can someone break down in simple language what shitliberals actually believe in
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Date: October 10th, 2024 4:33 PM Author: startling talented box office
big hot take here but libs just want and believe the same stuff that the rest of us want and believe
the difference is that in order for them to get what they want and believe (wealth, success, sex, status, etc), they have to completely warp everything about the world in bizarre and evil and destructive ways. because they are inferior and so in order for them to be superior, everything has to be perverted
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Date: October 10th, 2024 8:10 PM Author: lascivious brindle roommate fortuitous meteor
Agree it's true for shitliberalism
But it's also true for a large swatch of modern society
Trump is godlike because he's fought against that his entire life in nyc
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Date: October 10th, 2024 4:43 PM Author: Lake vengeful shrine factory reset button
shitlibs are over-correcting for what they perceive to be problematic behavior in the past. they basically have completely rejected everything humans have typically done/believed and embraced modernity to an unhealthy degree. they have swung the pendulum too far in the opposite direction.
shitlibs worship science, technology, individualism. because historically, tribalism led to violent horrors, they reject it and go to the opposite extreme. in an effort to be "educated", they over-consume media. in an effort to be "equal", shitlib women act like men. where there was once the bible/societal norms strongly regulating behavior, there is now a worship of being as tolerant as possible. "tolerance" is the new religion. and they apply their new guiding principle, "tolerance" to all behaviors.
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Date: October 10th, 2024 5:10 PM Author: swollen twinkling uncleanness
I'm making this up as I go along, please feel free to critique.
IMHO: US Liberalism is a tradition, not a religion, and it is a tradition that began in earnest when the Quakers took their crazy religion and left England to settle in the New World to establish a Christian and moral utopia. It's a tradition that was alive in the founding of the US, as much of the justifications for the revolution were moral based. This tradition of hardcore morality continued through the 1800's where the protestant religion splintered into all of these crazy sects (like 7th day evangelical, etc.). These varying sects united against the South and used the issue of chattel slavery as a moral unifying purpose, and through the political process, basically took over the US Federal government, overthrew the original intent of the US Constitution (civil war, 14th amendment), and established themselves as the group that decides policy and the moral order of the US.
Liberalism is not really racial in nature - they don't necessarily hate whites - but their hatred of white Southerners remains as a vestige of their first great rise to power. It's a throw back to the 1860's and 1960's victories that liberals had which increased their power, but there isn't necessarily a KKK style "no whites" rule. For instance, most liberals are white, and most black folks could care less about lib moralizing.
They began shed their ties to Christianity after WWI - maybe had something to do with influx of Jewish people, maybe not - as most western cultures became less religious and traditionalist after the world wars (i.e. the failure and collapse of the traditional European system of government and life in general). In the 1960's, with communism on the march, Liberals shed all ties to Christianity and embraced anti-racism, environmentalism, and feminism as their guiding moral principles.
This is a long post because you can't understand libs unless you understand how they got to where they are. They follow a tradition that is very American, a tradition that has been wholly successful, that was once evangelical Christian, but is entirely based upon moralism and realpolitik. There are no "principles," outside of this idea of moralism progressing through time, revealing itself and its truths as its adherents faithfully carry on (truths that also happen to always seek to consolidate power to force the world to bend to the blinding truth of it's moral righteousness). It's like a stream of water, twisting and turning, continuing through the landscape, always moving forward, getting wider, leading you further into truth and righteousness. It is not consistent, there are no coherent principles, and it is highly dependent upon human leaders taking the lead and showing the way. There is no truth higher than moral truth, and adhering to moral truth is the highest duty imposed on a person, and there is no greater sin than failing to adhere to moral truth.
So:
Your daughter gets killed by immigrants, Libs: we should not use this tragedy to allow the racists to speak.
Women's liberation and women's rights were pushed for decades, but once trannies were deemed a higher class morally, see-you-later women's sports, and it makes moral sense.
Women's rights to do whatever they want is supreme, even if that means supporting legal prostitution, with prostitution being the most base and egregious act of degrading and exploiting women - fine.
Protecting Jewish people was a moral imperative, until Palestinians became the new moral imperative, now it's not so clear.
Probably the best example: abortion is infanticide and anyone who doesn't understand that it's killing an unborn human child is willfully blind. But liberalism defends the right to abortion as an absolute moral imperative, a moral imperative, because the morality of "women can do whatever they want" outweighs "probably wrong to kill your child" - and this weighing of moral issues is done people, based only upon emotional appeals.
