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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: electric marketing idea church building Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#48969813) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#48985020) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#48997575) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49064860) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49070377) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49077411) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49084518) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49098591) |
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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49101058) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49105012) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49117359) |
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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49128622) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49141968) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49143857) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49156580) |
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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49172980) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49421817) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49421862) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49421881) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49422254) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49424474) |
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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49425035) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49425543) |
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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49427654) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49436681) |
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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49436785) |
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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49439167) |
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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49441985) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49454945) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49455274) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49457596) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49458108) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49461550) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49463581) |
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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49466319) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49467160) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49478445) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49484240) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49484832) |
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Date: December 7th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49492316) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 12:55 AM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49493000) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49495268) |
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Date: December 9th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49497250) |
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Date: December 10th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49500993) |
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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:07 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49515504) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49518561) |
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Date: December 21st, 2025 8:59 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49529071) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:47 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49532458) |
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Date: December 24th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49536032) |
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Date: January 12th, 2026 6:44 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49584404) |
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Date: January 14th, 2026 6:47 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49589879) |
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Date: January 20th, 2026 7:47 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49604959) |
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Date: May 25th, 2026 6:16 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49900593) |
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Date: May 26th, 2026 8:51 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49903004) |
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Date: May 28th, 2026 5:55 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49905466) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2026 5:16 PM Author: Slate Laughsome Doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49913565) |
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Date: July 7th, 2026 11:56 PM Author: nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49985467) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: Peach Titillating Base Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: Mustard blathering nursing home hunting ground Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: Peach Titillating Base (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: Mustard blathering nursing home hunting ground They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: Peach Titillating Base read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: Galvanic brilliant fanboi university Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Concupiscible Lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49098592) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: Talented legal warrant property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle At-the-ready Center Affirmative Action what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: Lascivious Khaki Tanning Salon Haunted Graveyard cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: Soul-stirring Irate Resort I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: Galvanic brilliant fanboi university teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: Nighttime reading party state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Frozen effete brunch fat ankles i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: motley aquamarine library Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: fuchsia frum space really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: yellow nibblets native It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: rose hideous national it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: yellow nibblets native Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: fuchsia frum space actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Henna Stage Roommate 13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per year with your bros, downtime all winter, zero "thank" emails
you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Henna Stage Roommate "Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49838410) |