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The dam collapse screws Russian agriculture, not just in Crimea - link
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:12 AM Author: stubborn crusty resort telephone This rich agricultural land they conquered depends on irrigation from the dam. That's gone now. Makes me think the negligent failure of the dam is the most likely explanation. If it was intentional, it was a very short-sighted panic move on the part of military leaders scared of the Ukrainian offensive.
https://twitter.com/TomGiuretis/status/1666062460967690240 |
Date: June 6th, 2023 10:14 AM Author: stubborn crusty resort telephone https://twitter.com/TomGiuretis/status/1666062463677132802 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351184&forum_id=2#46394750) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:15 AM Author: heady cordovan stage God u hohol morons u think everyone will fall for ur joo propoganda (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351184&forum_id=2#46394753) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:17 AM Author: stubborn crusty resort telephone You're right- I'm sure he forged that 1930s postage stamp showing the areas which benefit from the dam under current Russian control. My bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351184&forum_id=2#46394760) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:16 AM Author: mildly autistic naked immigrant old irish cottage Also screws Ukrainian agriculture around Krivy Rig. 800 sq miles of land were irrigated by that reservoir there.
Wonder if this will cause wheat prices to go up again. |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:18 AM Author: stubborn crusty resort telephone True, that's the Ukrainian hit, but it's far smaller than the Russian area affected. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351184&forum_id=2#46394765) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:17 AM Author: Bistre Mind-boggling Candlestick Maker Personally I think Ukraine blew the dam and I’m ok with that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351184&forum_id=2#46394764) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:19 AM Author: mildly autistic naked immigrant old irish cottage Doubt either side did it intentionally. It hurts the Ukies too. They need the electricity produced by the dam and nuclear plant. And they needed the water too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351184&forum_id=2#46394770) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:29 AM Author: Bistre Mind-boggling Candlestick Maker this is the start of their counter-offensive
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1666079599376363521?s=46&t=jKXH7m3p0jeKr--GrDZGug |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:24 AM Author: Greedy set halford looks like there was some shit falling apart in the last few days - https://twitter.com/evanhill/status/1665933276647772160?s=20 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351184&forum_id=2#46394786) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:31 AM Author: Bistre Mind-boggling Candlestick Maker not an accident
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1666079599376363521?s=46&t=jKXH7m3p0jeKr--GrDZGug |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:33 AM Author: Ruby mischievous mediation stead based on prior conduct, I can't see Ukraine doing this. I agree with our boy Dmitri (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351184&forum_id=2#46394822) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:35 AM Author: stubborn crusty resort telephone That's just his opinion, and the collapse is a few days after deterioration of the dam first became visible on satellite AND it coincides with the record high water levels in the reservoir.
Record high water levels + dam already visibly starting to come apart is a lot more persuasive to me than what that tweet says. |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:45 AM Author: mildly autistic naked immigrant old irish cottage It could be a combo. Dam was deteriorated to the point where relatively light shelling tied to the counteroffensive broke the camel's back. Shelling that normally would have done cosmetic damage only. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351184&forum_id=2#46394844) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:51 AM Author: Greedy set halford The water level supports both theories https://twitter.com/aborealis940/status/1666009876810678272?s=20 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351184&forum_id=2#46394864) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 12:35 PM Author: dashing school Ukraine had already bombed the dam many times. The sections it aimed for were right next to the section that was damaged most recently. I don't know how you can bomb a dam multiple times over a period of months and expect people to believe you didn't cause it to fail, but that's what Ukraine has to do now. All they can really do is shout you down at this point since all signs point to them being at fault. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351184&forum_id=2#46395287) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:22 AM Author: stubborn crusty resort telephone OTOH, this does reduce Ukraine's economic incentive to recapture the territory they lost. I guess that makes it more likely they will eventually conclude "fuck it, just let Russia keep the land east of the Dnieper and let's move on." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351184&forum_id=2#46394778) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:42 AM Author: mildly autistic naked immigrant old irish cottage If they only cared about economics they would've accepted becoming a client state of the Russians like Chechnya did. They have a higher nationalist ideal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351184&forum_id=2#46394837) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:30 AM Author: stubborn crusty resort telephone LOL:
https://twitter.com/mdfzeh/status/1666072722844024833
Though this only really applies to the lower, Russian side of Kherson. |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 10:56 AM Author: Ruby mischievous mediation stead Same song different dance.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnieper_Hydroelectric_Station
During World War II, the strategically important dam and plant was dynamited by retreating Red Army troops in 1941 after Germany's invasion of the Soviet Union. American journalist H. R. Knickerbocker wrote that year:[7]
The Russians have proved now by their destruction of the great dam at Dniepropetrovsk that they mean truly to scorch the earth before Hitler even if it means the destruction of their most precious possessions ... Dnieprostroy was an object almost of worship to the Soviet people. Its destruction demonstrates a will to resist which surpasses anything we had imagined. I know what that dam meant to the Bolsheviks ... It was the largest, most spectacular, and most popular of all the immense projects of the First Five-Year Plan ... The Dnieper Dam when it was built was the biggest on earth and so it occupied a place in the imagination and affection of the Soviet people difficult for us to realize ... Stalin's order to destroy it meant more to the Russians emotionally than it would mean to us for Roosevelt to order the destruction of the Panama Canal.
The flooding surge killed 20,000 to over 100,000 unsuspecting civilians, as well as Red Army officers who were crossing over the river.[8] It was partially dynamited again by retreating German troops in 1943.[citation needed] In the end, the dam suffered extensive damage, and the powerhouse hall was nearly destroyed. Both were rebuilt between 1944 and 1949.
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Date: June 6th, 2023 12:02 PM Author: stubborn crusty resort telephone https://twitter.com/Charlesrei1/status/1666041899432411136 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351184&forum_id=2#46395146) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 12:04 PM Author: Fishy ratface All Ukrainians will die. Then Russia starts on Westerners. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351184&forum_id=2#46395154) |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 12:04 PM Author: Galvanic Infuriating Library To be fair,
IMO, the collapse of this massive dam in Ukraine is terrible news... FOR RUSSIA!!!! |
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Date: June 6th, 2023 12:05 PM Author: Histrionic Beta Reading Party Whorehouse Russia blew up the dam just like they blew up the Nordstream pipeline. Ukraine is winning. Sorry, russiacucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5351184&forum_id=2#46395158) |