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what's xoxo's opinion on Stefan Molyneux?

i've been listening to this guy every day. he's a bit pompou...
histrionic doctorate forum
  01/25/14
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histrionic doctorate forum
  02/01/14
examples of stuff you agree with him on?
Big filthpig therapy
  02/01/14
alcohol/drug prohibition = more harm than good minimum wage...
histrionic doctorate forum
  02/01/14
ok sure. other than the hitting children bit tho (which I th...
Big filthpig therapy
  02/01/14
do you think Murray Rothbard himself was naive? do you belie...
histrionic doctorate forum
  02/01/14
Yeah I think Rothbard was naive and gives rise to a lot of &...
Big filthpig therapy
  02/01/14
most ancaps from what i've read on Mises Institute articles,...
histrionic doctorate forum
  02/01/14
The "smash the state" isn't just about advocating ...
Big filthpig therapy
  02/01/14
this article illustrates what i'm talking about btw: http...
Big filthpig therapy
  02/01/14
i'm not sure this really strikes against Stefan. he advocate...
histrionic doctorate forum
  02/01/14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igbBItLemsM He says that v...
Big filthpig therapy
  02/01/14
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Genius Theologian
  01/18/26
Incredible bump holy shit 180
walking JCM down the aisle (the XO front page)
  01/18/26
he pretends to be a free speech warrior, but is really more ...
'"'''"'''""""
  01/18/26
didn't *they* basically make it impossible to find his conte...
htt
  01/18/26
yeah he got banned at one point, but he was an asshole who u...
'"'''"'''""""
  01/18/26
Never heard of him, but where does he stand on the JQ?
xofortnite07
  01/18/26


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Date: January 25th, 2014 11:56 AM
Author: histrionic doctorate forum

i've been listening to this guy every day. he's a bit pompous/arrogant, but i agree with him on most things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#24893292)



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Date: February 1st, 2014 1:32 PM
Author: histrionic doctorate forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#24936218)



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Date: February 1st, 2014 1:35 PM
Author: Big filthpig therapy

examples of stuff you agree with him on?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#24936229)



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Date: February 1st, 2014 1:46 PM
Author: histrionic doctorate forum

alcohol/drug prohibition = more harm than good

minimum wage laws = racist, hurt poor people + (unpaid internships = lib hypocrisy)

hitting children = counter-productive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#24936260)



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Date: February 1st, 2014 1:54 PM
Author: Big filthpig therapy

ok sure. other than the hitting children bit tho (which I think is really important) I don't think he necessarily knows tons more about a lot of stuff than a well-read run-of-the-mill libertarian.

i basically think he makes some valuable points but is a bit too naively anti-state in that Murray Rothbard-fan kinda way.

also he advises people to cut off relationships with their parents when something way way short of that (like actually setting boundaries with pushy/controlling parents and enforcing them) would be way better for most people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#24936287)



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Date: February 1st, 2014 2:05 PM
Author: histrionic doctorate forum

do you think Murray Rothbard himself was naive? do you believe society can prosper without government police? without the SEC or FDA?

i may lean towards you on the cutting off parents thing. all parents make mistakes. some people are weak though, and their parents are too old to change. i might recommend moving away and being your own person for 5 years or so with minimal parental contact. then you can go back and form a new relationship with your parents once you've developed yourself adequately.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#24936345)



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Date: February 1st, 2014 2:14 PM
Author: Big filthpig therapy

Yeah I think Rothbard was naive and gives rise to a lot of "smash the state" anarchism in the modern libertarian movement.

I certainly don't think we need the SEC or FDA btw.

I think you can theoretically have a society without a government but the way there is not by smashing the state or hoping for the collapse of the existing state (which would probably just lead to total fascism anyways), but by gradual reform, supplanting institutions with market-based alternatives, and small-scale experimentation that moves the ball forward. That's a lot of hard work that involves figuring out how to better persuade people, coming up with innovative business models, and figuring out niches where small scale implementation involving application of the ideas of liberty is possible; this is opposed to the approach of many folks which is basically sitting on their hands waiting for the revolution and libertopia.

I think lots of dumb libertarians are stuck in this mentality of "we either have to smash the state or hope it gets so bad that there's a rebellion" though. I think that kind of mentality is idiotic and counterproductive to real, legitimate efforts for reform. Even if you're sympathetic to anarcho-capitalism, you need to work on figuring out how to get people on board for partial social security privatization before you can, say, privatize the fucking military.

