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Is Calories In, Calories Out the dumbest thing people believe?
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:14 PM Author: bull headed zippy laser beams Obesity is obviously driven by some environmental factors we don't currently understand well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792799) |
Date: July 4th, 2022 12:16 PM Author: talented new version Obesity would be solved if fat people ate 1000 calories per day until they are normal sized again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792818) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:17 PM Author: hairraiser well-lubricated stead knife Diet companies HATE him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792824) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:19 PM Author: bull headed zippy laser beams Try to figure out how to nutritiously survive on 1000 calories with good tasting, convenient, filling food. You can't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792831) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:24 PM Author: hairraiser well-lubricated stead knife Good tasting is in the eye of the beholder but if you like potatoes you can easily do this with potatoes, an egg a day, and a multivitamin to hit what you're missing. Potato diet is very, very cheap and easy and it's almost impossible to eat too many calories.
Pound of potatoes is 350 calories so to even get to 1,000 calories (with the egg) you have to eat a tick under 3 pounds. Assuming you pig out and have five pounds of potatoes we're still only talking about 1700 calories most people will lose weight on that. There's a reason this shit works |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:25 PM Author: Cyan garrison psychic Just do Potato diet bro lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792871) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:26 PM Author: hairraiser well-lubricated stead knife If you're trying to lose weight yeah. I put on like 10 pounds during the fraudvirus quarantine but them melted them off in like four or five weeks it's cheap, easy, and never fails anybody could stop being fat if they felt like it they're just refusing to do so jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792875) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:30 PM Author: Cyan garrison psychic I mean if your sole concern is losing weight it might work for some but you would lose lots of muscle at the same time to begin with if you have any, plus you are going to be malnourished due to lack of animal protein/saturated fat etc.
Also many people who need to lose a significant amount of weight tend to be sensitive to carbs so a carb heavy diet like this probably wouldn’t do much for them. If you’re going to do something like that it would be far superior to due a low carb diet and focus on fatty animal meat, eggs, etc. as that is more satiating and nutritious. Your calories would be low but your nutrition would be much higher. Of course it’s much more expensive than eating only potatoes like a peasant though. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 1:11 PM Author: hairraiser well-lubricated stead knife Sure-- there's infinite ways to do this, the potato diet is just one cheap and easy way to lose weight quickly. The egg and multivitamin is enough for the other stuff and this isn't intended to be forever. I haven't done it, but in principle it would even be possible to do for someone with no kitchen or any form of heat by just doing canned in water potatoes.
But all of this is somewhat beside the point. The point is people who say they "can't" lose weight or "can't afford to lose weight" are flaming, they are choosing not to, because literally anybody could do the potato diet and most could also do the diet you describe. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 1:27 PM Author: bull headed zippy laser beams How would you entertain guests on this diet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793218) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 3:40 PM Author: hairraiser well-lubricated stead knife jfc it's a diet for weight loss it's not intended for you to host a fucking dinner party, if you take one meal off to cook whatever it's fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793874) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 5:09 PM Author: crusty know-it-all genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794334) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 5:20 PM Author: avocado medicated state black woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794411) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:28 PM Author: bull headed zippy laser beams Where are the meats, sweets, and snacks?
How is that convenient? How can I just get a potato through a drive thru? |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:29 PM Author: talented new version It's not forever. They just need to do it until they stop being fat asses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792902) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:29 PM Author: Gay therapy chapel This is why THX 1138 is inevitable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792905) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:30 PM Author: hairraiser well-lubricated stead knife This is a meat free diet for the purposes of weight loss. Once you're at your ideal weight you can go back to eating whatever and that includes whatever meat you like. If you want something sweet, you can add honey to your potato. If you want a snack, eat a potato. Wendy's sells baked potatoes a la carte. Taco Bell doesn't directly serve potatoes, but they sell cheesy fiesta potatoes. You can order them on the app or the drivethrough minus the sour cream and cheese but with extra potato. This literally could not be easier. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792907) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 1:22 PM Author: gaped brethren (Irishman) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793190) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 3:42 PM Author: heady sandwich filthpig guys at my high school used to eat sacks of potatoes to lose weight it was NBD (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793881) |
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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:28 PM Author: amber nighttime institution Been doing that for over a month. It’s not hard, it’s easy once you get going.
