse. She also kept a medication log of everything she took and after every day wrote "horrible intimate thoughts." What was she hiding? What was the setup? Still no motive from the state. Nothing even proffered. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038166) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 11:14 PM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band Subject: Polypharmism Seroquel Ativan Ambien Klonopin Valium Prozac Lamictal Remeron Trazadone
Yeah totally normal to be prescribed all this shit. |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 11:34 PM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel Sounds like a lot of failures to protect her and the kids by her doctors, her husband, the women's home, and the state. E.g., once it became clear enough that she was flailing and getting worse and a danger to the kids, the husband should have done whatever it takes to get them and gtfo.
Nonetheless, it doesn't sound like insanity, not any more than every mom who kills her kids is insane based on that alone. She knew what she was doing. She knew it was wrong. Therefore, she's not insane. The suicide attempt undermines the insanity defense, if anything.
Also, based on the above posts about the prosecution trying to say the docs were good: it sounds like they're taking the wrong approach and may fumble the case. |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 11:45 PM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band The prosecution theory is totally nuts and they're losing on their own terms. If the docs were good they need Lindsay to be doing something wrong. They said she checked herself out of treatment (after 5 days at McLean). They said she was pill shopping to get high (she said she hated benzos and wanted off them ASAP). The husband said she took every med diligently and was trying to get better. There's no motive, no malice. The manipulation claim was bunk. Everyone who knew her said she was a different person before the postpartum depression and psychosis kicked in.
Even if she's guilty, she's beating the charges the state laid out in their theory. Namely that she was a pill popping manipulator who wanted the easy way out and faked her suicide attempt. Literally none of that is true.
The only argument for criminal responsibility is that she did it premeditated. She googled how to kill, sent her husband out of the house (even though she had other previous chances like two days he was out of town and would invariably have had more). So if you think G based on that then I can't sway you. But factually the prosecution theory is very weak. A woman who was legitimately nuts and had no motive who reached out for help snapped. But literally nothing the prosecution is claiming is true. |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 11:55 PM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel Prosecution sounds like they are unnecessarily getting into extraneous details and losing the forest for the trees. There is no dispute that she did it. There is evidence that she made and executed a plan to do. And they have points to argue that the defense won't meet their burden (and it is their burden) to prove insanity.
What's the other stuff the prosecution is claiming? Why are they getting away from the core story? |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:10 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band I don't know but you're right they have allowed so much into this case that doesn't benefit them. Staking everything on it was a fake suicide attempt when they have photos of blood everywhere, the neck wound is a horrific gaping hole, and she's paralyzed for life is a really odd tack.
Not to mention the prosecutor is a fat woman with Hillary Clinton vibes who seems like she went to Suffolk Law and has risen to the highest level of her own incompetence, and the defense bro is a local Boston Chad who says things like "it was wicked cold that night" (this shit happened at like 5pm which is nighttime in New England already). |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:13 AM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel Lawyers often have the combined problems of trying to be too clever and trying to issue spot and address every little detail, when they should focus on hammering home the key, favorable points and not getting lost in arguing about these details, especially when they have the burden. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038335) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:16 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band One legal analyst on YouTube said defense bro played it extremely cool on the worst day for the defendant. It was four hours of direct of all the first responders talking about the crime scene with three dead kids. He passed on every cross. Shortened the day, got it over with. The only thing he said all day was he thanked one officer for their service. He's running circles around the flatulent pros bitch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038343) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:17 AM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038344) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:33 AM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038385) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:14 AM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness prosecutor also appears UNMARRIED ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038340) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:17 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band She looks like she can absolutely crush a ham sandwich. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038345) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:34 AM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel What's up with disputing the suicide attempt? Seems unhelpful at best. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038391) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:38 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band They had nothing else to go on and came up with a shitty theory and now they have to double down. The prosecutor actually said her neck wound was superficial because they didn't have to suture it until the next day lol. It looked like a horrific hole in her neck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038403) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:53 AM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel But why even get into it at all? Either leave out the details of it as irrelevant and unhelpful, or try to spin it as showing she knew what she was doing and it was all part of her plan. Accusing the wheelchair bound defendant of faking is never going to work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038425) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:58 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band What do you think a Norfolk County prosecutor is working with? You're gonna lawshrew but not work for WLRK? These aren't top performers in the field lol. These aren't 180 LSATs. These people are mid af. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038439) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 1:02 AM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel I'm not asking for Clarance Darrow-esque advocacy. Just a little bit if thinking things through and playing to your strengths. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038446) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 1:03 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band She's in the buffet line right now loading up. She's watching Love Island flicking her enormous bean. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038450) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 11:52 PM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness A defendant in Massachusetts can be found not guilty by reason of lack of criminal responsibility even if they fully understood their actions were illegal/wrong, provided a mental disease or defect deprived them of the capacity to control their conduct. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038276) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 11:55 PM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band Yes. Also another quirk of MA law. The burden is on the prosecution to prove that the defendant wasn't nuts. The defendant doesn't have to prove they were nuts. The jury instructions will ask if the state proved that she wasn't, but tie goes to the defendant if it's not beyond a reasonable doubt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038286) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 11:55 PM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness damn seems like she's got pretty good odds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038288) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:01 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band The state has to be running out of witnesses at this point, and they're not strong. Everyone is holding their breath for the defense experts. They will put shrinks on the stand to testify about all the well established side effects of the medication she was on. Psychosis is a known side effect. She told her husband repeatedly that the Seroquel was making her worse. They upped the dosage. Her docs threw more and more pills at her. I think the defense will wipe the floor by the end of it. After the defense's star witness it will be hard to convict a lady who reached out for help and had 13 different psychotropics shoved in her face. She's going to skate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038303) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:15 AM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness seems cr to me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038342) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:20 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band It's also cartoonishly obvious that the state is overcharging as a defense of the medical community because white collar shitlibs stick together. They're suing the fuck out of the docs and so the lawyers stepped in and said we can still fuck them. So obvious the coastal elite cabal. They all vacation in the same places. Fuck these effete liberal scum and the system they wield against the enemies of their interests. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038351) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:21 AM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness could not agree more. psychiatry is a joke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038354) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:22 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band We've had a few poasters sent to Bellevue and they're still out here poasting schizoid shit, why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038358) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:23 AM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness psychiatry doesn't work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038360) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:24 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band What should be done with nutjobs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038362) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:27 AM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness not an expert but they should've probably listened more closely to rd laing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038371) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:29 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band What were his views writ large (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038376) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:33 AM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness faggy shit mostly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038384) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 11:58 PM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel That's an insane insanity standard. We barely have free will, if we do at all. MA let's defendants use "I couldn't help myself" as a 1 weird trick? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038297) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:02 AM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness it's in the model code brother
"...or to conform his conduct to the requirements of law." |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:09 AM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel Ok, yeah, she probably walks. Here's their jury instruction. It's hard to see how anyone is guilty when the state has the burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they could have stopped themselves. I wonder if anyone has tried to get a philosopher expert in to opine on that.
The second way for the Commonwealth to prove a defendant was criminally responsible for their conduct is for the Commonwealth to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that, even if the defendant suffered from a mental disease or defect at the time of the alleged offense, the defendant nonetheless retained the substantial capacity to appreciate the wrongfulness or criminality of their conduct and to conform their conduct to the requirements of the law. To establish that the defendant had the substantial capacity to appreciate the wrongfulness or criminality of their conduct, the Commonwealth must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant appreciated – that is, that the defendant knew or understood in some meaningful way – that their conduct was either illegal or wrong. To establish that the defendant had the substantial capacity to conform their conduct to the law’s requirements, the Commonwealth must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that any mental disease or defect that may have existed at the time of the alleged offense did not deprive the defendant of their ability to behave as the law requires – that is, to obey the law.
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:12 AM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness that's crazy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038332) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:18 AM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel A methhead robbing a gas station genuinely probably can't help himself when he's really jonseing. Just do make him not guilty because he really wanted to get his fix. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038347) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:22 AM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness this case seems like a good application of it (though burden doesn't seem right). she told numerous ppl she was gonna kill the kids and took most/all steps available to her to avoid it, at great personal and physical cost, outside of leaving the house permanently (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038359) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:30 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band But she CHECKED herself out of the mental hospital! (prosecution) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038377) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:33 AM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel Putting aside Massachusetts' unusual standard (under which i think she'll be acquitted), she should be found guilty. She knew she was a threat to the kids. She knew hurting them was wrong. She should have done more to avoid it--whatever it took. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038383) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:34 AM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness yeah could be (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038390) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:37 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band How do you think the husband feels? He was 100% sound of mind. She wasn't. She told him about hurting the kids. How do you not flip a switch and get her out of there? He seemed a little blue pilled and beta. He was stressed out by her insomnia. He was a kind and caring guy but T levels were disastrously low. He should have gotten far away from her until she was able to recover. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038399) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:48 AM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel Yep. Absolutely awful. Should have done the needful once it was clear she was losing it and might hurt the kids.
Too many people just slide and let do because it can be tough to do what you gotta do. ("I know I should leave and protect the kids, but it could hurt my career because it will be tough to arrange child care this week, so I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and hope nothing too bad happens.") We're all guilty of that at times, though not in such an extreme way. |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:56 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band He seemed like he really cared about her.
Looks like he was doing tech sales at the tail end of Covid WFH and his wife was on maternity leave and seemed to be avoiding going back to work.
So he's mid level IQ, no biglaw superstar. Holding down 6 fig job possibly with growth potential. Probably has parents with money.
He looks like the type that has never said bitch cunt or nigger once in his life. Total normie slash white collar bot. He apparently liked skiing. Not a creative bone in his body. Vacant stare. Probably watches golf. No personality. Married a basic bitch. Modest home. He's gonna grind until he makes 250k and she adds another 85 from nursing. As long as you don't get divorced you're fine. Pretty rudimentary white collar bro of little note.
