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Be honest: How many of you don't wear deodorant?
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Date: January 21st, 2026 7:46 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49607496) |
Date: January 21st, 2026 7:58 PM Author: Maniacal Stag Film Haven’t worn it for 5+ years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49607520) |
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Date: January 21st, 2026 8:04 PM Author: lavender prole b-but how (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49607531) |
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Date: January 21st, 2026 9:15 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat explain. do you stink? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49607655) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:10 PM Author: Maniacal Stag Film I don’t think so. I work in biglol and am very sedentary other than when I go to the gym, and when I go to the gym I take a shower afterward. I wear undershirts all the time which I think helps mask my body odor. I also sincerely think not wearing deodorant has made my baseline smell less rank (by what mechanism, I couldn’t articulate coherently, but it feels true). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608687) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:36 PM Author: lavender prole This seems plausible anecdotally (usually dont stink without it but noticeably worse 24 hours after applying) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608756) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:42 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat Do you have an average amount of armpit hair compared to most guys? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608767) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 12:15 AM Author: Maniacal Stag Film I have a lot of armpit hair but I do find that it occasionally gets unfixably stinky even after showering and in such circumstances I just shave it all off. So I’m sometimes totally clean shaven but most of the time I have an average-to-above-average amount of hair. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49610842) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 11:50 AM Author: .,.,.:,,.,:.,:,,:,.::,:.:.,.,:.,:,,.:.,.,:.::, could mean you're low T not flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49630155) |
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Date: January 31st, 2026 12:52 PM Author: ""'"''"" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49635861) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:14 AM Author: honey-headed toilet seat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608563) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:15 AM Author: Bright greedy coffee pot forum Haven't worn it since before covid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608564) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:27 AM Author: honey-headed toilet seat do you not smell? even at the end of the day? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608583) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:42 AM Author: Bright greedy coffee pot forum After a single day, no not typically. I shower after the gym in the morning, sit in an office all day until I drive kids around until 9:00. If I have to wear a suit all day or work in the yard I'll smell. My wife is a weirdo and likes it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608611) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:24 AM Author: racy lettuce rarely. I only shower every 3rd or 4th day. modern grooming is mostly corporate propaganda. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608578) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:29 AM Author: titillating idiotic field tank BUT YO STANK (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608589) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:06 PM Author: racy lettuce i'm White. we dont stink. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608676) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:40 PM Author: supple locus (guy who fucking stinks) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608762) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 1:34 PM Author: titillating idiotic field tank You stink. You snell like shit, balls, and pits. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608991) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:43 AM Author: Bright greedy coffee pot forum This is true. Especially with the soaps people are using.
Sun screen is also bullshit |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:33 AM Author: Ruddy Flirting Kitty Cat ill wear it if im going to a meeting or a wedding or going out to see friends but thats pretty rare these days. lmao at bothering every day to go to buccees or whatever dumb shit people do now. those marshawn lynch commercials where he sprays cfc deodorant on his cock and balls and ass really need to be the final nail in the coffin of this fraud. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608593) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:37 AM Author: Fragrant hall love of her life oh look the weird autistic shut ins and indians dont bathe or wear deoderant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608599) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:45 AM Author: Ruddy Flirting Kitty Cat you seem pretty excited about finally discovering deodorant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608620) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:44 AM Author: Trip crackhouse i wear it if i am at work, otherwise no. same with underwear. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608615) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:08 PM Author: Bright greedy coffee pot forum You only wear underwear to work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608682) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:17 PM Author: Trip crackhouse yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608702) |
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Date: February 1st, 2026 7:58 PM Author: ""'"''"" wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49639693) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 11:57 AM Author: zombie-like fluffy messiness Smells like curry in here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608658) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:10 PM Author: exciting fiercely-loyal roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608684) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:01 PM Author: multi-colored submissive center I use soap with exfoliating crystals that scrub all the crust off my armpits such that it takes over 24 hours to develop BO, by which time I've showered again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608665) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:05 PM Author: indigo menage ive been trying to find alternatives that work
but so far nothing works well, also normal deodorant really irritates my armpits so i have to buy really expensive shit that i feel like it kind of works but not as well |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 2:43 PM Author: multi-colored submissive center https://a.co/d/7s0WACB (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609244) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 2:46 PM Author: indigo menage lol at thinking id buy anything that jewish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609253) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 3:02 PM Author: multi-colored submissive center Jews don't use it, go figure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609312) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:07 PM Author: Sticky Trump Supporter Regret Never. I haven't even owned deodorant for years. You stop using it, I think you smell for a couple weeks and then your body adjusts, you really don't need this stuff. Also I'm a white and I don't smell bad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608681) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:31 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat White guys have to wear deodorant or will smell like shit, unless they are lucky like you. I have to wear it. Do you have less armpit hair than the average guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608737) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:12 PM Author: exciting fiercely-loyal roast beef y'all are nasty. i dont sweat much so i skip days in the winter, and thar makes me feel gross. are people really going without deodorant for years!? ljl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608692) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:19 PM Author: Ruddy Flirting Kitty Cat some of us just shower lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608706) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:24 PM Author: exciting fiercely-loyal roast beef you stink. people talk about how much you stink. steve jobs thought fruit and showers obviated deodorant too. he stunk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608710) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:39 PM Author: indigo menage im sure they stink but who gives a fuck what people think/say