TLDR: liberalism is an American tradition that lost its way in the 1960's once it was decoupled from Christianity, and it is based upon the moral whims of the day, not any sort of timeless defining principles.
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Date: October 10th, 2024 8:51 PM Author: Sadistic stead philosopher-king
I think this is a little bit off.
First of all historically speaking the people you are broadly calling "Quakers" can be traced back to the Puritans, Cromwell, Reformed Theology, and Calvinism generally. And some of these people literally hated Quakers and would hang them but nevertheless Quakers co-evolved with these traditions and it all ended up into the same place.
What happened was this. John Calvin's teachings created a bunch of Super People. These societies were both extremely hard working, industrious, intellectually clever, committed to reason and science, believed in enterprise and risk taking, as well as religious tolerance. They created breathtakingly wealthy egalitarian hyper societies built on high trust and cooperation. And ethnically they mostly only came frequently England, Scotland, Netherlands, and to a lesser extent northern Germany.
They were the first to tolerate the Jews. They got an influx of them in Holland and in the colonies because the Spanish and the Portuguese kept kicking them out.
One thing that's really bizarre on the evolution of Reformed Protestants is that at one point they were highly intolerant and then went fully the other way. Eg in Cromwell's time drinking and Christmas were banned and some of the people on the Mayflower thought Anglicans ought to be hanged for being too similar to Catholicism. They were really hardcore. They were basically proto Jews, they were insular and would do things to benefit each other and created all kinds of financial scams.
But if you want to give a specific date on when Reformed Protestants abandoned Christianity, I'd say it was around the time John Adams was born in the early 1700s. That's when their uber successful societies that gave so much to so many started to get to them and the liberal guilt kicked in. That was around the time that they stopped believing people could go to Hell because it was too mean to conceive of.
You're right that there was a schism between North and South. The South kept believing and the North didn't. If anything SDA and the Second Great Awakening was about northerners trying to become religious again and not centered in the material world.
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Date: October 10th, 2024 7:56 PM Author: Territorial Ebony Voyeur
IN THIS HOUSE WE BELIEVE
ALL KIDS ARE TRANS
WHITE PEOPLE SUCK
ABORTIONS ARE MANDATORY
SCIENCE IS REAL
GAY IS GOLD
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Date: October 10th, 2024 8:27 PM Author: Sadistic stead philosopher-king
I'm gonna scroll back up and respond to some screeds but first, if I may...
In my opinion at the fundamental core of the lib mind is sheer terror that they're not important and that they don't count for anything and they don't matter. Proles don't have this gene in fact most proles will tell you they don't give a shit about their personal legacy and what happens on the Earth after they die.
Taylor Swift is the epitome of the ascended liberal. She's has no talent, doesn't have anything to say, but managed via marketing and will to hog the conversation. Her art sucks and she's someone who no one would normally care about. She should have gone by the way side long ago like Jojo or Demi. Just gone away somewhere. But she couldn't stomach not winning. Libs love to win. They don't actually have any ideology besides making everything about themselves.
Now take Taylor Swift, make her an ugly bald Jewish man and a fancy degree and that's how you end up with your average shitlib. They're out there by the millions just trying to win at their shitty little niche in life. Completely and utterly terrified that no one cares about them nor knows they exist, something that would never bother a prole.
The truth is 20% of the ants build 100% of the colony. Everyone society has a CSLG who can't stop won't stop. Some guy built Buc-ees from nothing just grit and determination. And libs could never do that. They're not talented, not good looking, they're not good at anything, but the degree says WUSTL and they can't stop thinking about how that's supposed to mean something and how they ought to be somebody.
Others ITT have covered the state religion aspect of it but I don't think libs care at all about what the beliefs actually are as long as they retain power. It's just about WINNING. Their side has to WIN forever and hold onto power and you ride up through institutions and you get degrees and you build alliances and consensus and follow the rules.
Michael Malice has some bit about the mundaneness of evil in Communist societies. Libs are evil in the most mundane way. Just slowly in a bureaucratic way ratting out their enemies and compiling lists of dissidents never once stopping to think why. It's about looking in the mirror, not looking out at the world. Everything about liberal views are empirically false but they made it into a grand contraption that benefits themselves.
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