No sugar, no seed oils or other added fat, no alcohol, no refined carbs, focus on lean protein and non-starchy vegetables. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:24 PM Author: Cyan garrison psychic Better yet just do 500 calories (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792863) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:27 PM Author: Gay therapy chapel Had a friend that lost about 150lb in HS this way (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792880) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:27 PM Author: Irradiated center that was aids not a diet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795675) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:18 PM Author: Irradiated center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795654) |
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Date: July 8th, 2022 11:37 AM Author: white tank That would take incredible willpower. even if it was like 300 protein 700 fat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44815436) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:18 PM Author: erotic stirring factory reset button dilemma Obesity is driven by sugar addiction, particularly to high fructose corn syrup. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792829) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:19 PM Author: bull headed zippy laser beams I don't drink non diet sodas and I am still overweight. Explain that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792837) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:21 PM Author: Gay therapy chapel (sedentary, balding lawyer) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792843) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:27 PM Author: bull headed zippy laser beams Not sedentary. I weed whacked yesterday (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792885) |
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Date: July 8th, 2022 9:57 AM Author: white tank "candy ride" is obese imagine that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44814948) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:21 PM Author: frum parlour I remember Neal Grasse Tyson said this very thing on JRE and Rogan had this look like “well maybe I’m not so dumb after all” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792849) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:21 PM Author: Provocative orchestra pit generalized bond No one has ever rebutted the corn problem. It's all an obvious lie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792851) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 4:11 PM Author: rusted charismatic nursing home Redpill me in corn, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794056) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 4:26 PM Author: talented new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794134) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 7:23 PM Author: Provocative orchestra pit generalized bond I made a thread about this discovery years ago when I saw whole kernels of corn in my shit. It made me realize that your body does not absorb all of the food that you eat. If you were to eat 1000 K of corn what amount woukd pass through you undigested and unabsorved? It's patently obvious that calories in cannot be measured so carefully. I can rant about this for ever. There's no way your body is absorbing 10,000 calories from a while cheesecake. It's going to let some of that shit pass straight thru to the toilet. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:27 PM Author: diverse rehab organic girlfriend No, it’s that people eat calories that aren’t attached to fiber, so the food isn’t satiating and it’s easy to overeat. That’s literally it. If people just ate whole food they wouldn’t be obese. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:30 PM Author: walnut spectacular plaza Guy unaware of fact that I can eat 4,000 calories of watermelon in one sitting just fine and it has plenty of fiber.
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:32 PM Author: diverse rehab organic girlfriend Lol no. Do the math. It probably has like 50 calories per serving. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792922) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 3:45 PM Author: heady sandwich filthpig 1c of watermelon is 46 calories, so he's talking about eating like 50x the max capacity of a healthy human stomach in one sitting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793906) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:57 PM Author: Tan contagious scourge upon the earth (African elephant) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793082) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 6:11 PM Author: hyperventilating crackhouse double fault lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794595) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 3:45 PM Author: heady sandwich filthpig if you can eat 4000 calories of watermelon in one sitting you're eating literally 100 cups of watermelon
your stomach would explode if it attempted to hold 100 cups of ANYTHING |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 6:59 PM Author: avocado medicated state black woman *beady-eyes narrow* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794799) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:34 PM Author: Gay therapy chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795700) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:30 PM Author: Laughsome stag film old irish cottage As a member of the morbidly obese, I can affirm that obesity is linked to depression and low self esteem, but it is also undoubtedly linked to over consumption of calories. Not necessarily high fructose corn syrup either. Some obese people don't really care for sweet carbs. Some obese are purely savory carbs. Too much beer. Too much Kuche. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792908) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:32 PM Author: crimson unhinged bbw corn cake OUT your daily diet Candy Ride, what sort of refined crap and slop are you shoveling in there!? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792919) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:38 PM Author: bull headed zippy laser beams Yesterday, I had breakfast tacos, tater tots, and an iced coffee for breakfast.
