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Has anyone in history reached the level of worldwide fame Michael Jackson did?

Not even Jesus is on his level
rebellious office
  10/16/25
he's not even the most famous person with "MJ" ini...
hairraiser principal's office double fault
  10/16/25
Elvis was bigger than MJ 🙄
curious violent circlehead theater
  10/16/25
worldwide it’s michael and its not even close
rebellious office
  10/16/25
Can’t argue with that, Chang
Lavender corn cake sweet tailpipe
  10/16/25
WRONG https://static.dw.com/image/40162725_1004.webp
curious violent circlehead theater
  10/16/25
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rebellious office
  10/16/25
youre being sloppy with your categories and numbers i pre...
Vigorous hissy fit
  10/16/25
let’s narrow it to at the peak of their fame, name rec...
rebellious office
  10/16/25
Trump and it's not even remotely close
hairraiser principal's office double fault
  10/16/25
There is a stratosphere of "globally recognizable"...
Vigorous hissy fit
  10/16/25
You’re a fucking retard and you’re over complica...
rebellious office
  10/16/25
while still alive is an important component and you are not ...
hairraiser principal's office double fault
  10/16/25
Taylor Swift is basically at that level rn
Mildly autistic native
  10/16/25
she’s not on Michael’s level at his peak no sorr...
rebellious office
  10/16/25
you are so fucking weird
hairraiser principal's office double fault
  10/16/25
She never had the universal appeal of MJ in the 80s.
curious violent circlehead theater
  10/16/25
Right. Swift fans are a certain type. But everyone loved Mic...
tantric den sound barrier
  10/16/25
but her fans are more devoted on average, so i'd say it's at...
boyish shrine
  10/16/25
Would jet black Congo ophthalmologists know Taylor? I guess ...
slimy massive trust fund forum
  10/16/25
...
boyish shrine
  10/16/25
Even old people knew MJ. Nobody over 50 has any idea who Ta...
Mahogany lascivious library
  10/21/25
Theres something about music thats different to say a film/m...
bateful gaped orchestra pit
  10/16/25
Toddlers also know "SP" before seeing him but that...
slimy massive trust fund forum
  10/16/25
How would toddlers know who spaceporn is? Do toddlers read...
curious violent circlehead theater
  10/16/25
When the lights go out in the playroom, they know
slimy massive trust fund forum
  10/16/25
jfc SP
burgundy at-the-ready toilet seat resort
  10/16/25
I think Michael Jordan got pretty close
tantric den sound barrier
  10/16/25
yeah he's the first one i think of for counter examples. ...
Vigorous hissy fit
  10/16/25
get out of my thread you insufferable autist
rebellious office
  10/16/25
Jordan is a good one
rebellious office
  10/16/25
I don't think most goat herders in Mongolia knew who he is
doobsian concupiscible elastic band
  10/21/25
Trump obviously
180 trailer park
  10/16/25
LORD BYRON
aphrodisiac plaza sneaky criminal
  10/21/25
cr. he was famous worldwide at a time before tv, radio, etc....
angry floppy blood rage
  10/21/25
last 50 years? Other than MJ, probably Trump and Elvis
doobsian concupiscible elastic band
  10/21/25
Muhammad Ali was more famous than Michael Jackson.
excitant rusted tanning salon main people
  10/21/25
Religious figures don't count, Trumpkin.
curious violent circlehead theater
  10/21/25
Trump
spectacular medicated preventive strike place of business
  10/21/25
Man, fuck these other comments. You're GODDAMN RIGHT that th...
laughsome stain range
  10/21/25
Michael Jackson and Madonna wouldn't have been able to walk ...
Confused Persian
  10/21/25
he wasnt even the most famous during his century. Elvis and ...
angry floppy blood rage
  10/21/25
Did people in Asia and Africa even know about Elvis and the ...
Mahogany lascivious library
  10/21/25
who cares what they think. the world is America and Europe.
angry floppy blood rage
  10/21/25


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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:48 AM
Author: rebellious office

Not even Jesus is on his level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352666)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:56 AM
Author: hairraiser principal's office double fault

he's not even the most famous person with "MJ" initials you tranny retard. you just like him because he was a disgusting pedo just like you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352673)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:49 AM
Author: curious violent circlehead theater

Elvis was bigger than MJ 🙄

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352668)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: rebellious office

worldwide it’s michael and its not even close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352669)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:12 AM
Author: Lavender corn cake sweet tailpipe

Can’t argue with that, Chang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352705)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:17 AM
Author: curious violent circlehead theater

WRONG

https://static.dw.com/image/40162725_1004.webp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352714)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: rebellious office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352716)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Vigorous hissy fit

youre being sloppy with your categories and numbers

i presume you mean "in his lifetime", and so of course Jesus is out of the conversation

and i also presume you mean total headcount of people who recognize this celebrity. so, naturally, anyone famous in an era of mass communication and a global pop over 5 billion is going to win.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352671)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:59 AM
Author: rebellious office

let’s narrow it to at the peak of their fame, name recognition, face recognition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352679)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:01 AM
Author: hairraiser principal's office double fault

Trump and it's not even remotely close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352683)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: Vigorous hissy fit

There is a stratosphere of "globally recognizable" and then all these unimportant, noisy factors like

- were there 8 billion people on earth, or only 6.9 billion (2001)

- how many chinks had internet access

etc

Every year there are more humans, and every year there is more distribution of media

So 2025 people will beat 2017 people, etc.

