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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law...
thirsty gold brethren
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Adventurous partner people who are hurt
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
chartreuse aromatic brunch
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Adventurous partner people who are hurt
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
chartreuse aromatic brunch
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
charcoal hilarious plaza shitlib
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Milky Yapping Public Bath
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Adventurous partner people who are hurt
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
irradiated temple
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
hairraiser chest-beating persian
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Spruce vivacious cuckoldry
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Adventurous partner people who are hurt
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Spruce vivacious cuckoldry
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Spruce vivacious cuckoldry
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Adventurous partner people who are hurt
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
fear-inspiring mind-boggling senate travel guidebook
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Adventurous partner people who are hurt
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Adventurous partner people who are hurt
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Adventurous partner people who are hurt
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Provocative Mother
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Clear exciting pocket flask doctorate
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
irradiated temple
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Adventurous partner people who are hurt
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
thirsty gold brethren
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Adventurous partner people who are hurt
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Glassy property
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
heady associate community account
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
orchid box office
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
thirsty gold brethren
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
citrine step-uncle's house
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Adventurous partner people who are hurt
  06/26/25
...
Soul-stirring claret mental disorder
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Dun thriller bawdyhouse
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Adulterous Friendly Grandma
  06/26/25
...
Bronze House
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
vigorous principal's office multi-billionaire
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
spectacular frisky striped hyena
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Pea-brained titillating hospital trust fund
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Adventurous partner people who are hurt
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
spectacular frisky striped hyena
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Adventurous partner people who are hurt
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
irradiated temple
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
hairraiser chest-beating persian
  06/27/25
...
Adventurous partner people who are hurt
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Apoplectic puppy
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
spectacular frisky striped hyena
  06/27/25
...
floppy point sneaky criminal
  06/27/25
...
Adventurous partner people who are hurt
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Pea-brained titillating hospital trust fund
  06/27/25
How is STB?
hairraiser chest-beating persian
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Avocado Big Yarmulke Idea He Suggested
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
irradiated temple
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Dun thriller bawdyhouse
  06/27/25
...
puce maniacal new version
  06/27/25
...
irradiated temple
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: thirsty gold brethren

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Adventurous partner people who are hurt

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: chartreuse aromatic brunch

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Adventurous partner people who are hurt

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: chartreuse aromatic brunch

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: charcoal hilarious plaza shitlib

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Milky Yapping Public Bath

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Adventurous partner people who are hurt

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: irradiated temple

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: hairraiser chest-beating persian

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Spruce vivacious cuckoldry

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Adventurous partner people who are hurt

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Spruce vivacious cuckoldry

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Spruce vivacious cuckoldry

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Adventurous partner people who are hurt

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: fear-inspiring mind-boggling senate travel guidebook

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Adventurous partner people who are hurt

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Adventurous partner people who are hurt

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Adventurous partner people who are hurt

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Provocative Mother

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Clear exciting pocket flask doctorate

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: irradiated temple

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Adventurous partner people who are hurt

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: thirsty gold brethren

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Adventurous partner people who are hurt

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Glassy property

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: heady associate community account

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: orchid box office

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: thirsty gold brethren

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: citrine step-uncle's house

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Adventurous partner people who are hurt

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Soul-stirring claret mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Dun thriller bawdyhouse

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Adulterous Friendly Grandma

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Bronze House



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: vigorous principal's office multi-billionaire

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: spectacular frisky striped hyena

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Pea-brained titillating hospital trust fund

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Adventurous partner people who are hurt

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: spectacular frisky striped hyena

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Adventurous partner people who are hurt

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: irradiated temple

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: hairraiser chest-beating persian

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Adventurous partner people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Apoplectic puppy

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: spectacular frisky striped hyena

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: floppy point sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Adventurous partner people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Pea-brained titillating hospital trust fund

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: hairraiser chest-beating persian

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Avocado Big Yarmulke Idea He Suggested

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: irradiated temple

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Dun thriller bawdyhouse

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: puce maniacal new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: irradiated temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053817)