Then I had a steak, 2 ears of corn on the cob, and potato salad for supper. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:42 PM Author: crimson unhinged bbw corn cake Tortillas have a shit ton of empty calories and, except for the steak which is cr, your dining choices are ruinous (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792999) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 1:02 PM Author: bull headed zippy laser beams I don't have anyone to impress. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793104) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:34 PM Author: insanely creepy deer antler seems to me that the way many people use the "calories in, calories out" is technically true, but over-simplified. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44792931) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:52 PM Author: Tan contagious scourge upon the earth This is correct, glad you posted it since this retarded troll OP is too tiresome to address (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793053) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:50 PM Author: Domesticated arousing pervert Fat people say the darndest things. Eat what you want but in smaller portions. Get used to feeling a little hungry. It's not the end of the world. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793040) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:51 PM Author: diverse rehab organic girlfriend This approach doesn’t work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793049) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 1:03 PM Author: bull headed zippy laser beams My wife has a mental breakdown if she gets hungry. She calls it hangry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793107) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:56 PM Author: fuchsia cracking feces It is completely accurate you fat turd kys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793075) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 12:57 PM Author: Floppy location CICO is true but incomplete. If you're in a caloric deficit, you'll lose weight; if you're in a caloric surplus, you'll gain weight. But macros and training are what will determine the substance of the change. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793080) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 1:04 PM Author: Cocky sinister becky dog poop It's the opposite actually. The belief that certain compounds have magical fat-boosting properties beyond their caloric value is very prole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793113) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 1:05 PM Author: talented new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793114) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 1:08 PM Author: indigo talking set degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793128) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 1:11 PM Author: Domesticated arousing pervert (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793144) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 3:40 PM Author: Razzmatazz juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793873) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 3:42 PM Author: adulterous rebellious hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793883) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 3:43 PM Author: Razzmatazz juggernaut cr. can't believe there are people here who think otherwise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793891) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 4:14 PM Author: rusted charismatic nursing home Consume 0.005 calories of hormonal birth control every day for a month and watch what happens to your body… (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794076) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 5:29 PM Author: Territorial supple international law enforcement agency CICO is definitely very reductionist and not useful for overall healthy eating, but IHNC what OP is talking about as far as weight loss/gain goes. Should've paid attention in high school chemistry when they went over thermodynamics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794446) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 6:24 PM Author: Cyan garrison psychic Lol what. It’s been proven that a diet higher in refined carbs will lead to greater fat gain than a diet of animal fat and protein even though the same number of calories are consumed. Are you flame? Where do these posters come from? I guess this is why most lawyers are obese or overweight. These are the people posting from pumos I guess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794633) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 6:51 PM Author: jade high-end site keepsake machete Why are you getting downvoted? Btw do you have a link (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794769) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 8:02 PM Author: Tan contagious scourge upon the earth This has not been shown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795064) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 8:00 PM Author: garnet dashing cruise ship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795049) |
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Date: July 6th, 2022 5:33 AM Author: Floppy location This implies that all macronutrients are digested equally easily or quickly, and are nutritionally interchangeable -- none of which is true. Calories are an important metric to measure food needs, but they're incomplete. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44802643) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 1:13 PM Author: indigo talking set degenerate No. CI/CO is absolutely the mechanism behind weight loss. If we could accurately calculate your daily caloric requirements and then you ate 500 calories less than that per day, you would lose 1 lb per week with 100% certainty.
