Second of all, it’s hard to relate to people who have chosen not to have children for whatever reason. They are so weird.

Finally, a lot of times, these people just want to veg out and watch screens all day and let their life waste away into nothing. Or alternatively they go and travel too much. Either way, it’s depressing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371446)

romans wrote about the same problems as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371751)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371449)

im also suprised because in the 90's 00's even 10's it was super expected to have kids, everyone defaulted to that but now its almost like in the span of just a few years the default has become never having kids and its not just SPS USA its spread to asia too, this feminazi shrew bullshit is taking over

i dunno why but i tend to blame the jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371471)

Considering the wedding party’s spouses, this means that 18 adults of child bearing age (or were child bearing age in the 2000s and 2010s, now getting a bit old), only 10 children were produced. Now, it is still possible that one or two might be squeezed out, but no way are we getting to replacement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371529)

I'm pretty sure it's in the bible somewhere, no one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both your children and be a bougie ho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371504)

All the better as far as I'm concerned, learning about your family's heritage, culture, and religion should be a father's job anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371652)

It also hurts that Mom hates that I take the kids on Sundays because she doesn't like that I have to get out of bed, get them ready, etc. Any event that requires the kids to look nice will always entail some degree of struggle to get the kids ready. However, the kids like going, we either walk or take the golf cart, and once we leave the house my wife just watches TV by herself until we come home.

But yea, it's not ideal, but I appreciate that the children's spiritual upbringing is left entirely to me and I really take this responsibility as seriously as I can.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371729)

Edit: I'm more referring to the fact that it doesn't seem like a big deal to just spend one hour a week in the church to stay together as a family. Obviously faith itself is difficult.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371784)

It's more of a problem with her thinking - which seems focused on satisfying needs on a minute by minute basis. She suffers from panic attack meltdowns pretty frequently, so it seems she spends most of her time on Earth just moving from one "I want this now" to the next "I want this now," but does so with an urgency as if she gets upset she can spiral out of control at any moment. The greater questions of life don't bother her, it is more of "I am tired now" - so she has to lay down, or "I am hungry and want pizza," so she would be focused on getting pizza. There just isn't much more going on than that, and having a robust spirituality does nothing to resolve the pressing issue of something like "it's nice out and I want a new outfit," or something like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47372215)

What is this BS? Look at the history of humanity and note that this has never been the case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371640)

Life is just too fragile and some people cannot handle that uncertainty. With being educated comes a stronger desire to be in control and stronger awareness of what all can go wrong.

Also, we are no longer peasants producing labor units. These kids need to be sustained and educated for extended period of time till they can be independent. Many people don't want to do that and I can understand that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371551)

necessitates females stay at home their entire adulthood, which is all well and good until our ((economy)) figured out how rich some can get once females are out "earning" and "spending"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371580)

They need about 12. Children were self sufficient by pre pubescent age before the modern era

Nothing about how we currently treat children makes any sense. It's actually very creepy and disturbing when you really break down how we see and treat children in the current year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371777)

Even Bill Maher who is probably one of the coolest childless people ever to live is still an enormous fag and 99.999999% of childless are never going to be on TV for 30 years doing a dream job. And he's still a fag for not having kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371874)

Children are now a luxury good, and a luxury good that takes an enormous amount of effort and investment - more effort and investment than any other luxury good or status symbol. I’m not passing a value judgment on this I’m just stating the facts

If we want people to have kids we have to incentivize them to do it in some way. Giving them money isn’t enough (pro natalist handouts to parents don’t actually work in practice). We have to give them status, and an overwhelming amount of it, enough to more than offset the massive burden of having and raising children. It has to be socially unacceptable to be a childless bachelor or an old maid. And keep in mind that I’m saying this as a childless bachelor myself

Almost no one is even willing to honestly recognize the real problem, let alone entertain the solution. Any time I bring up any of this stuff people just sperg out, whether it’s irl or online. It’s always just endless virtue signaling and whining and circle jerking and cowardly avoidance of talking about reality

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371568)

this is your brain on the modern world, ladies and gentlemen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371575)

This is exactly what I’m talking about. People like you going Full Gunnerattt and immediately sperging out before you can even have a conversation with them about this topic. Use your brain. Focus

If you are too dumb and/or too lazy to spend a few minutes trying to grasp this kind of an abstract equation, you shouldn’t even be worrying about this stuff to begin with. Keep building your widgets or fart apps and raising your kids. You’re already doing your job. Leave the thinking stuff to the smart people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371592)

truth is most babies were accidents historically and now the jewish death pill eliminates most of them. this is the biggest reason, even if bitches were working and u had all these other cost probs there still wld be far more kids being born if the jewish death pill didnt exist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371590)

We used to heavily socially incentivize having children in order to be socially accepted as an adult in society. We no longer do that. It should not be a surprise that people are not having kids. Why would they?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371788)

it's just hard for me to fathom how someone who seemingly hates their own life, who wallows in pity and despair all the time, is clamoring to spawn more innocent souls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371599)

My point is that people’s decision to have kids or not goes beyond economic incentives/viability

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371776)

I think people significantly underestimate the impact of economic incentives/viability on people having kids. Some of these aren't direct but still have massive impact. For example, setting up careers takes much longer, people wait until they're settled in their career to pursue marriage/kids, that means many don't seriously start on that until their 30s which also reduces the number of kids they will ultimately have. Another aspect is that people move around for schools/jobs readily and combined with smaller families, you don't have the large extended families that share the burden of raising kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371829)

https://twitter.com/DinaPomeranz/status/1750773579220709638

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371660)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47373008)

Pushed the flame a little hard there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371872)

A weak, pathetic father leaves a bad taste in children's mouth like very little else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5486635&forum_id=2#47371947)