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Looks like I waited too long to lateral

Am a 2005 grad. Just got told by a second firm that I was o...
Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire
  02/21/12
just say you'll come in as a 4th year, breh.
Aquamarine Library Weed Whacker
  02/21/12
well, not sure I want to do that. current firm likes me wel...
Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire
  02/21/12
so entering as a 4th year should provide you with more job-s...
Twinkling mewling half-breed toilet seat
  02/21/12
I guess, but that is a lot to bank on for a $50k salary decr...
Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire
  02/21/12
lol bro you should be a partner now, not looking for 4th yr ...
Buff vivacious stage nibblets
  02/21/12
I would be the youngest partner in the last 30 years at my f...
Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire
  02/21/12
lateral = Sugarcandy Mountain
sapphire organic girlfriend mediation
  02/21/12
where is that?
Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire
  02/21/12
Just behind the ole rock candy mountain.
bistre state
  02/21/12
how much do you have saved? over 900k?
domesticated garnet fat ankles
  02/21/12
yeah can't you just retire already?
Honey-headed Sick Set
  02/21/12
you really overestimate what you can save in biglaw if you a...
Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire
  02/21/12
just do single living like a pauper bro. Loans at least pai...
Honey-headed Sick Set
  02/21/12
all except federal at 2%. kept those. its a cell phone pay...
Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire
  02/21/12
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Long Duk Dong
  01/21/26
no way. Have a kid, had a bunch of loans and live in an exp...
Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire
  02/21/12
What kind of work do you do? What would your chances be a...
boyish bearded public bath associate
  02/21/12
What kind of work do you do? Transactional What would ...
Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire
  02/21/12
Kind of surprising that a junior partner would take what sou...
boyish bearded public bath associate
  02/21/12
The upside on those jobs can be a lot bigger.
Pea-brained floppy office jap
  02/21/12
It was an awesome job....incredibly cushy. Might have paid ...
Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire
  02/21/12
Was the other dude from a top firm
thirsty talking forum
  02/21/12
yes. At my firm I know that new income partners start at ab...
Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire
  02/21/12
simpler time
Cinco de Mayo Clinic
  01/21/26
update?
professor hojo
  01/21/26
still looking to lateral as a midlevel
norwood ultra
  01/21/26
Just give up and give out handjobs behind the State Bar buil...
...,....,,........
  01/21/26
TONS of biglaw burnouts end up lost in kickboxing underworld...
Long Duk Dong
  01/21/26
...
Kenneth Play
  01/21/26


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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:41 PM
Author: Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire

Am a 2005 grad. Just got told by a second firm that I was otherwise a good fit, but they were looking for a 4th year or so.

Ironically, struck out on a couple inhouse positions because I wasn't experienced enough compared to the other finalist.

New goal...save as much as possible until they kick me out of my current firm, then do something completely different that I actually enjoy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018490)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:42 PM
Author: Aquamarine Library Weed Whacker

just say you'll come in as a 4th year, breh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018495)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:43 PM
Author: Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire

well, not sure I want to do that. current firm likes me well enough, but surely not enough to make partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018499)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:51 PM
Author: Twinkling mewling half-breed toilet seat

so entering as a 4th year should provide you with more job-security, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018542)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:55 PM
Author: Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire

I guess, but that is a lot to bank on for a $50k salary decrease. I guess I could do that next year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018558)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:42 PM
Author: Buff vivacious stage nibblets

lol bro you should be a partner now, not looking for 4th yr assoc lateral scraps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018496)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:43 PM
Author: Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire

I would be the youngest partner in the last 30 years at my firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018503)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:43 PM
Author: sapphire organic girlfriend mediation

lateral = Sugarcandy Mountain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018500)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:43 PM
Author: Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire

where is that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018505)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:53 PM
Author: bistre state

Just behind the ole rock candy mountain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018547)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:44 PM
Author: domesticated garnet fat ankles

how much do you have saved? over 900k?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018507)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:46 PM
Author: Honey-headed Sick Set

yeah can't you just retire already?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018513)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:47 PM
Author: Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire

you really overestimate what you can save in biglaw if you aren't single and living like a pauper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018516)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:47 PM
Author: Honey-headed Sick Set

just do single living like a pauper bro. Loans at least paid off?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018517)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:48 PM
Author: Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire

all except federal at 2%. kept those. its a cell phone payment essentially, so I won't ever pay that off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018527)



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Date: January 21st, 2026 8:28 PM
Author: Long Duk Dong



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49607561)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:46 PM
Author: Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire

no way. Have a kid, had a bunch of loans and live in an expensive place.

