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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
gold appetizing stage psychic
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Burgundy church
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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nyuug
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
dun meetinghouse
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
obsidian vigorous locus lettuce
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
dun meetinghouse
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
obsidian vigorous locus lettuce
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
dun meetinghouse
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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Exhilarant pearl native famous landscape painting
  07/13/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Stirring maize abode macaca
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cq
Duck-like Claret Mental Disorder Prole
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
Orange roast beef
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
Glittery menage boltzmann
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
startling dog poop hall
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
Zippy institution alpha
  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: gold appetizing stage psychic

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Burgundy church

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Burgundy church

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Burgundy church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Burgundy church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Burgundy church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Burgundy church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Burgundy church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Burgundy church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49117359)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: dun meetinghouse

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: obsidian vigorous locus lettuce

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: dun meetinghouse

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: obsidian vigorous locus lettuce

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: dun meetinghouse

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Glittery menage boltzmann

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: nighttime garrison reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Exhilarant pearl native famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Stirring maize abode macaca

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Duck-like Claret Mental Disorder Prole

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Orange roast beef

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Glittery menage boltzmann

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: startling dog poop hall

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Zippy institution alpha

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: iridescent rebellious chad

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49105022)