Now I’m onboard with the idea that there may be environmental factors which make it harder for some people to diet. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 1:22 PM Author: Beta Jew CI/CO says nothing about WHERE the calories come from, hth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793192) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 3:39 PM Author: Razzmatazz juggernaut WHERE the calories come from doesn't matter dipshit. A calorie is a unit of energy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793860) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 3:46 PM Author: heady sandwich filthpig your body does not absorb all calories equally
if you put 100 calories of chocolate in a balloon and swallowed it, you'd shit out 100 calories of chocolate in a balloon even though you ate 100 calories
if you eat a whole box of Oreos in one sitting, you will shit out most of those calories instead of metabolizing them |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 3:49 PM Author: Razzmatazz juggernaut If it "doen't get absorbed" then that would mean it never was converted into energy and thus isn't even a calorie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793930) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 5:57 PM Author: glittery doctorate university Just "jump" when the choco milk hits your gullet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794533) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 8:03 PM Author: Tan contagious scourge upon the earth This is just flat out nonsense. Calories don't come in inorganic latex wrappers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795074) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 8:08 PM Author: bull headed zippy laser beams (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795105) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 6:25 PM Author: Cyan garrison psychic Holy fuck go back to Reddit this board is a shithole now filled with mouth breathers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794638) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 7:56 PM Author: indigo talking set degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795032) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 3:39 PM Author: Razzmatazz juggernaut cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793864) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 1:21 PM Author: Beta Jew There's some truth to it, but it leaves a lot missing from the picture.
Microplastics, processed sysco slop, mutated monsanto trash, etc. That shit all fucks with hormones and lowers metabolism. So effectively calories out goes down. Also could make you more likely to binge eat/overeat because you aren't satiated. So calories in goes up.
Depending on what you eat and how you exercise calories can go to or come from muscle, and go to or come from fat. Typically your body will burn fat and glycogen up to a certain point and then start to break down muscle. It's usually not a concern unless you are doing heavy cardio, but it might be with all of our jacked up hormones these days. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 3:34 PM Author: Tan contagious scourge upon the earth Correct (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793839) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 4:15 PM Author: rusted charismatic nursing home Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794082) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 4:16 PM Author: Domesticated arousing pervert Fast metabolism is a meme. HIIT is a meme. Endomorphism is a meme.
You eat too much food because you lack self control. That’s why you’re fat.
Burning muscle is a meme unless you’re a competition bodybuilder. But don’t forget to consoom your BCAAs. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 6:02 PM Author: Beta Jew i'll explain why this is a retarded straw man and unfounded ad hominem (no reddit) later...i've got to go eat some food it's 4th of July.
you aren't wrong about some of the stuff you said you are just retarded at interpreting other peoples' positions. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 6:17 PM Author: talented new version subscribed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794608) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 7:21 PM Author: Tan contagious scourge upon the earth There are ways to achieve a calorie deficit while barely even being bothered by hunger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794903) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 5:21 PM Author: jade high-end site keepsake machete (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794414) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 3:46 PM Author: Concupiscible Puppy Library op = retard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793907) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 3:54 PM Author: bistre frisky kitty It’s accurate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44793961) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 5:14 PM Author: At-the-ready flickering national turdskin One dumb thing about the calories in, calories out is that you have to figure out what "in" mans.
Just because you're putting in 5,000 calories doesn't necessarily mean your body is aborbing 5,000 calories. I'm just making shit up, but it sure seems to me that if you ate like 5,000 calories in one meal, your body is not going to take in those calories the same way they would if it was 5,000 over the course of the day. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 5:25 PM Author: frum parlour many factors at play
a slice of pizza might be 400 calories worth when hot but your body could absorb only half that if it’s cold |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 6:24 PM Author: bull headed zippy laser beams (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794634) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 5:43 PM Author: rusted charismatic nursing home Cr. The way the "scientists" calculate the "calories" in a piece of food is by putting it in an oven and BURNING IT and measuring the caloric thermal output... How in the hell is the energy output of a burning piece of food supposed to be representative of how many calories of that piece of food are absorbed by a human during metabolism. CICOhomos, care to explain??? |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 6:12 PM Author: Domesticated arousing pervert https://biologydictionary.net/aerobic-respiration/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794601) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 7:19 PM Author: Cyan garrison psychic Cr.