Like about $500k in stock, cash and income producing real estate investments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018514)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:53 PM
Author: boyish bearded public bath associate

What kind of work do you do?

What would your chances be at partnership at a second firm if you did lateral?

What's something completely different that you actually like?

[answered above] Would the second firm take you as a 4th year if you offered to go in at that level? I can't imagine why they'd refuse to take someone more experienced at the same pay, unless they think you're a flight risk.

For the in-house gig, how much more experienced was the other guy? What was the pay like? Have you rejected worse in-house options?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018546)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:59 PM
Author: Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire

What kind of work do you do?

Transactional

What would your chances be at partnership at a second firm if you did lateral?

Who knows. Probably not. I don't think I am partner material. But thinking maybe I am, and just need a change of scenery.

What's something completely different that you actually like?

I liked my job in business in general product management and marketing before lawschool. Still regret going to lawschool. Think I could enjoy just starting over again in something on the business side where my law degree is essentially useless.

Would the second firm take you as a 4th year if you offered to go in at that level? I can't imagine why they'd refuse to take someone more experienced at the same pay, unless they think you're a flight risk.

Possible.. Although I don't know if that would help much, and losing $50k a year to do that seems like it doesn't make sense. I might as well just do that next year.

For the in-house gig, how much more experienced was the other guy? What was the pay like? Have you rejected worse in-house options?

Haven't had a chance to reject any jobs. Paid like $210k with bonus in all likelihood. Maybe more with a good year. Other guy was a junior partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018580)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 5:05 PM
Author: boyish bearded public bath associate

Kind of surprising that a junior partner would take what sounds like a huge pay cut for that kind of job. I wish I knew more about in-house legal work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018603)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 5:06 PM
Author: Pea-brained floppy office jap

The upside on those jobs can be a lot bigger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018611)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 5:06 PM
Author: Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire

It was an awesome job....incredibly cushy. Might have paid even more for him, especially with bonus. He might have been an income partner, so not as much of a pay cut....but I was surprised as well. I thought I had the job in the bag.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018613)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 5:30 PM
Author: thirsty talking forum

Was the other dude from a top firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018735)



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Date: February 21st, 2012 5:34 PM
Author: Lake Lascivious Brunch Multi-billionaire

yes. At my firm I know that new income partners start at about $400k...so if they guy got $275k with bonus, or something like that, the difference is hardly noticable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#20018753)



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Date: January 21st, 2026 8:32 PM
Author: Cinco de Mayo Clinic

simpler time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49607564)



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Date: January 21st, 2026 5:39 PM
Author: professor hojo

update?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49607204)



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Date: January 21st, 2026 5:46 PM
Author: norwood ultra

still looking to lateral as a midlevel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49607220)



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Date: January 21st, 2026 6:20 PM
Author: ...,....,,........

Just give up and give out handjobs behind the State Bar building at this point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49607308)



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Date: January 21st, 2026 6:26 PM
Author: Long Duk Dong

TONS of biglaw burnouts end up lost in kickboxing underworld

this is what happens to lots of biglaw associates who burn out. we had a case with institutional client and boomer partner told me to assemble the "best team possible." there was a 7th year associate a few years ago who could write appellate briefs like a kid out in the rain -- some guys just have "it" and he was the best. anyway the guy flames out big time and goes off the grid. i really wanted him on my team -- found him competing at an underground kumite tournament in jakarta. i watched him win his first match from near the exit so he couldn't see me. after his match i went up to him while he was facing away taking off the tape on his fists and he out of nowhere, still looking away, says "you're a long way from home, t-unit." i told him i needed him for one last matter -- that we needed the best appellate brief writer on the planet, it might lead to more work but i couldn't promise anything, but that i would get his daily seamless $$ limit raised to $50. i'll never forget his expression -- just sort of stared off in the distance and said that was a different life, he's not even the same person anymore. he said it was good seeing me again & then put on oversized aviator sunglasses (likely to conceal his bruises) and disappeared out the back alley door into the rain

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2774705&mc=223&forum_id=2



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49607323)



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Date: January 21st, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49607570)