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Date: February 24th, 2026 8:56 AM Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691192) |
Date: February 24th, 2026 8:59 AM Author: Like Clavicular but maxing annoying screeds (gunneratttt) lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691194) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:00 AM Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,. Creed, Limp Bizkit, Korn, Kid Rock (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691196) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:01 AM Author: UhOh deftones are doing great with zoomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691197) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:17 AM Author: michael doodikoff my 13yo niece loves them, I was surprised to hear it. I first heard them in the 90s I think
I'm going with her to the Tame Impala concert, which is one of her favorite bands |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:40 AM Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,. Tame Impala kinda sucks though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691285) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 10:08 AM Author: Edmonton Oilers (Δ) This is Tame Impala's trajectory:
InnerSpeaker (2010): cool stoner rock no one's heard of. Most of the songs are about girls rejecting him and not knowing why. Subtly brilliant.
Lonerism (2012): psych rock and he scores a big indie hit with Elephant. Gets famous overnight. Flashes some pop songwriting chops but still only known by Pitchfork geeks
Currents (2015): breakout electropop megahits. Extremely polished, mostly an electronic dance record. So good it blows everything else out of the water. Perfect blend of his original sadness, psychedelic themes, and pure pop songwriting. He's now mainstream famous, no longer a stoner geek band. But this shit is overplayed, you hear it way too much in malls and restaurants and dive bars. Beaten over the head with it.
The Slow Rush (2020): a complete dud. He married some chick from high school, moved to Malibu, was on some Kanye album, hangs with Bieber, raids Biebers wardrobe. All his interviews are about how he does drugs every day and has an autistic obsession with music production. There's literally zero catchy melodies anymore and it's completely phoned in. The record label and the media pretend like this is an achievement but I've never met anyone who likes this album besides doodikoff whose opinion is wrong and immaterial.
Deadbeat (2025): it's just trash and everyone knows it. Totally disjointed. You can tell he tried a lot harder to make this one but it's a huge miss. He's utterly cooked by now. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:32 AM Author: michael doodikoff unfair attack. I never said that RE Slow Rush - I listened to it maybe once or twice and never again.
In fact, here is some of my commentary from recently (I am "Concupiscible ultramarine ladyboy" tp):
Date: January 17th, 2026 1:14 AM Author: Concupiscible ultramarine ladyboy
It's boring IMO
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823115&forum_id=2#49595845)
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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 AM Author: Ruby vengeful son of senegal
KP recently said he feels like it takes 2 years of touring for his new records to start fully resonating with audiences, or something like that. Maybe this will be like that? I loved this one and Currents instantly, but Slow Rush was more of a grower for me to understand the brilliance of the whole album
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823115&forum_id=2#49595847)
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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:31 AM Author: Concupiscible ultramarine ladyboy
I’m an innerspeaker and lonerism and currents guy. He is the best ever at that throwback acid rock vibe. Amazing drummer. Etc
The new synth stuff is just…. Meh. Don’t hate it, but don’t have an urge to listen to it much
I’ll listen to the new one some kore today for you though man maybe I’ll come to it a little more.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823115&forum_id=2#49596122)
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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:50 PM Author: Ruby vengeful son of senegal
"today for you though man" Tyty - the fellowship of the GreatBort
It's funny that I prefer his last 3 but I also love the first 2, too - he's just a musical genius on all levels
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823115&forum_id=2#49596444)
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Date: January 20th, 2026 12:43 PM Author: Concupiscible ultramarine ladyboy
I did a full listen this weekend. The new album just seems kinda low effort compared to the older stuff, which was highly complex. Not bad, I don't hate it, its Tame Impala, but I guess my prefernce is the older stuff.
If Currents was the OK Computer of Tame Impala, I don't see how the new stuff is the Kid A of Tame Impala.