This thread is pretty good evidence why most lawyers are overweight and unhealthy. Way more people than you think are defending CICO for some reason. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 8:00 PM Author: Tan contagious scourge upon the earth It's literally the laws of thermodynamics. I can't tell if this is some kind of troll or what. There are about a million metabolic ward control studies that show a caloric deficit (based on food labels and confirmed by respiratory monitors) leads to the expected weight loss (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795052) |
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Date: July 5th, 2022 6:39 AM Author: Startling aquamarine range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44797073) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 7:25 PM Author: Provocative orchestra pit generalized bond 100% agree with this. Your body is a fucking genius. No way its like oh fuck Ron ate 20,000 calories off pizza today time to digest. Its totally pushing food straight into the toilet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794916) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 7:30 PM Author: Tan contagious scourge upon the earth It stores the excess calories as fat. A percentage of all calories is burned in the storage/use process, this is known as the thermic effect of food.
But there's no limiter on how many calories can be stored within a period of time other than capacity of your gut |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 7:43 PM Author: bistre frisky kitty Jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794972) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 8:04 PM Author: Tan contagious scourge upon the earth Great retort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795080) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 7:43 PM Author: bistre frisky kitty That’s a fair point, but it’s still true that calories in = calories out. Non-in calories don’t go out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794971) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 6:27 PM Author: Startling aquamarine range Calories is calories out accurately describes the long term dynamics of weight loss or gain and is basically irrefutable unless you propose to refute physics
It's not a nutritional be all end all (although fasting and low calorie diets are pretty overpowered in terms of health outcomes). But like 80% of Americans could improve their health outcomes if they'd just reduce their calorie intake meaningfully below their expenditure |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 7:16 PM Author: Cyan garrison psychic Lol where does the “refute physics” meme come from? A person’s body metabolizes different types of food differently even if they have the same number of calories. The result on body chemistry and body composition is likewise different.
Of course as a general rule it can help people lose weight but the real culprit is the type of food people are eating that is damaging their bodies, disrupting their hormones and metabolic processes, etc.
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Date: July 4th, 2022 8:06 PM Author: Tan contagious scourge upon the earth Metabolism is the same as "calories out." You can't disprove "calories in calories out" with an appeal to differences in metabolism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795086) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 8:10 PM Author: Startling aquamarine range Your first paragraph is vague handwaving that ignores the main issue.
If someone has a caloric deficit, then they will lose weight, whether their calories come from snickers bars or steaks or a balanced diet. Losing weight has a whole host of positive health associations, probably play least partially because excess fat increases cellular senescence
This doesn't mean that a snickers bar diet has much to recommend to it compared to normal diet. But it does mean that you can lose weight on such a diet, and will experience certain positive health effects from that weight loss (and if one has a really big caloric deficit, one might even experience some of the benefits of intermittent fasting incidentally)
Improved health outcomes for a huge percentage of (fat) people is actually really fucking simple: eat less than you burn. Also eat some variety so you don't get weird nutritional issues. No need to overcomplicate shit |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:21 PM Author: Carmine racy digit ratio community account That’s almost tautological. The question is how to sustainably run a deficit in a way that is not dependent on willpower. Really takes some thought. Can be easy to execute if you come up with a well thought out plan, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795661) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 6:57 PM Author: painfully honest magenta mexican If all fat Americans started counting calories for weight loss the economy would quickly collapse OP is a psyop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794795) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 7:11 PM Author: gaped brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794851) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 7:06 PM Author: Rose hospital indirect expression (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44794821) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 7:59 PM Author: garnet dashing cruise ship really low IQ poast (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795047) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 8:00 PM Author: Beady-eyed stage There is virtually no such thing as an obese person who does the following:
1. does not eat a large caloric excess every day (2500+ calories at a minimum)
2. eats primarily whole and unprocessed foods in reasonable quantities
3. routinely engages in physical activity
if you force anyone to do those threes things, they will cease to obese. all fats overeat and they eat garbage. over time, they just grow fatter unless they change their habits. it's just that easy. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 8:10 PM Author: bull headed zippy laser beams Nobody does all 3 though, so that can't be the reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795115) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 9:13 PM Author: Mischievous foreskin menage Any time you see someone over the age of 30 who is healthy and thin, they probably do all three of these things.
