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Just settled a 6 figure slip and trip case. Taking ?'s

Client slipped on some fruit dropped on the ground in a groc...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/15/25
great work. i’ll be sure to think of you the next time...
well-lubricated honey-headed incel
  12/15/25
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hideous principal's office headpube
  12/15/25
Sure, blame the injured poor person. Not the greedy corpo...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/15/25
lol just lol.
well-lubricated honey-headed incel
  12/15/25
so was there some deficiency in the cleaning that led to you...
poppy spot tank
  12/15/25
If it's such a "known hazard", then why didn't the...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/15/25
? no store can keep the floor spotless. and any customer wa...
poppy spot tank
  12/15/25
That's not what the law says. It clearly says if you hav...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/15/25
so then why don't stores just write policies that say we'll ...
poppy spot tank
  12/15/25
They do. But their dumbass employees never follow the da...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/15/25
Ty, that's interesting I guess. Not sure why your client sh...
poppy spot tank
  12/15/25
Because the insurance adjuster knew that if I got in front o...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/15/25
because this has nothing to do with the law or morality but ...
well-lubricated honey-headed incel
  12/15/25
"who simply pass on the costs to regular productive cit...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/15/25
a) there is no “hazard.” tell your fucking bozo ...
well-lubricated honey-headed incel
  12/15/25
You're supposed to wear boots, not deep-throat them you dumb...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/16/25
i explained why they settle in my initial poast, but your po...
well-lubricated honey-headed incel
  12/16/25
What a great business model! "Let's just pay a six f...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/16/25
if this is a representative display of your logical reasonin...
well-lubricated honey-headed incel
  12/16/25
>”6 figure” >$110K
appetizing bisexual national coldplay fan
  12/15/25
1-0-0-0-0-0 Do you see 5 or 6 digits in that number?
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/15/25
Oh so it was actually 100K not 110k?
appetizing bisexual national coldplay fan
  12/15/25
You're asking the wrong question. The RIGHT question is:...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/15/25
You're a shit bag and should be summarily executed.
Crawly gold clown
  12/15/25
Execute me inside of the same store. Hopefully someone w...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/15/25
give us some details about your practice. when you started, ...
brindle station mediation
  12/15/25
Opened my own shop shortly before COVID shut down every cour...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/15/25
You’re clearing a million? What market.. Legit ques...
nubile jap affirmative action
  12/15/25
Your personal network is the greatest source of referrals. ...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/15/25
18000000. Congrats man. I honestly think slip and falls are ...
Demanding point
  12/15/25
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talented irate depressive place of business
  12/15/25
...
Demanding point
  12/15/25
They aren't bad at all if you learn how to work them up prop...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/15/25
...
Demanding point
  12/15/25
...
cordovan gunner parlor
  12/16/25
What are the demographics of your litigious clients?
soul-stirring range faggot firefighter
  12/15/25
POC. Although, I just settled another premises case last...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/15/25
do banana peel cases pay more than apple peel cases
Fear-inspiring Doobsian Rigpig Persian
  12/15/25
Why the fuck would a banana peel be on the floor?
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/15/25
How often do you consider the fact that your existence is a ...
khaki stain toaster
  12/16/25
Considering how much money I put in my clients' pockets. . ....
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/16/25
Good work OP. Specials?
heady mexican mad cow disease
  12/16/25
Yes please tell us the specials. Congrats on the settlement ...
Walnut New Version
  12/16/25
Injury to her middle, and lower back. Several rounds of ...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/16/25
How’s the venue? Solid result either way, just wonderi...
Walnut New Version
  12/16/25
Venue is Blue-ish. 10 years ago, it was solidly Red, but ...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/16/25
How is fruit not open and obvious? Was it invisible fruit?
Clear french chef orchestra pit
  12/16/25
It's open and obvious if you can prove that it ws not on the...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/16/25
180
Demanding point
  12/17/25
I can't tell whether PI lawyers are 100% evil shitbags who a...
Crawly gold clown
  12/16/25
Keep licking those boots, faggot
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/16/25
...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/25/25
I've never done a slip and fall, but i've seen the facts of ...
Pale magical public bath boltzmann
  12/25/25
Bingo! You gotta have a "good" client to scare the...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/27/25
my first slip and fall was client slipped on ice cream on th...
blue laser beams
  12/25/25
Why was the ice cream just laying on the floor? Didn't th...
Beady-eyed Crusty Abode
  12/27/25


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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:20 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

Client slipped on some fruit dropped on the ground in a grocery store.

Fell and busted her ass.

Case settled for little over $110k.

Case resolved after taking just my client's deposition. No MSJ's.

Probably one of my easier cases to resolve.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512268)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:23 PM
Author: well-lubricated honey-headed incel

great work. i’ll be sure to think of you the next time i buy a $9 gallon of milk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512278)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:23 PM
Author: hideous principal's office headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512280)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:24 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

Sure, blame the injured poor person.