Basically an electro beat with some synths, and then the signature vocals that he could do all day over any music. Kind of basic. A couple songs are catchy, but again, to me just not nearly as exciting or fresh - we've heard this stuff before many times
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823115&forum_id=2#49603616) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:38 AM Author: Edmonton Oilers (Δ) Yeah the new stuff sucks. I don't know why you had to paste so much unreadable shit in a depressing format for the reader. But anyway he's wrong about The Slow Rush it will never catch on it's just boring. I think what people don't realize about him is that he was always a singles band. The deep cuts were never that great. I think people were really thrown off by how good Currents was that we thought he'd just be like that forever but it was act an outlier. On the first two records there's 2-3 great songs and the rest is mediocrity. The Slow Rush is the same level of mediocrity as the album tracks we were used to but it just doesn't have any hits. I guess Borderline was supposed to be a big hit but it's just whatever. Either way he ran out of earworms. If you want an album to be great you have to have earworms. I just randomly listened to Paperback Writer and I was blown away by the earworms. The Slow Rush and Deadbeat have none. So you can hem and haw about it all day but simply there aren't any catchy melodies. It's over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691548) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:45 AM Author: michael doodikoff "On the first two records there's 2-3 great songs and the rest is mediocrity. "
ehh, dunno about that. Lonerism doesn't have a bad song (just did a quick spin, maybe "She Just Wont Believe Me" is kinda shit, but that's it), and I personally think that the overall quality of songs on it is just a tad below Currents. Its a fucking great album. Enders Toi is possibly my favorite Tame Impala song.
Innerspeaker is also great IMO. Not as strong overall as Lonerism, but it fucks. "Why Wont you Make Up Your Mind" is one of my favorite Tame Impala songs. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:51 AM Author: Edmonton Oilers (Δ) I disagree I think InnerSpeaker is way better than Lonerism. It Is Not Meant to Be is probably the best overall TI song. Agreed on Why Won't You Make Up Your Mind. Masterpiece. Desire Be, Desire Go, Jeremy's Storm are great. I think Lonerism isn't great. Elephant is a good single but it gets boring. Mind Mischief is a great riff and cool drum part but it's too repetitive. I think he has a problem where he's obsessed with loops. He does everything in Ableton so he gets stuck in loops. I just can't take the repetitiveness. The chorus is no good. It's just a riff without a great song around it. Feels Like We Only Go Backwards is a great song but his version isn't even the best version of that song. The Arctic Monkeys cover is way better. It's a great song but his rendition sucks. I think he's too in his own head. If he had just stayed writing psych rock I would have liked it a lot better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691563) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:34 PM Author: michael doodikoff I think that most TI fans would agree that he needs to go back to pysch rock mixed with a slight tinge of electronic - hes basically the best ever at it and its what made him famous. His drum work is absolutely top notch IMO, he single handedly brought that style back to prominence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691645) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:37 AM Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,. Deftones were always considered good though, but they never truly broke out into stardom (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691274) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:44 AM Author: scholarship They’re 180 and just released a new album. Going strong for decades (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691295) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:43 AM Author: scholarship Lots of 180 Limp Bizkit threads lately (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691290) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:44 AM Author: Just your average poaster Wes Borland is underrated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691299) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:47 AM Author: .,.,.:,,.,:.,:,,:,.::,:.:.,.,:.,:,,.:.,.,:.::, Borland could rip but their lyrics are just ljl. He was the entire band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691311) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 10:15 AM Author: SkaddenArse of course they were good. "media" tried to shit on them because the propaganda machine only promotes nig rap.
Anything that vaguely resembles White Identity must be destroyed. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 10:32 AM Author: Like Clavicular but maxing annoying screeds (gunneratttt) wtf. white rappers, especially back then, got way more airtime than black counterparts. eminem, beastie boys, limp bizkit, etc.
limp bizkits first three albums went multiplatinum. they were everywhere. you think media kikes were hamstringing them in favor of blacks? which ones?! and i guess limp bizkit was just *THAT GOOD* that they became a global hit despite (((the industry))) trying to fuck them? but then why were than on MTV every fucking day? |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 10:55 AM Author: Edmonton Oilers (Δ) I'm pretty sure they made Fred Durst President of MTV or something at one point. Limp Bizkit was peak. It was everywhere. He was basically tapped to run an entire record label they thought he was the genius tastemaker who would evolve into a record mogul. They gave him the keys to the kingdom.
