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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Violet range
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria
  12/16/25
18000
Violet range
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Bespoke thirsty field
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Bespoke thirsty field
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Bespoke thirsty field
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Violet range
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Bespoke thirsty field
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Bespoke thirsty field
  12/17/25
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Violet range
  12/17/25
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Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Bateful Piazza Boltzmann
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria
  12/16/25
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Bateful Piazza Boltzmann
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
lilac point weed whacker
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Swashbuckling Rose Lodge Multi-billionaire
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
fishy doobsian headpube sanctuary
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Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria
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Violet range
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Stimulating library faggotry
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
grizzly base half-breed
  12/17/25
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Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria
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Stimulating library faggotry
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Violet range
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Violet range
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Bespoke thirsty field
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Sooty mad cow disease son of senegal
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Violet range



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Violet range

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Bespoke thirsty field

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Bespoke thirsty field

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Bespoke thirsty field

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Violet range

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Bespoke thirsty field

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Bespoke thirsty field

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Violet range



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Bateful Piazza Boltzmann

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Bateful Piazza Boltzmann



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: lilac point weed whacker

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Rose Lodge Multi-billionaire

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: fishy doobsian headpube sanctuary

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2\u0026show=week#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Violet range



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Stimulating library faggotry

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: grizzly base half-breed

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Snowy Exciting Old Irish Cottage School Cafeteria



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Stimulating library faggotry



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Violet range



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Violet range



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Bespoke thirsty field

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Sooty mad cow disease son of senegal

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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