fuck em |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:42 PM Author: exciting fiercely-loyal roast beef hey maybe im just conceited and overly concerned with how im perceived but id rather not walk around emiting pungent odor that disgusts everyone near me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608769) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:45 PM Author: indigo menage hmm maybe u rnt indian after all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608778) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 1:24 PM Author: exciting fiercely-loyal roast beef or mb its because i grew up around a bunch of stinky mfers everyone talked shit about that were oblivious to how off putting they are (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608967) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 1:53 PM Author: Fragrant hall love of her life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609033) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 12:26 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat Do you bros shave your pits? I heard if you do you don't need deodorant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608718) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 1:31 PM Author: Overrated idea he suggested Quit in law school. It’s flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49608987) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 6:35 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat How do you know you don't smell and just got used to your own funk? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609867) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 6:53 PM Author: Overrated idea he suggested I've fucked like 30 girls since then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609928) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 1:39 PM Author: provocative trust fund one of the few xo threads that truly has me asking wtf irl what are you guys fucking smoking? is this thread flame? why of all things give up on deodorant? |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 1:42 PM Author: exciting fiercely-loyal roast beef i guess i should be less suprised that a haven for antisocial dorks has so many people that think deodorant is unnecessary, but it's still pretty jarring. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609005) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 1:54 PM Author: Fragrant hall love of her life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609035) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 2:55 PM Author: provocative trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609295) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 3:56 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat Please tell me what age to tell my son to start wearing deodorant. I started another thread on this but it died because no one on this board wears deodorant so no one can answer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609498) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 3:57 PM Author: exciting fiercely-loyal roast beef when his BO becomes noticable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609505) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:14 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat ty I can't imagine how stinky an xoxo meetup would be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609556) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:07 PM Author: multi-colored submissive center You're obese we get it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609537) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:10 PM Author: exciting fiercely-loyal roast beef oh wow im shocked that the schizoid gook shut in doesn't use deodorant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609540) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:01 PM Author: Razzle flesh azn range I only wear it to work and on dates
if you get a really fancy expensive deodorant and soap/body wash, you don't need cologne |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:03 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat Do fancy expensive deodorants have antiperspirant in them too? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609528) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:04 PM Author: curious irate mediation If I'm going out I wear it, I can get sweaty. If not, no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609530) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:07 PM Author: multi-colored submissive center If you don't know why your armpits stink by age 20 you're a lost cause (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609536) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:17 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat Do you guys who don't use deodorant trim your armpit hair? I have no idea how you can't stink. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609565) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:39 PM Author: Mewling Friendly Grandma Stage Imo BO vs no BO has to do with the mix of bacteria that's colonized your skin. I haven't used deodorant for many years. I'm kind of musty by the end of the day but I don't get that full blown BO stink unless I skip a day of showering. HOWEVER, after a minor surgery that required me to use an antibiotic rinse on my whole body for a week, I get a lot smellier a lot faster than I used to. Not a fat btw, none of this applies to fats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609605) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 4:45 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat How hairy are you? I think this is also a contributor. I think your bacteria theory may be true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609623) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 5:25 PM Author: Mewling Friendly Grandma Stage Your level of interest in armpit hair ITT is a little off putting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609726) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 5:34 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat I have a theory and I want to know if I'm right! lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609740) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 5:35 PM Author: Stimulating antidepressant drug you're an IRL faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609743) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 5:40 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat this is an entire thread of stinky guys who don't wear deodorant. all of you should be ashamed of yourselves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49609754) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 8:20 PM Author: Bateful Nofapping Patrolman Lay Wtf is wrong with you barbarians? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49610192) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 9:03 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat This is very disturbing. I wish we could formally poll how many do use it just to compare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49610380) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 10:16 PM Author: Bateful Nofapping Patrolman Lay For the record, I shower every single day and use antiperspirant every single day. And brush my teeth twice a day. And wear clean clothes every day. Because this is pretty basic shit people, hfs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49610633) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 2:42 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat Imagine how these guys smell in the summer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49612319) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:40 PM Author: Bateful Nofapping Patrolman Lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49613349) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 8:49 PM Author: passionate nursing home mental disorder I almost never wear it. Maybe if it's like a crazy high stress day and I expect to be home late. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49610327) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 9:05 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat Do you not stink or do you just not care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49610389) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2026 10:17 PM Author: cordovan insecure striped hyena Plenty of good deodorant on offer now that doesn't cause pancreatic, endocrine, etc issues (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49610635) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:31 AM Author: honey-headed toilet seat suggestions? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49611247) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 12:17 AM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Impertinent Shrine Queen Of The Night Deodorant contains aluminum and may cause cancer. I'll pass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49610844) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 10:18 AM Author: honey-headed toilet seat deodorant doesn't contain aluminum -- only antiperspirant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49611381) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:49 PM Author: Electric mischievous rehab why? you can get "natural" ingredient deodorants. also, keeping underarm hair really short also knocks down the end of day funk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49613375) |
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Date: January 25th, 2026 11:53 AM Author: honey-headed toilet seat Is it considered normal now for men to shave? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49617221) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2026 9:51 PM Author: Hideous Jap I have been told I should wear deodorant, but I don't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49613383) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 3:45 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat Who told you? I can't imagine any conversation that is more awkward. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49615068) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 4:39 PM Author: Hideous Jap Supervisors, a couple of co-workers here and there. I can see the discomfort in people not from South Asian origin most days. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49615253) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 7:34 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat How do they point this out to you? Like call you into their office and tell you stink. . Send you an email? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49615836) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 7:44 PM Author: Hideous Jap "Close the door behind you please. Look, I don't know how to put this... so, I'll just tell you bluntly. We've heard a few complaints, I can't say by who, that... look, we love the work you do here, don't take this the wrong way... that you don't always have the best body odor. I've taken the liberty to purchase some deodorant, we call it pit stick. *takes cap off, mimics a couple swipes under his arm pits* Tomorrow, just try this. I'm guessing it's a dietary thing and it's getting blown out of proportion. I'm sorry I had to have this talk with you. Are we on the same page? Like I said, we really love the work you do here." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49615865) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 7:57 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat How did you not start after this? I mean, as pro-deodorant as I am, I think I really admire your stubbornness and unwillingness to change your own behaviors to fit the demands of society. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49615894) |
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Date: January 25th, 2026 12:43 PM Author: Hideous Jap My wife loves my scent. It drives her wild and that's the only opinion that matters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49617348) |
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Date: January 27th, 2026 4:21 PM Author: ""'"''"" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49624384) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 7:58 PM Author: misunderstood principal's office If you want to attract a woman you should be pheremonemaxxing. Your natural scent drives them wild. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49615898) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 10:34 PM Author: Electric mischievous rehab does a woman's "natural scent" turn you on????🤮 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49616480) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 10:47 PM Author: misunderstood principal's office No, but that’s different (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49616521) |
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Date: January 28th, 2026 4:35 PM Author: ""'"''"" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49627384) |
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Date: January 24th, 2026 10:37 PM Author: Charcoal university ratface round this entire thread up to Mumbai, I'll go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49616484) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 11:29 AM Author: ""'"''"" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49630113) |
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Date: January 25th, 2026 11:56 AM Author: Milky senate partner i have never worn deodorant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49617229) |
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Date: January 25th, 2026 9:57 PM Author: honey-headed toilet seat Like since you were a kid? Did you play sports at all? Were your peers not disgusted? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49618942) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 11:51 AM Author: Nude Six Nine Disgusting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49630160) |
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Date: January 31st, 2026 2:25 PM Author: ""'"''"" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49636054) |
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Date: January 26th, 2026 1:28 PM Author: ""'"''"" lol when did xoxo collectively decide to stop wearing deodorant? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49620568) |
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Date: January 28th, 2026 11:05 AM Author: ""'"''"" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49626396) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 1:41 PM Author: Dr_Sigmund_Floyd Haven't worn it in years. Unless you're doing manual labor you probably don't sweat enough to smell + be white + have a good diet + sweat out toxins in the sauna. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49630537) |
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Date: January 30th, 2026 12:00 PM Author: ""'"''"" At 3 pm an armpit is going to smell like an armpit if you don't wear deodorant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49632984) |
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Date: January 29th, 2026 7:50 PM Author: tancredi marchiolo https://ibb.co/FqzzLsbs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5824808&forum_id=2#49631662) |