BTW a good early anarchist thinker is William Godwin. I'd recommend finding a copy of Enquiry Concerning Political Justice online if you're interested in reading about a less revolutionary sort of approach to anarchism.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#24936397)



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Date: February 1st, 2014 2:20 PM
Author: histrionic doctorate forum

most ancaps from what i've read on Mises Institute articles, /r/anarcho_capitalism, and various youtube videos like Stefan's, are against "smashing the state" (forceful revolution) or any kind of initiation of violence to bring about stateless society. most of them are rooting for voluntary developments like special economic zones, seasteading, cryptocurrencies, and gradual changes in our behavior and mindsets through education which will allow us to shed the State.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#24936431)



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Date: February 1st, 2014 3:04 PM
Author: Big filthpig therapy

The "smash the state" isn't just about advocating forceful revolution. It's about discouraging people from participating in efforts towards gradual, peaceful reform within the system through the democratic process. It's also connected to a very distorted sense of how bad, say, Western governments are versus governments overseas. This has a lot of subtle manifestations (like various modern Austrians' hostility towards democracy and their neo-Confederate sympathizing and near-pacifist foreign policy views).

I'm in favor of developing cryptocurrencies and even stuff like seasteading (though I think the applicability will be way more limited than some advocates -- might be useful for, say, medical tourism or web servers, but will not lead to Snow Crash-style phyles) but I think that needs to be part of an integrated strategy of also trying to persuade people and work within the system. If people are sufficiently hostile to a new development then shit will get shut down and driven underground, and you'll have bitcoin as an "underground drug currency" and seasteads getting boarded by Marines on trumped-up charges. You simply can't ignore trying to persuade people in your society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#24936616)



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Date: February 1st, 2014 3:07 PM
Author: Big filthpig therapy

this article illustrates what i'm talking about btw:

http://mises.ca/posts/blog/in-defense-of-liberty-extremism/

it sets up a false dichotomy between having strong convictions and being willing to take gradual steps forward. it's true in practice that lots of people interested in gradual steps have mushy ideals, and lots of people with strong convictions are uninterested in gradual steps. but that's cuz both groups of people are wrong in some respects.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#24936632)



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Date: February 1st, 2014 3:27 PM
Author: histrionic doctorate forum

i'm not sure this really strikes against Stefan. he advocates multi-generational change beginning with peaceful parenting (which starts with educating people). so eventually we get a generation of peaceful people. if you come to a country like Taiwan (where i am now), you will actually see this. a country with almost no violence in its culture despite a very violent and authoritarian past. and after you get a generation of peaceful people, you can try to change things further. in other words, i think Stefan's approach is pretty gradual. he doesn't think it's going to happen in one or two generations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#24936736)



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Date: February 1st, 2014 4:02 PM
Author: Big filthpig therapy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igbBItLemsM

He says that voting gives sanction to evil. But democratic systems allow peaceful change when compared to other forms of government, *assuming* you can persuade enough people to adopt your ideas. Progress in democracy is not automatic, of course -- nothing is. But this feature of democracy is good. Democracy is *good*. But here Stefan is bashing this good thing, which allows for gradual, peaceful, non-violent change. That's fucked and goes against what you say regarding his approach.

He characterizes voting as a pitiful plea of a slave. But that's ridiculous. The American conception of voting is that the people are sovereign and the government gets its ability to do stuff based on the sanction of the sovereign at the polls. This is such a powerful idea, btw, that even most dictatorial foreign governments feel the need to hold faux-elections -- they're unable to nakedly claim, as was once common, divine right or might makes right or any of that stuff.

This is just based off the first couple of minutes of the video by the way...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#24936981)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:07 PM
Author: Genius Theologian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#49599961)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:09 PM
Author: walking JCM down the aisle (the XO front page)

Incredible bump holy shit 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#49599969)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:09 PM
Author: '"'''"'''""""

he pretends to be a free speech warrior, but is really more of a free speech for me not thee type. doesn't really understand how the first amendment works, which is unsurprising since he's a canadian. in short, just another bald fraud right wing grifter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#49599965)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:33 PM
Author: htt

didn't *they* basically make it impossible to find his content? just like that Milo guy got disappeared

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#49600027)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:40 PM
Author: '"'''"'''""""

yeah he got banned at one point, but he was an asshole who used to sic his fanboys on actual principled free speech defenders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#49600046)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:37 PM
Author: xofortnite07

Never heard of him, but where does he stand on the JQ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2477252&forum_id=2#49600033)