LB failed I think when their 4th record came out and it was a dud and people realized they were washed up creatively. They were essentially surpassed by all of the white rage hard rock acts of the 2000s. Korn, NIN, Godsmack, Metallica, Creed, Lamb of God, Slipknot ruled the roost and rap rock was out. RATM I think hung on in the public consciousness because of their superior musicianship.
Fred really was the weak link in the band. There's only so much of his whiney voice people can take. Wes was burned out too. Again that 4th record was a big let down and they seemed like they were done really trying at that point. They also never made a big comeback attempt and were content to slowly fade away. I think they just chilled and had families and did rich guy shit for a while. By the time they did come back it was so many years later and really a niche by that point. Culture moves fast it is what it is. I do think they basically achieved as much as they could for their talent level. I think they milked every drop. When they hit their creative wall it was painfully obvious they had said everything they were ever going to say. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:12 AM Author: Like Clavicular but maxing annoying screeds (gunneratttt) yeah, it's crazy to see someone saying LB and white rapers were disfavored over blacks. blacks complained all the time about the exact opposite. and there was more evidence in their favor -- fred durst and eminem were on TRL everyday. but i don't think anyone was disfavored for racial reasons, white people are the biggest consumer base and in the 90s white kids were buying and consuming more white artists, so these artists got the most screentime.
i think LB faded because nu metal rap rock fell out of favor as tastes changed. while some had more success than others, linkin park, korn, etc. never reached the heights they achieved in the heyday. i think if LB's 4th album was their best one it wouldn't have changed things -- tastes had just moved on from then. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:23 AM Author: Edmonton Oilers (Δ) Probably true.
I think though that Linkin Park was a lot bigger than LB in the end (no pun intended). They were a massive global phenomenon, they just didn't play into mainstream culture. I think because they didn't have a ton of personality. But when Chester died there were like millions of people in Eastern Europe mourning in public like it was actually crazy. They have billions upon billions of streams. They are still a huge deal I think they were just very quiet and businesslike about it while Fred and Marshall were huge pop culture icons. I think the thing about rock is it's still a really big deal but it just doesn't cross over into the mainstream culture. I do think there was a tipping point where the Jewish controlled media decided to brush rock music aside but it seemed like this happened in the 2010s. Now they really do fawn over anything Black but that wasn't the case before.
And I think it's also interesting to note that Eminem became this well respected elder statesman of rap. I think a lot of black people really like him and he crossed over the racial barrier. He's just so talented and always pays homage to black rappers and has the left wing political views. They all seem to really like him and adopt him and don't care that he's a white guy. He essentially earned universal respect in the culture. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:47 AM Author: Royce da 5'9 ((zurich is stained)) there's an ongoing debate in "the culture" right now about whether eminem is a GOAT-level rapper. i think it was commonly accepted that he was in the early - late 2000s, but people started shitting on him because he's "unrelatable" and "don't talk about real shit," but of course when he did an album on serious topics everyone shit on him. pretty much all respected rappers name him as one of the greats. random black doods on the internet however seem to like to shit on him these days.
he's unique in that he is truly hip hop. most white rappers move in and then leave to do rock once they get famous. even the beastie boys sorta did (but i chalk that up to their creativity), but eminem has an autistic obsession with rap and MCs.
eminem is objectively one of the best rappers and lyricists ever. you could make an argument for THE best. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:54 AM Author: Edmonton Oilers I have only ever met black dudes who worship Em. So I have never seen anybody pan him. I'm pretty sure the debate is over on whether he's GOATed. Blacks love him because he embraced the culture and never turned into Aerosmith. And he has always maintained that nogs invented it and deserve full credit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691565) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:17 PM Author: Royce da 5'9 ((zurich is stained)) no, i promise you there are a shitload of losers on social media (insta, fb, youtube) that shit all over him and call him "mid," "corny," etc. lord jamar from grand nubian in particular disses him in interviews all the time. the game, in a clear clout-chasing move, put out a diss track called "the black slim shady" in 2022 trying to get a response (he didn't get one).
not sure when this started, but it's gay as sin. nearly all black rappers give him credit as one of the greats though.
