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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Rambunctious hideous goyim kitty cat
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Slap-happy set mediation
  12/16/25
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Rambunctious hideous goyim kitty cat
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
poppy regret sanctuary
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Slap-happy set mediation
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
poppy regret sanctuary
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Slap-happy set mediation
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
poppy regret sanctuary
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Rambunctious hideous goyim kitty cat
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Slap-happy set mediation
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
poppy regret sanctuary
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Slap-happy set mediation
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
poppy regret sanctuary
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Rambunctious hideous goyim kitty cat
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Slap-happy set mediation
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
passionate parlour boltzmann
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Slap-happy set mediation
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passionate parlour boltzmann
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Umber maniacal library stain
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Slap-happy set mediation
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
tan dashing partner puppy
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Slap-happy set mediation
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
out-of-control walnut school police squad
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Slap-happy set mediation
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Rambunctious hideous goyim kitty cat
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Soul-stirring Bipolar Office
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
razzle-dazzle gas station
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Slap-happy set mediation
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Soul-stirring Bipolar Office
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Rambunctious hideous goyim kitty cat
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Rambunctious hideous goyim kitty cat
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
poppy regret sanctuary
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
zombie-like cowardly ape candlestick maker
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Rambunctious hideous goyim kitty cat



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Slap-happy set mediation

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Rambunctious hideous goyim kitty cat

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: poppy regret sanctuary

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Slap-happy set mediation

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: poppy regret sanctuary

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Slap-happy set mediation

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: poppy regret sanctuary

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Rambunctious hideous goyim kitty cat

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Slap-happy set mediation

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: poppy regret sanctuary

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Slap-happy set mediation

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: poppy regret sanctuary

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Rambunctious hideous goyim kitty cat



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Slap-happy set mediation



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: passionate parlour boltzmann

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Slap-happy set mediation

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: passionate parlour boltzmann



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Umber maniacal library stain

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Slap-happy set mediation

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: tan dashing partner puppy

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Slap-happy set mediation

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: out-of-control walnut school police squad

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Slap-happy set mediation



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Rambunctious hideous goyim kitty cat



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Bipolar Office

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle gas station

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Slap-happy set mediation



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Bipolar Office



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Rambunctious hideous goyim kitty cat



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Rambunctious hideous goyim kitty cat



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: poppy regret sanctuary

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: zombie-like cowardly ape candlestick maker

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=posted#49515738)