But when the chips were on the line he couldn't make the tough call. Typical soy boy. A real man would have ripped that cunt wife's skull off her spinal cord for getting close to his kids. A lib "man" isn't built for conflict. |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 1:07 AM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel A huge portion of men today, seeing the same things he saw, would not have pulled the trigger and done whatever they needed to do to protect their kids--due to some combination of lack of guts and burying their heads in the sand. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038456) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 1:21 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band Yeah especially low T New England soy boys. A notably loathsome breed. It's an entire community whose ancestors haven't lived off the land since the 19th century. Of course the instinctual animal has been bred out of them. They think they can fight wars with words. They think guns are immoral. It's a very fucked up insular community if you think about it. This is what shortporch tp would be doing if he were still here. Teaching at HLS and spewing hate online against Israel's enemies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038469) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:14 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band She was out of her gourd. She walks. Or rolls, because she can't walk again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038338) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:03 AM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel Here is California much more reasonable jury instruction:
You have found the defendant guilty of <insert crime[s]>. Now you must decide whether (he/she) was legally insane when (he/she) committed the crime[s].
The defendant must prove that it is more likely than not that (he/she) was legally insane when (he/she) committed the crime[s].The defendant was legally insane if:
1. When (he/she) committed the crime[s], (he/she) had a mental disease or defect; AND
2. Because of that disease or defect, (he/she) was incapable of knowing or understanding the nature and quality of (his/her) act or was incapable of knowing or understanding that (his/her) act was morally or legally wrong. |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:06 AM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness CA had the loss of control element, but it was abrogated by Prop 8
California’s repeal aligned with a broader national trend. Following John Hinckley Jr.’s 1982 acquittal by reason of insanity for the attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan (which relied on the MPC standard), both Congress (via the federal Insanity Defense Reform Act of 1984) and numerous states stripped the volitional "loss of control" element from their insanity tests, retreating to strict cognitive M'Naghten-style definitions. |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:22 AM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel Did California's go as far as Massachusetts' pre-prop 8? The defendant is not guilty if he couldn't help himself? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038356) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:24 AM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness yeah but only for a few years. i think the MPC was widely adopted but quicky walked back in a majority of states (and federally) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038363) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:06 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band It's kooky how reasonable and modern CA law was back in the before times. There was an era where it was cutting edge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038320) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:24 AM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel They banned gay marriage by ballot initiative in 2008, and the vote was only kind of close. 52-48. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038364) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:25 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band What happened so rapidly? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038366) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:42 AM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel I wonder if there is any cr scholarship on that. Another fun California politics fact: they had only republican governors from 1983-2011, other than for one period of less than 4 years in the middle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038407) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:45 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band Are you talking about XO Gray Davis who went down for giving illegals driver's licenses, something Californians overwhelmingly support now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038413) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:04 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band Aaron Hernandez's fiancée got to keep all his NFL money because he killed himself while awaiting appeal. MA law says if you die before your appeal is heard the case is dismissed. This goes back to the 1600s when peasants be dying randomly all the time so their families could keep the dough if they bit it.
Local law is so quirky and fun! |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:25 AM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038367) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:54 AM Author: Saffron old irish cottage chapel Interesting that they couldn't sue the estate. Lots of one weird tricks in MA, I guess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038428) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:59 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band They have abnormal sized bowling pins too. Whole place is a Mess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038440) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 3:41 AM Author: Bright dragon parlour In hindsight and considering the consequence of three dead kids it's easy to say things should have been done differently. But creating a system a priori that balances how much power we should give third parties to seperate mothers from their kids, how we judge them for how they use that power, actually taking care of the kids, providing mental health treatment with the best outcomes, etc. is very hard.
Women having bouts of hysteria that involve suicide ideation and threats are pretty common, particularily postpartum. If we took their kids away if they express these feelings we're going to need a lot of state childcare facilities and that family disruption will often lead to worse outcomes. Plus it'll chill women from expressing these feelings and seeking help.
Anyone who has experienced a loved one attempting suicide after discussing it with you knows how difficult it is to decide what you should have done differently. Putting the onus on third parties like doctors seems especially dangerous since they'll have very little context and will default to taking the most extreme intervention to mitigate their own liability. Empowering the other parent to seperate the children has so many hazards. Consider how protection orders are often weaponized when there's little danger. How many parents heading into contentious custody battles will accuse the other of being a danger to the children so they can sole custody? |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 7:13 PM Author: cracking area hairy legs I cant fault the husband for trying to make things work. He took an oath before God to be with her through sickness. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50039773) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 11:51 PM Author: Vigorous gay set twinkling uncleanness shes hot in a "crazy" kinda way haha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038275) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:01 AM Author: vivacious impressive stead Great discussion itt. It's a good reminder that posters are actually smart, just inclined toward dadaism in their everyday posting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038302) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 12:02 AM Author: Ivory Center Elastic Band Love me or hate me I'm a Great Legal Mind (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5888224&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#50038307) |
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