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:20 PM Author: Edmonton Oilers Yeah I mean there are extremely shitty talentless rock bands that attack Jesse Lacey for hooking up with high school girls when he was in his 20s calling him a pedo when these bands can't write a tune to save their lives. There's always some losers complaining. Overall everyone with a brain respects Em because he's an actual genius at what he does. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691616) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:59 AM Author: Like Clavicular but maxing annoying screeds (gunneratttt) he's also culturally nigger and came by hip hop honestly. there's always suspicion with white rappers that they are appropriating black music. sometimes this is true as you mentioned with white rappers that move on once they maek it.
hard to argue eminem is did that, especially with hindsight and seeing how he remains dedicated to the genre. i think younger people that have only known him as a superstar are more likely to criticize him for this. also, musicians, especially ones making music about the struggles of being poor, young, etc., tend to fade as they are no longer relatable to the audience. especially more honest ones like eminem that aren't going to keeping making music about how they're still poor, young etc. when they're 50 and 30 years into being multi-platinum millionaires. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:47 PM Author: Royce da 5'9 ((zurich is stained)) he got inducted into the rock hall in 2022 and spent 90% of his speech reading names of rappers who influenced him and asked the rock hall foundation to please consider adding more of them. i really believe he'd still be rapping even if he never made it and was broke to this day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691668) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:48 AM Author: Like Clavicular but maxing annoying screeds (gunneratttt) jewish media didn't brush aside rock anymore than they brushed aside white or black rappers. especially during the period we're talking about when the influence of major media over what music gets played has massively declined.
in the 90s you needed mtv, radio, etc. to get popular exposure. much less so today. i think the decline of rock is more attributable to tastes changing as well. after all, nothing is stopping someone from listening to any artist on spotify, and people that enjoy rock still listen to rock. it's just that zoomers tend to listen to other stuff more. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:00 PM Author: Edmonton Oilers (Δ) Rock is #1 in every white majority English speaking country besides the United States. Odd case!
The crazy thing about the decline of rock is that by the numbers it's as popular as ever. But there is no new popular rock music (all due respect to Geese). It would be like if people quit playing baseball in the 90s but millions of people still watched replays of old World Series games and everyone knew everything about historical baseball teams, yet no one actually played baseball anymore. Classic rock has endured an arguably grown. Old rock music goes up in value every year as an asset. It's a growth asset. So the question isn't is rock still popular, but why no one can figure out how to make it anymore. If someone made a great rock record today it would be huge but no one can figure out how to do it. It has nothing to do with taste because people fire up Led Zeppelin and Creed every day en masse. No one can explain why the world has lost the ability to make new songs in a genre that's still incredibly popular. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:02 PM Author: Like Clavicular but maxing annoying screeds (gunneratttt) it's been explained to you many times, you just persist with the theory that there are NOGOODROCKERS but if there were they'd be popular with no evidence.