Not the greedy corporate overlords that decide to fuck over other customers rather than reduce their profit margins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512283)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:32 PM
Author: well-lubricated honey-headed incel

lol just lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512310)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 10:57 PM
Author: poppy spot tank

so was there some deficiency in the cleaning that led to your client to slip on the fruit? it's sort of a known hazard in the grocery store

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512775)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 11:02 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

If it's such a "known hazard", then why didn't the store do a better job of keeping it from happening?

Who is in a stronger position to prevent such a "known hazard" from happening? My client or the owner of the property who has a written policy THAT EXPLICITLY SAYS TO CHECK THE FLOORS FOR DROPPED FOOD?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512790)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 11:05 PM
Author: poppy spot tank

? no store can keep the floor spotless. and any customer walking around a display of apples and bananas should consider the possibility that one would've fallen onto the floor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512796)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 11:07 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

That's not what the law says.

It clearly says if you have a cleaning/safety policy and your employees fail to follow that policy then, DING-FAG, you're liable for any injuries that occur.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512801)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 11:09 PM
Author: poppy spot tank

so then why don't stores just write policies that say we'll pick up every once in a while, and try to keep it clean, but hey nobody is perfect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512805)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 11:11 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

They do.

But their dumbass employees never follow the damn policy.

After I get a copy of the cleaning policy, and then depose their corporate rep, I always discover where the employee fucked up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512809)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: poppy spot tank

Ty, that's interesting I guess. Not sure why your client should get $110k out of it though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512811)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 11:15 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

Because the insurance adjuster knew that if I got in front of a jury, they'd end up paying more than that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512817)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 11:14 PM
Author: well-lubricated honey-headed incel

because this has nothing to do with the law or morality but rather leveraging our kafkaesque legal bureaucracy stoked by the resentment of losers like op’s clientele into extracting “just fucking go away” money from risk-averse committee decisionmakers who simply pass on the costs to regular productive citizens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512815)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

"who simply pass on the costs to regular productive citizens"

So the blame should be on the corporate overlords who:

a) created the hazard that injured the customer;

b) forced the injured customer into litigation instead of just paying for her medical treatment;

c) Pass the bullshit costs of litigation onto customers rather than eating the cost for their own fuckup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512827)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 11:46 PM
Author: well-lubricated honey-headed incel

a) there is no “hazard.” tell your fucking bozo clients, who are almost certainly career leeches in the first place, not to slip on banana peels like a shitty vaudeville act.

b) i would confidently bet at least that six-figure settlement amount that the “medical” “treatment” your client received was worth less than 50% of the settlement value even after deducting your cut.

c) why would they do that, when every competitor is beholden to the same gunpoint tort bullshit? the shamelessness and/or retardation that enables you to envision yourself as robin hood just because somebody, somewhere (who is at least providing a valuable service) makes more money explains a lot about your renttt-seeking career path.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512865)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:42 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

You're supposed to wear boots, not deep-throat them you dumb faggot.

If my client was such a lying fraud, why did the insurance company roll over and pay?

They're a multi-billion dollar company, surely they could afford to have their CHILL AS FUCK CHAD of a defense lawyer go to trial and mop the floor with my weak case.

It would probably be a lot cheaper than writing a check for 6 figures to an "obvious fraud"

Maybe. . .just maybe, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and need to suck my dick from the back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512966)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:13 AM
Author: well-lubricated honey-headed incel

i explained why they settle in my initial poast, but your point about the id attorneys is helpful. if you were anything other than a nuisance piker, do you think corps would uniformly hire the absolute bottom-of-the-barrel sadsack lawyers to “defend” against your surely devastating legal assault? they’ve already priced it in, with the waste ultimately absorbed by everyone except your worthless clients and scamster colleagues. so congratulations!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49513423)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:07 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

What a great business model!

"Let's just pay a six figure settlement IN ADDITION to the $25k we dropped on defense costs against an obviously weak case that we'd surely win at trial!"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49513696)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 5:40 PM
Author: well-lubricated honey-headed incel

if this is a representative display of your logical reasoning and argumentation abilities, then i can see why you’re so excited about the settlement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49514920)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:25 PM
Author: appetizing bisexual national coldplay fan

>”6 figure”

>$110K

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512289)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:27 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

1-0-0-0-0-0

Do you see 5 or 6 digits in that number?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512294)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:29 PM
Author: appetizing bisexual national coldplay fan

Oh so it was actually 100K not 110k?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512298)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:31 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

You're asking the wrong question.

The RIGHT question is:

"How does it feel to know that your children will have a wonderful Christmas because of Daddy's hardwork."

To that, I would answer,

"It feels good, Jerry, it feels real good."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512304)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:32 PM
Author: Crawly gold clown

You're a shit bag and should be summarily executed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512305)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:32 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

Execute me inside of the same store.