Does that make them "moar famous"? Mathematically, I guess.

I think the only meaningful thing to do is to acknowledge that a small group have reached "global fame while alive".

Popes, potuses, pop stars, soccer stars.

Again, presuming this whole convo is bracketed by 'while still alive'. Otherwise obv Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352719)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: rebellious office

You’re a fucking retard and you’re over complicating this because you’re an autist. I told you upthread all we need to measure is percentage of worldwide name recognition and face recognition at their peak

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352793)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:00 PM
Author: hairraiser principal's office double fault

while still alive is an important component and you are not explaining it clearly because you are a retarded tranny pedophile.

while still alive = Trump (not remotely close)

all time = Jesus (also not remotely close)

michael fucking jackson couldn't hold trumps nutsack and you are a retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49353115)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: Mildly autistic native

Taylor Swift is basically at that level rn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352681)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:03 AM
Author: rebellious office

she’s not on Michael’s level at his peak no sorry

she’s absolutely the most famous living pop star though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352686)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:04 AM
Author: hairraiser principal's office double fault

you are so fucking weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352688)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: curious violent circlehead theater

She never had the universal appeal of MJ in the 80s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352718)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: tantric den sound barrier

Right. Swift fans are a certain type. But everyone loved Michael Jackson

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352748)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: boyish shrine

but her fans are more devoted on average, so i'd say it's at the same level overall. at the very least it's worldwide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49353171)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:23 AM
Author: slimy massive trust fund forum

Would jet black Congo ophthalmologists know Taylor? I guess they all have obamaphones so I guess so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352726)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: boyish shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49353168)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:42 AM
Author: Mahogany lascivious library

Even old people knew MJ. Nobody over 50 has any idea who Taylor Swift is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49363758)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:07 AM
Author: bateful gaped orchestra pit

Theres something about music thats different to say a film/movie star like Tom Cruise/Brad Pitt etc where, even if some third worlder hasnt seen him live or on a TV, they're deeply familiar w the work and it transcends that person as a product, they become ethereal

sound gay but even toddlers would know "MJ" just from the beats before they ever saw him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352692)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:22 AM
Author: slimy massive trust fund forum

Toddlers also know "SP" before seeing him but that doesn't make him the most famous ever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352725)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:24 AM
Author: curious violent circlehead theater

How would toddlers know who spaceporn is? Do toddlers read xo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352735)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: slimy massive trust fund forum

When the lights go out in the playroom, they know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352807)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: burgundy at-the-ready toilet seat resort

jfc SP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352964)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: tantric den sound barrier

I think Michael Jordan got pretty close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352745)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:33 AM
Author: Vigorous hissy fit

yeah he's the first one i think of for counter examples.

he reached the absolute pinnacle and there was nothing he could have done to increase recognition. he spanned the globe.

BUT he peaked during a smaller global pop and before the internet, so someone lesser than he, but who is famous today, would surpass his headcount.

you just need to identify the handful of people who maxed out, and he was one of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352754)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: rebellious office

get out of my thread you insufferable autist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352971)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: rebellious office

Jordan is a good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49352970)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:30 AM
Author: doobsian concupiscible elastic band

I don't think most goat herders in Mongolia knew who he is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49363732)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: 180 trailer park

Trump obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49353162)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: aphrodisiac plaza sneaky criminal

LORD BYRON

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49363722)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: angry floppy blood rage

cr. he was famous worldwide at a time before tv, radio, etc..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49363921)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: doobsian concupiscible elastic band

last 50 years? Other than MJ, probably Trump and Elvis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49363733)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: excitant rusted tanning salon main people

Muhammad Ali was more famous than Michael Jackson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49363752)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:46 AM
Author: curious violent circlehead theater

Religious figures don't count, Trumpkin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49363763)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: spectacular medicated preventive strike place of business

Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49363755)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: laughsome stain range

Man, fuck these other comments. You're GODDAMN RIGHT that the king of pop tops all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49363756)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: Confused Persian

Michael Jackson and Madonna wouldn't have been able to walk down an alley in Madagascar without being screamed at and having their songs sung during their prime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49363759)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:41 PM
Author: angry floppy blood rage

he wasnt even the most famous during his century. Elvis and Beatles have him beat. maybe sinatra.

as for all of history op is clearly flame. but off top of my head: Jesus, Alexander, George Washington, napoleon, Byron, Shakespeare, etc...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49363934)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 6:55 PM
Author: Mahogany lascivious library

Did people in Asia and Africa even know about Elvis and the Beatles? I feel like they were more aware of Jackson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49364860)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 8:06 PM
Author: angry floppy blood rage

who cares what they think. the world is America and Europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2\u0026show=today",#49364972)