you just said rock was brushed aside, but you're now claiming it's just as popular as ever. so which is it? |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:07 PM Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,. he's a schizo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691589) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:12 PM Author: Edmonton Oilers Always a pumo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691605) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:09 PM Author: Edmonton Oilers It's brushed aside from the mainstream by Jewish media executives. It is just as popular as ever. You never see it in the mainstream. But bands like Pearl Jam still have hugely successful tours. Look at Linkin Park on Spotify they are still yuge. It's obviously a really popular genre. It's the #1 genre in Canada, the UK, and Australia. Tons of rock bands had massive tours in 2025. The All American Rejects made a big comeback. Deftones has struck with the youth. You can be popular with the fans and still make no appearances at the Grammys with booty shaking Megan Thee Stallion. Don't you realize that things can be huge with the fans but have nothing to do with the industry? Walk around any public area you will see rock merch everywhere. You're arguing that Joe Rogan isn't a big deal because he's not on CNN. It's laughable. Do you not see how comical your position is? Rock bands are like podcasters. They've got their own spaces. They don't need David Geffen anymore. Jews sign nigs to exploitive rap contracts then promote em on TV and then hope they overdose so their record goes to #1. That's the Zoomer Culture you're talking about. Lol. Get real rock is still enormous. The numbers don't lie. PE firms still scrambling to find every dollar they can to invest in the Credence catalog. How are these investments growing so fast if tastes have changed? You're out of touch lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691592) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:30 PM Author: Like Clavicular but maxing annoying screeds (gunneratttt) why do you write so many words arguing against a position you've invented i'm taking?
my position is rock is not as popular as it once was because tastes have changed. it's undeniable that it's not as popular, which is why you're resorting to PE transactions instead of billboard or spotify charts. note: this is not the same as saying rock is dead, unpopular, that old bands don't still have fans, etc. etc.
the only thing debatable is why it's less popular. you've said it's because there are NOGOODNEWROCKERS. i think that's retarded. there are plenty of great new rock bands, just like there are plenty of great new jazz and classical musicians. they're just not as popular as the artists in the genres heyday. despite the fact that every genre ebbs and flows as tastes change, you're convinced rock is different, but have no evidence to support this. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:34 PM Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,. "why do you write so many words arguing against a position you've invented i'm taking?"
first time dealing with a schizo? |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:35 PM Author: Yummy Phase Pol Pot How much of the shift in taste is due to demographic changes? I agree with the other guy that the (((media))) plays a role in pushing the absolute worst shit imaginable...but there's also no way Bad Bunny (lol wtf) is headlining the Super Bowl 25 years ago.
I was at a workout class recently and the music was the typical awful bullshit. And some Sean Paul song came on and I realized "holy shit, all of this reggaeton / latino shit sounds exactly the same." It's just the same "riddim" again and again with The Same lyrics again and again. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:47 PM Author: Like Clavicular but maxing annoying screeds (gunneratttt) surely demographics changes play a major role. there is a myriad of reasons why tastes change, but it's just a fact that they *do* change, especially with popular music.
i think (((the media))) plays a much smaller role than it played before. historically you needed a label to promote you and everything was controlled by big businesses. not so much anymore. as far as why bad bunny is playing the superbowl, i think it's more about these businesses trying to capture new and growing demographics than catering to existing fans. i doubt any boomer went out at bought a bad bunny album after the superbowl. however, those people are tuning in whether Bad Bunny or The Eagles play at the halftime show. meanwhile, the nfl hopes Bad Bunny will attract an audience that wouldn't have watched otherwise, and that audience is growing relative to boomers that are dying off.