Hopefully someone will slip on my blood and they'll be ANOTHER 6-figure hit against their policy!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512309)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:32 PM
Author: brindle station mediation

give us some details about your practice. when you started, prior experience, employees, income, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512306)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:35 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

Opened my own shop shortly before COVID shut down every court.

worked for a small PI bro in a small town for a few years.

4 employees.

income, to quote the poet-laurette Lil'Wayne:

A Milli-A Milli-A Milli-A Milli

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512315)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: nubile jap affirmative action

You’re clearing a million? What market..

Legit question. Been thinking of going solo pi work…no access to cases yet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512597)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 10:57 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

Your personal network is the greatest source of referrals.

Once you start taking cases, tell EVERYBODY YOU POSSIBLY CAN that you do PI. They will start sending people to you little by little.

Also, start reading books on how to manage a small business. The key to becoming and STAYING profitable is learning how to manage payroll while you're pushing the boulder uphill towards a settlement/verdict.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512773)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Demanding point

18000000. Congrats man. I honestly think slip and falls are underrated in shitlaw. I’m not above getting completely covered in shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512325)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 9:38 PM
Author: talented irate depressive place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512635)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 10:00 PM
Author: Demanding point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512676)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 11:00 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

They aren't bad at all if you learn how to work them up properly.

The key to surviving summary judgment is proving that the employees fucked up by not following the corporate cleaning/safety policy.

You do that, you'll make it past SJ and head to a trial calendar. Once that happens, they'll fold and pay you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512784)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 11:51 PM
Author: Demanding point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512871)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:30 AM
Author: cordovan gunner parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512956)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: soul-stirring range faggot firefighter

What are the demographics of your litigious clients?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512705)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 11:06 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

POC.

Although, I just settled another premises case last week for $120k. Client was a white woman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512799)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 10:26 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring Doobsian Rigpig Persian

do banana peel cases pay more than apple peel cases

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512710)



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Date: December 15th, 2025 11:09 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

Why the fuck would a banana peel be on the floor?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512806)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:40 AM
Author: khaki stain toaster

How often do you consider the fact that your existence is a complete waste of time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512963)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 1:43 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

Considering how much money I put in my clients' pockets. . .not too often.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49512968)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:37 AM
Author: heady mexican mad cow disease

Good work OP. Specials?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49513322)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:12 AM
Author: Walnut New Version

Yes please tell us the specials. Congrats on the settlement I hope you get more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49513530)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 12:08 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

Injury to her middle, and lower back.

Several rounds of physical therapy and injections.

No surgical recommendation tho.

Bills were about $40k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49513698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: Walnut New Version

How’s the venue? Solid result either way, just wondering.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49515185)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:17 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

Venue is Blue-ish.

10 years ago, it was solidly Red, but now LIBS have slowly taken over that jurisdiction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49515646)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 5:50 PM
Author: Clear french chef orchestra pit

How is fruit not open and obvious? Was it invisible fruit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49514940)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:19 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

It's open and obvious if you can prove that it ws not on the floor long enough for the store to clean it up.

If store performed floor checks every 15 min, then there is nothing they can do about fruit falling on the ground. No liability.

However, the store was unable to prove when was the last time it had performed a safety floor check, thus there was no way to prove that it was in compliance with its own safety policy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49515648)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 10:21 AM
Author: Demanding point

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49516279)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 6:02 PM
Author: Crawly gold clown

I can't tell whether PI lawyers are 100% evil shitbags who are 100% aware of the evil they perpetrate, or 99% evil shit ags who manage to delude themselves into thinking they're not 100% evil.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49514967)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:19 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

Keep licking those boots, faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49515649)



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Date: December 25th, 2025 12:49 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49539226)



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Date: December 25th, 2025 2:17 PM
Author: Pale magical public bath boltzmann

I've never done a slip and fall, but i've seen the facts of a handful (mediated one, had a shitlaw friend tell me about another, saw video that got passed around the trial lawyers of a third).

I'm obviously generalizing from a small sample, but it seems like to settle for this amount the facts have to be a lot more evocative than anyone normally thinks of when they think of a slip and fall.

I recall one being this old as fuck guy using a cane--he clearly should have been using a walker or a wheelchair, because he looked shaky as shit even just walking around normally--and the plf's att'y spliced together the footage of the different cameras of him slowly, creekily walking to an aisle that had spilled laundry detergent, and watching the leadup (and knowing basically what was going to happen) gave you that same 'oh no'/look-away feeling you get from watching a video that you know is going to gross you out or make you sad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49539316)



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Date: December 27th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

Bingo! You gotta have a "good" client to scare the Claims Adjuster into putting serious money on the table.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5810735&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49543098)



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Date: December 25th, 2025 3:39 PM
Author: blue laser beams

my first slip and fall was client slipped on ice cream on the ice cream store floor.

Not my favorite cases but sometimes they pay!

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Date: December 27th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crusty Abode

Why was the ice cream just laying on the floor?

Didn't they have a cleaning policy?

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