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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
misanthropic hell pozpig
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
comical feces
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
marvelous coldplay fan
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
razzle demanding plaza community account
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
marvelous coldplay fan
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
razzle demanding plaza community account
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
marvelous coldplay fan
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
Motley school
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mentally impaired box office
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Ebony Library
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Hairraiser puppy
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cq
umber racy business firm gaming laptop
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
bipolar kitty cat
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
Motley school
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
nubile fishy lodge death wish
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
dead odious kitty
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: misanthropic hell pozpig

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: comical feces

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: comical feces

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: comical feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: comical feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: comical feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: comical feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: comical feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: comical feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: comical feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: comical feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: comical feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: comical feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49143857)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: marvelous coldplay fan

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: razzle demanding plaza community account

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: marvelous coldplay fan

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: razzle demanding plaza community account

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: marvelous coldplay fan

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Motley school

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: mentally impaired box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Ebony Library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Hairraiser puppy

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: umber racy business firm gaming laptop

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: bipolar kitty cat

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Motley school

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: nubile fishy lodge death wish

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: dead odious kitty

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Coral Toaster State

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49105022)