basically, they're trying to capture a larger audience by playing what's popular, not trying to influence what's popular by playing it. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:17 PM Author: Edmonton Oilers Jews own it, therefore you have to listen to it. Think of it this way, if you owned the rights to the film Train Dreams and you paid a lot of money to make it and you were out millions of dollars and needed to make it back, would you be interested at all in people watching Train Dreams? Would you be just as cool if someone wanted to watch Titanic which came out almost 30 years ago or would you be REALLY pinned to get people to watch Train Dreams. Music is the same way. When it comes to big music acts like Bad Bunny, the expense to the label is similar to a movie. And your ability to recoup the loss is more difficult because you don't have a world wide theatrical release, paying for streaming is a lot slimmer. But at any rate you wouldn't just not give a shit at all whether people watched Train Dreams. You would view it as a paramount necessity. And in fact you would go to great lengths to ensure that people watched it. In this analogy you are Jewish and connected and you are pushing Bad Bunny. You saw an opportunity, took it, spent millions, and now you must recoup. So what do you do? The same thing the music industry has always done. You forcememe. You plaster this guy's likeness everywhere. Interviews, TV spots, the Super Bowl. It's payola. You and your Jewish friends conspire to shove mainstream pop culture down people's throats. There's nothing organic about it. The people at your gym could easily switch the station to something else. But they don't. Because they're normies, they're brainwashed, they're low IQ. They're not savage music fans. They're Latinos who like a good beat. Simple. This is why this stuff persists. It's slop for normies run by Jews. At the end of the day the Jewish houses in Calabasas get bigger and bigger. That's the scheme and it works and that's why they do it. It's a creative process as inspiring as the effort that went into distributing a can of Goya beans to your local grocery store. It's slop for low IQ normie goyim so Cohen benefits. Remember that Pearl Jam late in their career own all their own business, go on tour every year, play massive sold out arenas, and make a ton of money for themselves and fans leave happy and they do this all with zero advertisements or marketing and Jews aren't involved at all. So does Coldplay. But you never hear about it in the news because they're no longer owned by Jews and Jews can't make any money off of it so why would they talk to about it? You only hear about properties Jews own because they own it and they'd be remiss if you didn't hear about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691709) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:02 PM Author: Edmonton Oilers Name one great new rock band. I'll wait. Read any critical consensus on, e.g., Greta Van Fleet who legitimately had a massive rock hit by the numbers. You'd be hard pressed to find a rock fan who thinks they're "as good" as any major act from 1950 to 2010. Everyone knows new rock sucks. We should at least be able to agree on this. If you think 21 Pilots and Imagine Dragons are "just as good" as Pink Floyd, David Bowie, or Nirvana, you're insane. No one believes this. Everyone ITT even doodikoff would agree that new rock sucks. If we can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that new rock is akshually bad, then I've won the debate. Because my PE argument is already rock solid. It's not based on nothing it's based on numbers. It's based on streams, tours, merchandise, and sales of physical CDs, digital downloads, and vinyls. It's based on cold hard facts. The growth is real in the same way that the valuation of the Yankees goes up every year, classic rock does too. If people didn't like it, it wouldn't go up. So there's only two possible reasons why 21 Pilots isn't as big as Nirvana. It's either because Gen Z is all brown and gay and only care about Tyler the Creator, OR they actually just suck musically which I think most everyone agrees on. I have won this flawlessly and cannot be convinced otherwise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691690) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:07 PM Author: Royce da 5'9 ((zurich is stained)) tyler is pretty cool (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691692) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:23 PM Author: Edmonton Oilers I don't get it at all. He obviously has some sort of swag but it's over my head. Too avant garde. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691721) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:09 PM Author: Yummy Phase Pol Pot How much of the "old rock was better than any rock made today" is because all of the best riffs have already been done? I'm probably just not smart enough on this topic, but I always felt like a lot of the best possible rock has already been made.
It also feels a lot like white guys are spending more time making electronic music now (and have been for a decade.) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:22 PM Author: Edmonton Oilers There's an infinity of riffs still out there. To the creative mind there is always more music. Musical geniuses hear genius riffs in their mind every day until they invariably burn out. Imagine telling Kevin Parker there were no more riffs when he embarked. There are always more riffs and every great band has a totally unique style. There will always be more. Electronic music sucks and is fucking gay and everyone knows it hth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691720) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:34 PM Author: Yummy Phase Pol Pot Was just asking, friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691750) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:31 PM Author: Like Clavicular but maxing annoying screeds (gunneratttt) "It's either because Gen Z is all brown and gay and only care about Tyler the Creator" i.e. TASTES HAVE CHANGED
"they actually just suck musically which I think most everyone agrees on" i.e. I DON'T LIKE ZOOMER MUSIC (what every older generation thinks of the new generation's music)
of course you cannot be convinced otherwise -- having zero people agree with you has never stopped you from declaring victory. but you should at least stop saying "no one can explain" something that has been explained to you many times. you just disagree with the explanation and have invented an alternative one. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:35 PM Author: Edmonton Oilers Zero people agree with you friendo. No one reads our subthread wastelands. It's just the two of us down here in the muck throwing rocks. I'd gladly go on Rick Beato though and make my case but he's one of these people who stans for new music because he wants to look hip to the kids so he says nice things about Pink Pony Club because it's part of his business model. I know he knows it actually blows though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691760) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:49 PM Author: Like Clavicular but maxing annoying screeds (gunneratttt) you've made the "NO GOOD NEW ROCKERS!" argument dozens of times over the course of years to explain why rock isn't as popular and every single time you get disagreement and no agreement. this isn't a gunner v. hatp argument, it's hatp versus the world.
