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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Well-lubricated stain
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
hyperactive chartreuse rigor black woman
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
hyperactive chartreuse rigor black woman
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Glittery internal respiration pit
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
bright station
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
irradiated bat shit crazy puppy
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
lavender idea he suggested
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
cracking sepia headpube library
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
cracking sepia headpube library
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
cracking sepia headpube library
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
crusty lemon heaven
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
massive set circlehead
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Embarrassed To The Bone Metal New Version Digit Ratio
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
irradiated bat shit crazy puppy
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Well-lubricated stain
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
mahogany hunting ground hell
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
High-end spruce place of business
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
galvanic house tattoo
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Well-lubricated stain
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
swollen wild theater stage codepig
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home
  06/26/25
...
Rusted bateful meetinghouse
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Trip henna shrine famous landscape painting
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
snowy mother
  06/26/25
...
offensive candlestick maker stag film
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Swashbuckling buff chapel kitty
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
internet-worthy cruise ship halford
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Outnumbered sound barrier
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
internet-worthy cruise ship halford
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
irradiated bat shit crazy puppy
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
lavender idea he suggested
  06/27/25
...
Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
crawly motley base sweet tailpipe
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
internet-worthy cruise ship halford
  06/27/25
...
Multi-colored bearded lettuce
  06/27/25
...
Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Outnumbered sound barrier
  06/27/25
How is STB?
lavender idea he suggested
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Duck-like center windowlicker
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
irradiated bat shit crazy puppy
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Trip henna shrine famous landscape painting
  06/27/25
...
Green principal's office
  06/27/25
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irradiated bat shit crazy puppy
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Well-lubricated stain

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: hyperactive chartreuse rigor black woman

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: hyperactive chartreuse rigor black woman

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Glittery internal respiration pit

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: bright station

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: irradiated bat shit crazy puppy

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: lavender idea he suggested

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: cracking sepia headpube library

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: cracking sepia headpube library

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: cracking sepia headpube library

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: crusty lemon heaven

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: massive set circlehead

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Metal New Version Digit Ratio

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: irradiated bat shit crazy puppy

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Well-lubricated stain

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: mahogany hunting ground hell

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: High-end spruce place of business

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: galvanic house tattoo

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Well-lubricated stain

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: swollen wild theater stage codepig

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Rusted bateful meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Trip henna shrine famous landscape painting

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: snowy mother

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: offensive candlestick maker stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Swashbuckling buff chapel kitty

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: internet-worthy cruise ship halford

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Outnumbered sound barrier

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: internet-worthy cruise ship halford

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: irradiated bat shit crazy puppy

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: lavender idea he suggested

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: crawly motley base sweet tailpipe

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: internet-worthy cruise ship halford

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Multi-colored bearded lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Arrogant House-broken Private Investor Nursing Home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Outnumbered sound barrier

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: lavender idea he suggested

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Duck-like center windowlicker

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: irradiated bat shit crazy puppy

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Trip henna shrine famous landscape painting

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Green principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: irradiated bat shit crazy puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053817)