Layers of reality my friend:

Quantum level - shit just popping into and out of existence in a random way that is also paradoxically mathematically predictable but not precise

Physical/chemical level - built on the quantum level, entropy, atoms going to their lowest energy states, particles colliding deterministically

Biological level - built on the chemical/physical level each organism a vessel for genetic information to be carried to the next generation. The bits of information that confer survivability and increased reproduction in a given environment move on, as the environment changes there is selection for other bits of information and the genetic information changes

Psychological level -built in the biological level, each organism behaving in a way to increase survival lability and reproduction. For humans our lives are driven by memetic desire (wanting what other people want) and status games (money, power, fame, respect, adoration) because those are the things that have been shown to increase survivability and increased reproduction

Metaphysical/religious/shared consciousness/narrative level - built on the Psychological level. Humans create stories and narratives that give our lives meaning and a reason to go on.

Human existence and societal flourishing can only be understood at that highest level. The harsh and cold truth of the previous layers cannot sustain a society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5269724&forum_id=2#45780649)

1. Quantum level: While it is true that quantum mechanics involves probabilistic behavior and inherent uncertainty, describing it as "shit just popping into and out of existence" is an oversimplification. Quantum phenomena are governed by mathematical principles and can be precisely described within the framework of quantum mechanics. The paradoxical nature you mention is due to the wave-particle duality and the observer effect, but these concepts are subject to ongoing scientific investigation and interpretation.

2. Physical/chemical level: Describing the physical/chemical level as solely determined by entropy and particles colliding deterministically overlooks the complexity and emergent properties that arise from interactions at this level. It is important to consider the role of self-organization, emergent phenomena, and the interplay of various physical laws that contribute to the richness of the physical and chemical world.

3. Biological level: While genetic information and natural selection play crucial roles in evolution, reducing the biological level to genes and reproductive success neglects the intricate interplay of environment, development, behavior, and epigenetic factors in shaping organisms. Additionally, contemporary understanding acknowledges the importance of cooperation, symbiosis, and non-genetic inheritance in the dynamics of biological systems.

4. Psychological level: The claim that humans are primarily driven by memetic desire and status games oversimplifies the complexity of human motivation and behavior. While social and cultural factors influence human actions, it is crucial to recognize the diversity of human experiences, the influence of individual psychology, cognitive processes, emotions, and the interplay of various intrinsic and extrinsic motivations that shape human behavior.

5. Metaphysical/religious/shared consciousness/narrative level: Labeling this level as the highest and suggesting that it alone can sustain society overlooks the nuanced nature of human existence and societal flourishing. While narratives and shared meanings contribute to human societies, it is important to recognize the plurality of worldviews, the role of critical thinking, and the potential conflicts that can arise from differing narratives. Societal flourishing is influenced by a wide range of factors, including social justice, equity, environmental sustainability, and ethical considerations that go beyond metaphysical or religious narratives.

In summary, while the "Layers of reality" framework provides a simplified overview of different levels of understanding, it is important to engage in deeper analysis and consider the complexity, interdependencies, and multidimensional nature of reality and the human condition. A more comprehensive examination can provide a richer and more nuanced perspective on these topics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5269724&forum_id=2#46519091)

1. Quantum level: At the quantum level, the universe exhibits probabilistic behavior and fundamental uncertainty. Quantum mechanics provides a mathematical framework to understand the behavior of particles and the fundamental forces of nature. It encompasses phenomena such as superposition, entanglement, and wave-particle duality. The quantum realm sets the stage for the emergence of physical reality.

2. Physical level: Building upon the quantum level, the physical level encompasses the laws of physics, including classical mechanics, electromagnetism, thermodynamics, and relativity. This layer describes the behavior of matter and energy, the formation and evolution of galaxies, stars, and planets, and the fundamental principles that govern the physical world.

3. Chemical level: At the chemical level, the focus shifts to the interactions and transformations of atoms and molecules. Chemical processes give rise to the diverse array of compounds and substances found in the natural world. Understanding chemical reactions and molecular interactions is crucial to comprehending the complexities of biological systems.

4. Biological level: The biological level is characterized by the study of living organisms, their structures, functions, and the processes that sustain life. Biological systems exhibit properties such as growth, reproduction, metabolism, and adaptation. The study of genetics, cellular biology, physiology, and ecology helps us understand the intricacies of life forms, from single-celled organisms to complex ecosystems.

5. Psychological level: Expanding upon the biological level, the psychological level encompasses the study of the human mind and behavior. It encompasses fields such as cognitive psychology, neuroscience, and behavioral science. Understanding perception, cognition, emotion, consciousness, and social behavior provides insights into human experiences, decision-making, and the construction of individual and collective identities.

6. Sociocultural level: The sociocultural level acknowledges the influence of social structures, cultural norms, and institutions on individuals and societies. It encompasses fields such as sociology, anthropology, and cultural studies. Examining social hierarchies, power dynamics, social interactions, cultural practices, and belief systems helps us understand how societies function, evolve, and shape human behavior.

7. Metaphysical/philosophical level: At the metaphysical and philosophical level, we explore questions related to the nature of reality, existence, consciousness, ethics, and the search for meaning. This layer delves into philosophical traditions, metaphysical concepts, moral theories, and debates surrounding free will, determinism, the mind-body problem, and the nature of truth.

8. Transcendent/interconnected level: Beyond the metaphysical level, some perspectives contemplate a transcendent or interconnected layer. This encompasses notions of spiritual experiences, mystical traditions, and interconnectedness between individuals, nature, and the cosmos. It involves exploring concepts of transcendence, higher states of consciousness, and the interplay between the individual and the larger whole.

Understanding reality and the human condition involves navigating these layers and their interconnections. It requires interdisciplinary exploration, critical thinking, and open-mindedness to grasp the intricacies of our existence, the complexities of the natural world, and the diverse perspectives that contribute to our understanding of reality and human flourishing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5269724&forum_id=2#46519096)

How are you jumping from physical descriptions to something like “shared consciousness”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5269724&forum_id=2#46599917)

Eg Aztecs believing in human sacrifice, Americans believing in the dollar, sportsnuts believing in the rules of a sport , etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5269724&forum_id=2#46599920)