your argument isn't even internally consistent, it's all over the place and often conflicts with itself. you just said it could be because zoomers are gay and brown or that they suck at music. don't you see how this is incompatible with "THERE ARE JUST NO GOOD NEW ROCKERS!"? if zoomers are gay and brown and love tyler and suck at music, then why would some hypothetical GOOD NEW ROCKER become popular with that audience? and why aren't zoomers listening to classics at the same rate as tyler (please do not go off on an ADHD rant about examples of zoomers listening to throwback classics, the question is whether rock can top the charts with them, not whether some zoomers listen classics, which of course every generation has.) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 2:04 PM Author: Edmonton Oilers I really don't understand what you're saying at all but as far as why a rock song hasn't topped the Hot 100 since Nickleback in 2002 it's because of how they count what's popular. It's heavily weighted towards radio airplay which is based on a payola scam. Only a tiny number of people listen to terrestrial radio but it's extremely lucrative for Jews because the stations pay them 50x the royalties that Spotify does. All radio stations are legally on the payroll of the Jewish record labels through some loophole that allows payola schemes. It's mathematically impossible for a rock song to do well enough on radio to go to number one, there just aren't any rock radio stations.
In other words think of it like this. Susie is listening to Taylor Swift in the car and her listenership via ad revenue contributes 15 cents to Taylor's record label for listening to it. Bob listens to Night Moves by Bob Seger on Tidal which is worth like 0.001 subpennies or whatever. In terms of fandom it's 1:1, but the label made more money on Taylor, which effects the charts.
At any rate in the last 5 years tons of classic rock songs have topped the digital charts and other metrics such as Master of Puppets blowing up because of Stranger Things, or Africa by Toto which comes back around in vogue periodically or Radiohead's Let Down. By many metrics the popularity is still way up there. A rock act could easily get really big today if they had quality songs and it's not even debatable. Fans are still waiting on the songs!
Wheetus just hit 1 billion streams! Still popular! |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 2:29 PM Author: Like Clavicular but maxing annoying screeds (gunneratttt) if by "topped" you mean "not within the top 200 of the year", ok.
