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Question about European feudalism.

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just walk outside bro
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Splenetic university idea he suggested

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49172980)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49421817)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49421862)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49421881)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49422254)



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Date: November 12th, 2025 7:15 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49424474)



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Date: November 12th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49425035)



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Date: November 13th, 2025 1:21 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49425543)



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Date: November 13th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49427654)



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Date: November 16th, 2025 8:27 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49436681)



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Date: November 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49436785)



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Date: November 17th, 2025 6:11 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49439167)



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Date: November 18th, 2025 7:01 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49441985)



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Date: November 23rd, 2025 8:51 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49454945)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 12:36 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49455274)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:55 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49457596)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49458108)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 12:15 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49461550)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49463581)



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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:41 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49464738)



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Date: November 27th, 2025 5:48 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49466319)



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Date: November 28th, 2025 12:55 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal arousing place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49467160)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49478445)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 5:54 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49484240)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49484832)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Rebellious drab stain

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Beady-eyed dun regret

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Rebellious drab stain

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Beady-eyed dun regret

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Rebellious drab stain

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: sexy onyx brunch

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Slap-happy grizzly station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: rusted address goal in life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: deranged mint idiot giraffe

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Hairless opaque roast beef

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Free-loading Sinister Property Psychic

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: sexy onyx brunch

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Charismatic orchid public bath

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: contagious wild meetinghouse milk

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: vivacious love of her life

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49105022)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: Beta shimmering organic girlfriend

It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49421865)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: Heady frum new version

it was a nanny state.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2\u0026show=today#49458174)