Fats love to scream and yell that sensible, normal eating is some kind of unachievable nightmare regimen that no mentally normal person can maintain. The truth is the fats have a mental disorder that prevents them from making a few simple lifestyle changes because they are addicted to eating and lack the simple discipline to move around for an hour every day. |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 9:28 PM Author: bull headed zippy laser beams Nobody with a normal life does all 3, let alone any of the 3. You are obviously some weird fob. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795490) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:08 PM Author: impressive vermilion public bath As someone known on this bort for gorging on McDoubles in his youth, I do all three now.
We just don't buy sweets or packaged foods (except for cold cuts/bacon), I work on my property basically everyday (today I bought and moved 7000lbs of hay into my barn).
I think the trick is to find a physical hobby and never let any junk food enter your home. Make a rule that any desert needs to be fully homemade (e.g. we sometimes have homemade brownies). |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:24 PM Author: bull headed zippy laser beams What do you do for fast food lunches and dinners? How can you get non-processed, good tasting, filling stuff for cheap through a drive thru? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795668) |
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Date: July 5th, 2022 6:34 AM Author: Carmine racy digit ratio community account Meal prep (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44797067) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:17 PM Author: Carmine racy digit ratio community account Actually lots of affluent people do all 3. Not hard to make a few habits and stick to them.
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:27 PM Author: exhilarant lettuce not doing all three can be isolated to huge walmart shopper beasts and the class they represent. it's true that poors are unlikely to engage in all three. but you are living in a deluded fantasy world if you think that educated middle class and better don't routinely hit all three to the best of their ability. there are fats at every level of society but once you get to normal people with college educations, the majority eat decent diets and exercise. the fact that you find it so outrageous means you are probably doomed by your obesity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795677) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:30 PM Author: bull headed zippy laser beams Normal white collar people with kids aren't exercising and cooking healthy all the time. How many kids do you have? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795688) |
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Date: July 8th, 2022 11:33 AM Author: white tank wtf all you have to do is #2 to not be a fatass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44815413) |
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Date: July 8th, 2022 11:32 AM Author: white tank what? I do all 3. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44815406) |
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Date: July 8th, 2022 11:32 AM Author: white tank All you had to do was say #2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44815403) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 9:15 PM Author: Obsidian kitchen Lol yeah the hack to the law of thermal dynamics sure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795423) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:35 PM Author: Comical Nowag House Can someone post that PDF to the environmental theory of obesity? Some autist wrote it. Basically it proved that from all the lithium in the water and all sorts of other weird shit (like lab animals with monitored diets are getting fatter, and soldiers associated to certain bases get fatter than other despite having the same diets) that environmental shit is fucking people up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44795706) |
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Date: July 4th, 2022 10:38 PM Author: Comical Nowag House https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27936016
but the paper link I think is dead |
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Date: July 5th, 2022 8:43 AM Author: white tank God damn I thought this was a fucking bort for smart people?
Calories are a measure of heat energy in a closed system. The body is an open system that uses chemical energy. Calories as measured by a bomb calorimeter are completely irrelevant.
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Date: July 8th, 2022 11:47 AM Author: talented new version It's not the same thing, but calories explain 100 precent of weight gain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#44815494) |
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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:17 PM Author: fishy boltzmann LMAO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#49073934) |
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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:20 PM Author: Bespoke Vibrant Locale Philosopher-king Environmental factors like Oreos floating around in the air and aggressively divebombing into fats’ mouths (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&forum_id=2#49073948) |