can you explain why you think rock is the only genre that stopped being popular because of a sudden lack of talented musicians, but not every other genre that was once popular and no longer is? i think the answer is obviously that it's your favorite genre, but i doubt you're willing to concede it's only because of your bias. i've never seen you try to explain why this phenomenon has only occurred with rock and not jazz, motown, varieties of rock you don't like, etc. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 2:39 PM Author: Edmonton Oilers A lot of the stuff on the Hot 100 is stuff no one has ever heard of. Just because it plays in a Macy's doesn't mean people really know or care about it. Unlike jazz or motown rock is extremely popular. No one can name a living jazz legend. Jazz musicians can't sell out arenas and stadiums. Tons of rock bands still sell out The Sphere every year. Coldplay's current tour is the highest grossing tour of all time. There's overwhelming evidence rock is still popular all of which you have ignored. Can any living Motown legend sell out MSG? Can Patti LaBelle? No. But rock is still highly relevant. Rock is huge. Still #1 in Canada and the UK. You keep ignoring the facts and evidence which are not on your side. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49692011) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:37 AM Author: SkaddenArse limp bizkit was destroyed by the media as untalented white guys. They had a couple year peak then there was a concerted effort to bring down anything nu-metal or rock. By 2005 mtv was full on nig fest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691544) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:45 AM Author: Edmonton Oilers (Δ) Linkin Park were huge in 2005. So was NIN. MCR, FOB, PatD were also enormous. Emo was just taking off. Green Day American Idiot tour was huge. They were on TV all the time. Blink was culturally relevant. You're right Nu Metal was panned but pop punk, emo, post hardcore, active rock were still huge. Rock was 100x healthier than it is now. U2 won album of the year. Nickelback was a global phenomenon too and they were also panned. Yeah critics were butt hurt about the real chest pounding white guy stuff. They were in love with Animal Collective and Rilo Kiley. We haven't had a rock economy as healthy as 2005 since 2005. It was a completely different paradigm unless you were a Gen Xer and your heroes were Bam and Wes Scantlin. Yes Gen X culture died when Millennials finished high school. That's just life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691553) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:54 AM Author: SkaddenArse these were the last gap years though. by the end of the 2000s decade rock was dying. No new bands came out that had any impact on popular music. emo was only ever a niche thing afaik. In the 2010's the default music (on pop radio, at high school events, nightclubs, etc) was rap/hip hop.
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:12 PM Author: Edmonton Oilers Tame Impala, Alt-J, Foster the People, Lumineers, and Mumford were the last gasp and they were 2010s. That was the Last Gen to get really big for a time. In the 2000s rock was way bigger than you think. You're being hyperbolic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691599) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:14 PM Author: SkaddenArse whenever I went to a frat party, night club, turned on the grammys, or watched a halftime show - I heard hip hip or rap.
I never once went to a party where tame impala played. |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:17 PM Author: Edmonton Oilers Tame Impala is so overplayed now that you can't go anywhere and not hear it. Yeah they weren't super famous in the beginning. It took a while to build. Now they're huge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691611) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:25 PM Author: Yummy Phase Pol Pot I think it's just one guy and I'm not even sure I'd call him rock. Really more a hybrid of electronic / indie / dance. Some good music, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691624) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:25 PM Author: Edmonton Oilers Yeah OK true whatever? Not at all the point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691625) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 10:26 AM Author: dude, you did a murder watch the woodstock 99 concert, so much white rage, it is beautiful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691407) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 10:28 AM Author: barnabyjones it was the last stand for whites in popular culture. There hasn't been a famous white dude with a guitar this century. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691413) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 10:33 AM Author: cowgod Does John Mayer count or is he Tall so it’s just a way to get Women to pay $$$ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691426) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 10:38 AM Author: barnabyjones "John Mayer" is not white
His father is Jewish, and Mayer has said that he "relates" to Judaism.[15] |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:37 AM Author: SkaddenArse every damn time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691545) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 10:30 AM Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,...., https://x.com/joeybeastmarket/status/2025005090516430905?s=61 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691419) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 10:36 AM Author: dude, you did a murder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691432) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 10:39 AM Author: barnabyjones (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691443) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:03 AM Author: peeface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691497) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:38 AM Author: michael doodikoff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691547) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:49 AM Author: lsd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691560) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 11:05 AM Author: animeboi (.) (Fred Durst) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691498) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:03 PM Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,. you think you're clever, Trumpkin? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691578) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:05 PM Author: Yummy Phase Pol Pot https://youtu.be/iEh0FCYw3Dk?si=aMD1dz_QwzUZtjfD (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691586) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 12:17 PM Author: piss all the bands jew media told you were bad around the millennium were actually 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691613) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 1:16 PM Author: peeface Creed now universally beloved (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49691706) |
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Date: February 24th, 2026 2:39 PM Author: Ted Nougat Holy shit, this thread is more unstable than a crowdsurfer on top of a piece of plywood. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5837893&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49692010) |