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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
comical sinister forum
  01/17/26
Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
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bipolar glassy lay
  01/17/26
The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
bipolar glassy lay
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
...
Adventurous kitchen
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
greedy floppy hairy legs ape
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
greedy floppy hairy legs ape
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
but content tp
Lavender locale
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apoplectic know-it-all garrison
  01/17/26
Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
Jcm here
Mauve Parlour Turdskin
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
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Adventurous kitchen
  01/17/26
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Buck-toothed Chartreuse Keepsake Machete Theatre
  01/17/26
Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
Adventurous kitchen
  01/17/26
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Buck-toothed Chartreuse Keepsake Machete Theatre
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
lmao
Adventurous kitchen
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
...
Adventurous kitchen
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/18/26
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Mint razzle-dazzle twinkling uncleanness
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
Mint razzle-dazzle twinkling uncleanness
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
Adventurous kitchen
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
Adventurous kitchen
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
Adventurous kitchen
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
Adventurous kitchen
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
ty
Adventurous kitchen
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
...
supple orchid water buffalo dragon
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
...
Elite snowy school cafeteria
  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
supple orchid water buffalo dragon
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
I love you so much
supple orchid water buffalo dragon
  01/17/26
...
Elite snowy school cafeteria
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
...
flesh space skinny woman
  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
bipolar glassy lay
  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
bipolar glassy lay
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
bronze mind-boggling mediation location
  01/18/26
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bipolar glassy lay
  01/18/26


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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: comical sinister forum

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: bipolar glassy lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: bipolar glassy lay

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: Adventurous kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: greedy floppy hairy legs ape

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: greedy floppy hairy legs ape

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: Lavender locale

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: apoplectic know-it-all garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: Mauve Parlour Turdskin

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Adventurous kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Chartreuse Keepsake Machete Theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Adventurous kitchen

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Chartreuse Keepsake Machete Theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Adventurous kitchen

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: Adventurous kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: Mint razzle-dazzle twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Mint razzle-dazzle twinkling uncleanness

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: Adventurous kitchen

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: Adventurous kitchen

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Adventurous kitchen

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: Adventurous kitchen

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Adventurous kitchen

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: supple orchid water buffalo dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: Elite snowy school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: supple orchid water buffalo dragon

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: supple orchid water buffalo dragon

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: Elite snowy school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: flesh space skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: bipolar glassy lay

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: bipolar glassy lay

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: bronze mind-boggling mediation location

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: bipolar glassy lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49598425)