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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
Misanthropic orchid halford puppy
  01/17/26
Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
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passionate well-lubricated multi-billionaire tanning salon
  01/17/26
The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
passionate well-lubricated multi-billionaire tanning salon
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
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Appetizing kitty
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
exciting saffron point skinny woman
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
exciting saffron point skinny woman
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
but content tp
spectacular electric furnace locus
  01/17/26
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cyan chad
  01/17/26
Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
Jcm here
dark underhanded selfie
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
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Appetizing kitty
  01/17/26
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Razzle-dazzle sable pervert
  01/17/26
Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
Appetizing kitty
  01/17/26
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Razzle-dazzle sable pervert
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
lmao
Appetizing kitty
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
...
Appetizing kitty
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
Stirring Pit
  01/18/26
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mint stage
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
mint stage
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
Appetizing kitty
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
Appetizing kitty
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
Appetizing kitty
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
Appetizing kitty
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
ty
Appetizing kitty
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
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Heady onyx trailer park keepsake machete
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
...
wild hospital
  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
Heady onyx trailer park keepsake machete
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
I love you so much
Heady onyx trailer park keepsake machete
  01/17/26
...
wild hospital
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
...
Boyish vermilion stock car roast beef
  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
Stirring Pit
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
passionate well-lubricated multi-billionaire tanning salon
  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
Stirring Pit
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
passionate well-lubricated multi-billionaire tanning salon
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
Stirring Pit
  01/18/26
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passionate well-lubricated multi-billionaire tanning salon
  01/18/26


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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: Stirring Pit

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: Misanthropic orchid halford puppy

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: Stirring Pit

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: passionate well-lubricated multi-billionaire tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: Stirring Pit

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: passionate well-lubricated multi-billionaire tanning salon

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: Appetizing kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: exciting saffron point skinny woman

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: exciting saffron point skinny woman

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: spectacular electric furnace locus

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: cyan chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: dark underhanded selfie

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Appetizing kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle sable pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Appetizing kitty

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle sable pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Appetizing kitty

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: Appetizing kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: Stirring Pit

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: mint stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: mint stage

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: Appetizing kitty

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: Appetizing kitty

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Appetizing kitty

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: Appetizing kitty

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Appetizing kitty

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Heady onyx trailer park keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: wild hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: Heady onyx trailer park keepsake machete

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: Heady onyx trailer park keepsake machete

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: wild hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: Boyish vermilion stock car roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: Stirring Pit

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: passionate well-lubricated multi-billionaire tanning salon

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: Stirring Pit

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: passionate well-lubricated multi-billionaire tanning salon

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: Stirring Pit

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: passionate well-lubricated multi-billionaire tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49598425)